14:00:01 <whoami-rajat> #startmeeting cinder
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14:00:03 <whoami-rajat> #topic roll call
14:00:08 <eharney> hi
14:00:21 <jungleboyj> o/
14:00:33 <rosmaita> o/
14:00:47 <aneeeshp1> hi
14:00:51 <mubeen> hi
14:01:02 <ganso> hello
14:01:48 <abdi> hi
14:02:11 <whoami-rajat> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-antelope-meetings
14:03:28 <whoami-rajat> Welcome everyone back after the PTG
14:03:44 <whoami-rajat> it was a good week of useful discussions
14:03:52 <whoami-rajat> and that is related to my first announcement
14:03:56 <whoami-rajat> #topic announcements
14:04:05 <whoami-rajat> PTG Summary
14:04:14 <whoami-rajat> #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-November/031049.html
14:04:21 <whoami-rajat> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderAntelopePTGSummary
14:04:39 <whoami-rajat> I've created a summary of all the topics we've discussed with links to the etherpad and recordings
14:05:03 <whoami-rajat> to all the people who couldn't make it to the PTG, they can watch the sessions they're interested in
14:05:35 <whoami-rajat> (since i don't expect anyone watching 16 hours of video meeting)
14:05:56 <whoami-rajat> moving on
14:05:58 <jungleboyj> Did I get all the recordings posted?
14:05:59 <whoami-rajat> next, Antelope schedule
14:06:10 <whoami-rajat> jungleboyj, yes, as far as i checked
14:06:18 <whoami-rajat> jungleboyj, thank you for uploading them!
14:06:29 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Good.  Just wanted to make sure I was caught up.
14:07:10 <whoami-rajat> I calculated the total time of all the parts of a particular day and they added up to 3-4 hours so it looks good
14:07:25 <jungleboyj> Great!
14:07:43 <whoami-rajat> ok moving on then
14:07:44 <whoami-rajat> next, Antelope schedule
14:07:51 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/862815
14:07:58 <whoami-rajat> #link https://storage.gra.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_8dd/862815/1/check/openstack-tox-docs/8ddc61d/docs/antelope/schedule.html
14:08:24 <whoami-rajat> please check the second link above ^ it contains the cinder specific cycle schedule of antelope
14:08:42 <whoami-rajat> the idea is to check for dates of deadlines and see if it has any conflicts
14:08:59 <whoami-rajat> I've moved some deadlines since they overlap with the year end break
14:09:19 <whoami-rajat> but more eyes on it would be useful
14:09:37 <whoami-rajat> look in the "Project-specific events" column
14:12:11 <jungleboyj> One thing I see is that the Mid Cycle is the week after Thanksgiving.  Not sure if anyone is planning to be out the week after ...
14:12:18 <rosmaita> midcycle-1 date looks good, but midcycle-2 may be a holiday in Brazil ... i think most of our netapp people are there?
14:12:37 <jungleboyj> rosmaita:  ++
14:13:14 <whoami-rajat> ack, this cycle is short so we've only so much weeks spare that the deadlines don't overlap
14:13:26 <whoami-rajat> but good feedback, maybe we can move it one week before or after
14:13:58 <jungleboyj> Looking at things I think the Mid-Cycle 1 is probably best where it is before we get into December.
14:14:12 <whoami-rajat> i will remove midcycle 2 from my current review and we can decide later on the date
14:14:34 <whoami-rajat> jungleboyj, yep, tried to keep it before the year end holidays
14:15:02 <jungleboyj> ++ and most people do vacation before Thanksgiving if they are going to take extra time off.
14:15:06 <whoami-rajat> and it will be a good checkpoint for spec reviews and status
14:15:35 <whoami-rajat> ack, good feedback, will keep in mind
14:16:05 <whoami-rajat> if you remember some more conflicts later, please leave a comment on my proposed patch
14:16:06 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/862815
14:17:49 <whoami-rajat> guess we can move on with the final announcement
14:18:00 <whoami-rajat> Wallaby moving to EM
14:18:23 <whoami-rajat> there is a patch proposed in releases project to move wallaby into EM
14:18:25 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/862313
14:18:30 <whoami-rajat> actually there is a patch for every project
14:19:04 <whoami-rajat> since Jon had a patch to release wallaby, it seemed like a good idea to get that one done first before moving into EM
14:19:10 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/848842
14:19:27 <whoami-rajat> so this will be the final wallaby release and after that we wallaby will be moved to EM
14:20:24 <whoami-rajat> that's all the announcements from my side
14:20:27 <whoami-rajat> anyone has anything else?
14:21:34 <whoami-rajat> guess not, so we can move to the next segment
14:21:39 <whoami-rajat> #topic PTG Follow-up
14:21:47 <whoami-rajat> rosmaita, i think you added it?
14:22:17 <rosmaita> yeah, just wanted to say i did send in the revised user survey questions
14:22:39 <rosmaita> the other thing is the 'service' role
14:22:59 <rosmaita> the policy-pop-up team wants to get it implemented by M-1
14:23:02 <whoami-rajat> yep, thanks for following up on that and mentioning it in the etherpad, I've added that in the PTG summary as well - DONE
14:23:04 <rosmaita> which is coming up fast
14:23:33 <rosmaita> the spec hasn't been approved yet, so if you have any interest, might be worth leaving a +1 to help push it along
14:23:41 <rosmaita> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/keystone-specs/+/818616
14:24:12 <rosmaita> abhishek from the glance team has volunteered to implement it
14:24:24 <rosmaita> so it's really a matter at this point to get the spec approved
14:24:51 <whoami-rajat> rosmaita, the assignee is still mentioned as lbragstad, would be good if Abhishek takes a look and revises it
14:25:07 <rosmaita> good point
14:25:29 <rosmaita> i'll mention it on the glance agenda for tomorrow
14:25:43 <whoami-rajat> ack
14:25:44 <whoami-rajat> i think reviewing the spec would be good to understand more about how/where to use it, I will take a look
14:27:12 <rosmaita> that's all from me
14:27:29 <whoami-rajat> great, thanks for bringing it up
14:27:36 <whoami-rajat> moving on to next topic
14:27:42 <whoami-rajat> #topic Outreachy update
14:27:53 <whoami-rajat> is Sofia around?
14:28:19 <eharney> i think not
14:28:23 <whoami-rajat> can't find her with nick
14:28:24 <whoami-rajat> ok
14:28:46 <whoami-rajat> Since I'm co-mentoring with her, i can take this topic
14:29:13 <whoami-rajat> this friday is the deadline for proposing the first patch and then an outreachy candidate can be considered for internship
14:29:29 <whoami-rajat> we haven't seen much contribution but one contributor has been actively working on a patch
14:29:43 <whoami-rajat> and it is related to our outreachy intern project as well
14:29:51 <whoami-rajat> so would be good to keep some eyes on
14:29:53 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/861491
14:31:20 <whoami-rajat> i think that's all she wanted to mention
14:31:28 <whoami-rajat> let's move to the next topic
14:31:30 <whoami-rajat> #topic EOL-ing older stable branches
14:31:34 <whoami-rajat> rosmaita, that's you again
14:31:58 <rosmaita> yeah, there has been some discussion on the ML
14:32:10 <rosmaita> the release team wants to EOL Queens across all projects
14:32:33 <rosmaita> nova and ironic (and maybe neutron?) want to EOL rocky and stein as well
14:32:53 <rosmaita> so i was wondering if we would want to also EOL rocky and stein
14:33:16 <rosmaita> so to be clear about what this means
14:33:36 <rosmaita> each branch will be tagged with an -eol tag, and then the stable branch will be deleted
14:33:46 <rosmaita> so no one can propose changes to it
14:33:58 <rosmaita> but, if someone needs it for some reason, they can check out the git tag
14:34:39 <rosmaita> the reason for us to stay in sync with nova is that if we run into problems in stable/rocky or stable/stein tempest tests, they won't be fixing anything
14:34:54 <rosmaita> so we might have to EOL at that point, anyway
14:35:04 <rosmaita> this way, we just get the branches out of our lives right now
14:35:22 <rosmaita> ... and i will shut up and see if anyone wants to say anything
14:35:53 <whoami-rajat> I think I'm OK with this change since i don't even see people proposing backports after train
14:36:10 <whoami-rajat> even maintaining CI on these branches is extra burden for us
14:36:45 <rosmaita> yeah, there hasn't been much action on those branches at all recently
14:38:08 <rosmaita> train is the last branch that supports python 2.7 iirc, so if there's some kind of security fix needed, it would be py27 compatible, and people could backport it themselves from train to whatever locally
14:38:23 <whoami-rajat> maybe Jon would have some feedback since he's our release maintainer but not sure
14:38:25 <jungleboyj> I support doing this.  :-)
14:38:51 <whoami-rajat> anyway, I'm in favor of it
14:39:07 <rosmaita> (just checked, i am correct about py27 on train: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/runtimes/train.html )
14:39:52 <abdi> rosmaita: If i may ask.  From a third party cinder CI maintainer perspective.  What would be the impact? I don't suspect any but thought I'd ask.
14:41:06 <rosmaita> well, we don't require third-party CI on the stable branches, just a statement on any backport patches that you have tested it on the stable branch and it's ok
14:41:25 <rosmaita> so i don't think there's much impact for CI
14:41:29 <abdi> Sounds good.
14:42:07 <rosmaita> but if you have customers on any of those old releases, you'll have to fix them privately
14:42:32 <rosmaita> because there won't be an upstream branch to merge the changes to
14:42:57 <rosmaita> whoami-rajat: maybe ask jon to send something to the ML and see if there are any objections?
14:43:05 <rosmaita> he can use the nova email as a model
14:43:12 <abdi> Understood.  In such cases, we have a strong case to get them to upgrade.
14:43:21 <rosmaita> abdi: exactly!
14:43:28 <jungleboyj> ++
14:43:34 <whoami-rajat> rosmaita, sure, will do
14:44:09 <rosmaita> sounds like all of us here are in favor
14:44:43 <whoami-rajat> +1
14:45:03 <jungleboyj> No concerns from me.  Most of the people I have heard of are  on Train as the oldest release.
14:47:10 <whoami-rajat> rosmaita, anything else on this?
14:47:19 <rosmaita> nothing from me
14:47:32 <whoami-rajat> cool, let's move to the next few topics there
14:47:35 <rosmaita> (sorry, sort of left you hanging there)
14:47:39 <whoami-rajat> there are a bunch of review requests
14:47:42 <whoami-rajat> oh no problem
14:47:55 <whoami-rajat> #topic request for review of https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/812685
14:48:09 <whoami-rajat> ganso, anything you would like to say about it apart from requesting reviews?
14:48:17 <whoami-rajat> I've reviewed it btw
14:48:23 <ganso> whoami-rajat: no, not really
14:48:30 <ganso> just that we've been waiting for this fix for a while
14:48:36 <ganso> I see no reason to delay it further
14:48:46 <ganso> it would be nice to have some attention
14:49:06 <whoami-rajat> yeah, glance is kind of moving towards multi store and we will start seeing these failures more often
14:49:11 <ganso> if there is anything pending, please post to the gerrit patch, like test-coverage, improvements,e tc
14:49:52 <whoami-rajat> rosmaita, maybe you could take a look from glance perpspective? ^
14:49:57 <whoami-rajat> perspective
14:50:00 <ganso> whoami-rajat: thanks for reviewing =)
14:50:01 <rosmaita> ganso: i will review today
14:50:16 <whoami-rajat> great, thanks ganso and rosmaita
14:50:22 <rosmaita> i think i did the nova patch it's based on
14:50:41 <whoami-rajat> then this would be familiar code changes, there are a bunch of things i don't understand
14:50:48 <whoami-rajat> would be good to get some clarity on them
14:51:02 <rosmaita> ok
14:51:34 <whoami-rajat> cool, moving on to the next review request
14:51:41 <whoami-rajat> #topic Request for review of https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/815582
14:51:54 <whoami-rajat> abdi, i see it's introducing a new HPE driver, anything you would like to say about it?
14:51:55 <abdi> This one is mine.
14:51:59 <abdi> Yes.
14:52:13 <whoami-rajat> cool, stage is yours
14:53:01 <abdi> The iSCSI tests consistently run into 2 volume swap test failures.  We believe to have root caused it to a potential race condition between os-brick and nova.
14:53:14 <abdi> So, I'd like to get a review and acceptance of the driver.
14:54:10 <abdi> The bug in question #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1989232.
14:54:49 <whoami-rajat> ack, we target all drivers for M2, would be a good discussion topic for midcycle 1 as well
14:55:43 <abdi> Ok.  I'd love to get an early accept on this so I don't worry about it making it into the next release.
14:56:26 <whoami-rajat> yes, will try to do that
14:56:35 <whoami-rajat> abdi, anything else on this?
14:56:49 <abdi> rosmaita: There are a few comments on the patch it would be good for you to resolve after you've reviewed my comments.
14:57:25 <abdi> Other than that.  Nothing else from me.
14:57:37 <abdi> I'll monitor the patch for your acceptance.  Thanks.
14:57:54 <whoami-rajat> ack, great
14:57:56 <whoami-rajat> let's quickly go over the last review request
14:58:05 <whoami-rajat> #topic Request for review of https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/849143
14:58:08 <whoami-rajat> aneeeshp1, that's you
14:58:12 <rosmaita> abdi: ack
14:58:15 <aneeeshp1> Hi all
14:58:28 <aneeeshp1> Yes. i have addressed the comments received
14:58:29 <abdi> rosmaita: Thx.
14:58:35 <aneeeshp1> Thank you for reviewing
14:58:49 <aneeeshp1> Ci setup is now running and the driver passed tempest
14:59:04 <aneeeshp1> I would like to request further review on the patch
14:59:31 <whoami-rajat> i remember there were CI issues due to which it couldn't get into Zed, good to know things are good now
14:59:37 <aneeeshp1> Just to get it reviewed earlier to avoid missing the next release
14:59:54 <aneeeshp1> whoami-rajat yes the CI is up now
15:00:35 <aneeeshp1> Nothing else from me other than this request
15:00:42 <whoami-rajat> aneeeshp1, great, I will review and keep an eye on it
15:00:48 <whoami-rajat> and we're out of time
15:00:53 <aneeeshp1> whoami-rajat thank you
15:00:54 <whoami-rajat> thanks everyone for joining!
15:00:57 <whoami-rajat> #endmeeting