14:00:07 #startmeeting cinder 14:00:09 Meeting started Wed Jun 10 14:00:07 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:13 The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' 14:00:24 #topic roll call 14:00:26 Hi 14:00:33 hi 14:00:49 hi 14:00:52 hi 14:01:06 hi 14:01:10 hi 14:01:13 o/ 14:01:16 hi 14:01:18 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ 14:01:44 Hello everyone! good turnout 14:01:45 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-victoria-meetings 14:02:23 o/ 14:02:34 * lseki why is jungleboyj so mad? 14:02:39 i just got back from the eye doctor, had my eyes dilated, and between the LEDs in my keyboard and the computer screen, i am practically blinded by all the light 14:02:47 He has anger issues. :D 14:02:49 so my typing will be slower than usual 14:02:58 but luckily it's a light agenda 14:03:09 Har har 14:03:10 ¯\(◉‿◉)/¯ 14:03:11 #topic updates - PTG summary available 14:03:24 jungleboyj: thanks, i needed that 14:03:48 You are welcome. Any time. 14:03:52 well, i had it open somewhere 14:03:57 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderVictoriaPTGSummary 14:04:16 ok, so for anyone who missed the excitement last week, there are recordings you can watch! 14:04:25 also brief summaries 14:04:46 anyone who led a session, please read & clarify my description of what i thought we discussed 14:05:07 my topics are well covered rosmaita++ 14:05:17 great, ty 14:05:26 #topic updates -victoria schedule 14:05:35 the cinder specific events have merged 14:05:46 #link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html 14:05:54 all driver maintainers 14:06:04 there's a new event for you this cycle 14:06:26 o/ 14:06:32 #link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html#v-cinder-driver-features-declaration 14:06:44 make sure you read that and let me know if you have any questions 14:06:55 #topic updates - checkpoints 14:07:04 this cycle is moving along quickly! 14:07:13 It's a shorter one. 14:07:19 this week is R-18, so 18 weeks away from release 14:07:28 milestone 1 is at R-17 14:07:37 that is, next week! 14:07:43 Yeah, September will be here before we know it. 14:08:08 anyway, at the virtual PTG, people expressed interest in doing 2 midcycles like we did last cycle 14:08:42 so I'm proposing R-8, which is the week of the new feature status checkpoint for part 2 14:08:58 so it makes sense to have part 1 at R-16 14:09:07 which is really soon! 14:09:17 but the spec freeze is R-15 14:09:41 so i think it would be good to have a virtual meeting the week before in case people have questions about their specs 14:09:50 R-16 is next to next week? 14:09:55 yep 14:10:11 it will be nice to see all your smiling faces so soon again 14:10:18 :) 14:11:08 anyway, my main question about this is: is anyone aware of major conflicts with either R-16 (June 22-26) or R-8 (August 17-21) 14:12:06 He he. We won't be at a big conference either of those weeks. 14:12:28 yeah, i guess no one will be anywhere other than home 14:12:30 kubecon europe virtual event aug 17-20 14:12:49 Ah, virtual events. :-) 14:13:04 i imagine we may have some overlap with kubecon? 14:13:19 Quite likely. 14:14:13 ok,, maybe let's try the week before? anyone aware of anything happening the week of Aug 10 - Aug 14 14:14:33 geguileo: btw, victoria cinderlib must be released by ^^ 14:16:05 ok, i will put out a poll for the day/time for midcycle part 1 14:16:29 in the meantime, people can check their calendars about Aug 10 - Aug 14 for part 2 14:17:13 #action rosmaita - poll for day/time of midcycle part 1 during R-16 week 14:17:49 #topic updates - priorities for Milestone-1 14:18:01 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/victoria 14:18:13 i'll give you a minute to open that link 14:18:43 no surprises there except maybe for the fact that it's NEXT WEEK!!! 14:19:02 so i expect there to be some slippage 14:19:26 but please prioritize reviews on these items 14:19:52 also, two of those are unassigned for anyone who wants to pick up a quick deprecation to get out of the way 14:20:17 the rbd one ... not sure how complex, but the os-reset-status should be pretty straightforward 14:20:36 if you decide to pick one up, please assign yourself so that we don't duplicate efforts 14:21:59 About the NFS encryption patch, reviews needed :P I think the idea is to merge this first: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/732506/ 14:22:05 OK, that is all for updates -- anyone have anything they'd like to announce? 14:22:12 rosmaita, i think we should also add geguileo default volume type BP 14:22:33 not for M-1 14:22:49 the spec now is soooo much simpler O:-) 14:23:02 enriquetaso: since that's a glance thing, do not worry about https://review.opendev.org/#/c/732506/ 14:23:24 i dont' want to give cinder people a reason to postpone looking at the cinder part 14:23:39 i'll make clear at the glance meeting tomorrow that we are going ahead with the cinder side 14:23:51 and they need to move faster on the glance_store change 14:24:22 makes sense, it's already there for over a week now 14:24:47 yeah, we had a long discussion about it at some point, can't rememeber whether it was before or during the ptg 14:25:01 OK rosmaita, I'll remove the -1 in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/597148/ then 14:25:15 enriquetaso: please do ... thanks 14:25:48 It's ready now :) 14:26:03 great! everyone, please do enriquetaso a solid and take a look! 14:26:25 thanks whoami-rajat and rosmaita for the discussing it w glance team during PTG 14:26:30 #topic suggestion to hold a monthly virtual videoconf meeting 14:26:37 np 14:26:56 ok, we don't need to do it this month because we'll be having the virtual midcycle in 2 weeks! 14:27:29 but there was a suggestion on the PTG etherpad with a bunch of +1s that we hold a monthly virtual meetup 14:27:30 videoconf++ 14:27:52 +1 14:27:53 videoconf++ 14:27:57 +1 14:27:59 what i want to do today is find out what kind of meeting we want 14:28:01 +1 14:28:02 +1 14:28:10 looking like everyone likes this 14:28:13 but what i mean is 14:28:21 virtual happy hour+ 14:28:25 do we want an informal talk about stuff meeting 14:28:31 or an actual cinder meeting 14:28:35 i am asking because 14:29:07 someone from another project mentioned that virtual videoconf meetings can be tough on non-native english speakers 14:29:16 especially late in the day local time 14:29:25 Yeah, we had that discussion in the TC meeting. 14:29:48 jungleboyj: what was the general feeling? 14:30:12 That it was fine to add a video conference meeting but it shouldn't replace the IRC meetings. 14:30:29 ok, that 14:30:34 s what i am thinking too 14:30:52 so one possibility is have 1/2 hour irc and 1/2 hour video once a month 14:31:04 or have a separate happy-hour kind of meeting once a month 14:31:25 because we do have the 2 midcycle videoconf for face-to-face kind of design stuff 14:32:13 any thoughts? 14:32:26 1/2 hour meeting doesn't sound good to me 14:32:46 Yeah, I don't know that that would work very well. 14:33:00 I think we can do a full meeting once a month on video and have the IRC as a supporting tool 14:33:01 ok, i'm happy to be down voted on that suggestion 14:33:11 so people not confortable talking can just write it on IRC 14:33:33 geguileo++ 14:33:35 geguileo: +1 14:33:48 yes, I can only know 20% of what is speaking 14:34:15 ok, so we can commit to being good about typing in IRC as we are having the meeting 14:34:51 I am ok with that if others agree. 14:34:52 geguileo: ++ 14:34:54 i was going to say we could use meetpad, but that apparently roasts the CPUs on some systems 14:35:04 Yep. 14:35:47 i think i'll send a poll out to the ML in case people not here have strong opinions, or in case someone has second thoughts 14:35:52 https://gph.is/1vOCl8h 14:35:52 but i like geguileo's idea 14:36:31 we can meet in (probably blue jeans) but take notes in IRC as usual 14:36:52 ok, thanks ... any other comments on this topic? 14:36:56 ++ 14:37:04 ++ 14:37:26 using a video solution that works in most web browsers would be ideal 14:37:36 #action rosmaita poll about video meeting 14:37:51 is anyone aware of something like eharney has mentioned? 14:38:20 i imagine google meeting or hangout or whatever they call it these days is inaccessible in some countries 14:38:35 and meetpad in firefox is apparently a disaster 14:39:01 nova use zoom in ptg 14:39:18 can you use zoom without downloading anything? 14:39:24 i think zoom doesn't work in firefox iirc 14:39:31 There is a web client. 14:39:41 the zoom app i downloaded was a big problem for me -- whenever someone shared their screen my system locked up 14:39:43 rosmaita, is the meetpad problem only in firefox? we can use chromium if it's browser specific 14:39:53 Oh no. 14:40:02 Jitsi is supposed to be much better on chromium. 14:40:07 when open the url, seems it will automatically install a plugin 14:40:27 LiangFang: Which one? Zoom? 14:40:40 Google meet is now free but I am guessing that it doesn't work in China. 14:40:43 yes, seems like that 14:41:04 If you cancel the prompt something like 3-4 times, then it's smart enough to fall back to a webrtc client. But it's not intuitive. I don't think they really advertise that. 14:41:21 LiangFang: did you have any success with jitsi/meetpad 14:41:56 smcginnis: like an idiot, i assumed that installing the app would give me a better overall zoom experience 14:42:13 i was sadly mistaken on Fedora 32, anyway 14:42:14 rosmaita: I would have assumed the same. 14:42:22 rosmaita: not tried yet, we use lync inside and zoom outside normally 14:42:32 It has worked well for me on Fedora 31. Just upgraded to 32, so not much experience there yet. 14:42:44 watch out! 14:43:05 i am on a lenovo P50 14:43:05 it worked for me on F32 (but on Xorg, I haven't tried Wayland) 14:43:43 ok, well if i am the only zoom casualty, i can try smcginnis's suggestion 14:44:04 would be helpful actually because everyone seems to want to zoom these days 14:44:55 just want to verify -- am i the only anti-zoom person? 14:45:16 I would prefer meetpad if it's an option, but I'm on zoom calls all day anyway, so either works for me. 14:45:32 Bluejeans seemed to work well too. 14:46:14 I am ok with any of them. 14:46:15 ok, i will include a question ranking zoom, meetpad, and bluejeans on the virtual meeting once a month poll 14:46:52 #action rosmaita virtual meeting poll - format proposed by geguileo, technology question 14:47:02 ok, thanks for that discussion 14:47:08 #topic open discussion 14:47:36 oh yeah, i forgot to mention 14:47:48 there are some ACTIONs on the PTG summary 14:47:56 make sure you look to see if you have one 14:48:13 what reminded me is that I personally have a lot, and i need to get working! 14:48:35 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderVictoriaPTGSummary 14:49:18 would like to get review on this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/732525/ . the previous patch doesn't work (sorry about that). this i've verified and works. 14:49:36 rosmaita: Good summary. Thanks! 14:50:26 whoami-rajat: do you have a test to catch the not-working? 14:51:22 rosmaita, don't think so, i think i can update the patch with a test 14:51:26 would be better 14:51:38 whoami-rajat: that would be great, would set a good example :D 14:52:01 also, since i approved the broken patch, i would like to see what i missed! 14:52:22 yeah, it's a stupid mistake 14:52:33 and also i missed there can be multiple attachments 14:52:59 yeah, i should have realized that too 14:54:12 rosmaita: I have a tiny patch mostly for you, in order to watch devstack-plugin-{ceph,nfs} changes here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/734792/ (not sure they require the PTL approval, but still) 14:54:34 tosky: i am flattered! 14:54:55 nice 14:55:16 i will have one for you, hopefully later today -- want to set up a "tips" job, cinder against os-brick master 14:55:56 rosmaita: I think we cover that the other way around. An os-brick job that runs against cinder. 14:56:27 smcginnis: you are probably right 14:57:37 yeah, that makes sense .. key thing is to catch a brick change that breaks cinder before we cut a brick release 14:58:19 two minutes ... anything else? 14:59:50 hope can take a look of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/663549/ 15:00:06 ok, thanks everyone! 15:00:09 #endmeeting