16:00:15 #startmeeting cinder 16:00:15 Meeting started Wed Oct 30 16:00:15 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:17 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:17 hi 16:00:19 The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' 16:00:22 o/ 16:00:22 hi 16:00:22 o/ 16:00:25 o/ 16:00:34 hi 16:00:34 Hi 16:00:44 welcome anastzhyr 16:00:56 welcome anastzhyr 16:01:02 anastzhyr is an outreachy intern working on cinder 16:01:14 being mentored by enriquetaso 16:01:16 Hey anastzhyr! 16:01:29 Welcome anastzhyr 16:01:38 Hello everyone once again :) 16:01:47 please keep an eye on anastzhyr 's patches this week 16:02:12 hi! 16:02:21 light agenda today, so i'll wait another minute 16:02:32 though it looks like we have good attendance today 16:03:14 ok, that's about a minute 16:03:20 hi 16:03:24 #topic updates 16:03:38 o/ 16:03:38 first item, no meeting next week due to the PTG 16:04:14 second item, about how our PTG sessions will go 16:04:39 i'm planning to do what jungleboyj did and just go through the topics giving them as much or little time as they need 16:04:45 and keeping notes on the etherpad 16:05:00 i'll have a rough ordering ready before friday this week 16:05:17 I think that has worked well. 16:05:18 right now, there are a few topics that will have a definite start time so we can coordinate things 16:05:28 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/shanghai-ptg-cinder 16:05:34 rosmaita: Do we have a nova-cinder session planned? 16:05:57 no, we don't 16:06:34 is there anything in particular we want to discuss with them? 16:06:43 I'm not sure if we have much we need to coordinate with them at this point. I think we've worked through most things like multiattach. 16:06:53 that was my impression too 16:07:13 also, i think this is going to be a bit informal -- we're mostly all in one big room at different tables 16:07:14 rosmaita: I think I added one topic to the etherpad 16:07:25 rosmaita: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ussuri-ptg-planning 16:07:28 rosmaita: L71 16:07:30 i see -improve replication 16:07:35 yup 16:07:53 What was that? Remove replication? Sounds good. 16:07:54 :P 16:07:58 rofl rofl 16:08:12 ok, eric fried sent out a message about cross project discussion, i will follow up with him 16:08:31 #action rosmaita follow up with nova team about ptg session on improving replication 16:08:40 rosmaita: thanks! 16:08:49 np, thanks for the reminder 16:08:59 ok, just a few things about the schedule 16:09:30 wednesday is cross-project day, so you're free to go meet whatever teams interest you 16:09:42 thursday we start at 9:00 with onboarding 16:09:52 it's going to be a bit weird, there's no projector or anything 16:10:13 rosmaita: I can bring my portable projector 16:10:20 but, the expectation is that people who've been through the upstream institute will come meet groups they are interested in 16:10:29 rosmaita: we just need to be close-ish to a wall 16:10:45 geguileo: yeah, i don't know anything about the layout of the room other than we are at table "A" 16:10:57 A for Awesome? 16:10:59 sounds good 16:11:03 :) 16:11:06 Jay had a Forum session to get feedback on using volume types. He realized he has a schedule conflict for that, so he roped me in right before taking off to China this morning. Whoever else can join and help with that, it would be appreciated. 16:11:07 A for "Austin" 16:11:13 We are supposed to have flip charts. 16:11:21 Could project on that in a pinch. 16:11:42 smcginnis: thanks for the reminder, i will put the forum sessions on our etherpad 16:11:44 Not sure if there are any union type rules that would prevent us from hooking up a projector though. 16:11:50 rosmaita: Thanks! 16:12:34 smcginnis: I'll bring it just in case 16:12:35 geguileo: jungleboyj is running the upstream institute right before the summit, so he can probably snag us a projector if it will work 16:12:48 geguileo: up to you 16:13:39 ok, so my real point here is that even though 9:00-9:45 is "onboarding", all the cinder people should be there anyway because part of the idea is that new people can meet the team they will be working with 16:14:07 the only other scheduled topic ATM is meeting with the edge working group 16:14:14 thursday, right after lunch 16:14:47 also, team dinner on thursday 16:14:54 is there anyone from shanghai here now? 16:15:39 guess not 16:16:00 i'll follow up with Liang Fang, who i'm pretty sure works out of shanghai 16:16:20 i got a recommendation for a restaurant, but we will have to make a reservation 16:17:22 rosmaita: Is the team dinner info on an etherpad or something? Where do you want to try to get a headcount? 16:17:22 ok, i will follow up on that and send out something to the ML so other peopel in shanghai can join us 16:17:44 smcginnis: just added it at the top of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/shanghai-ptg-cinder 16:17:50 +1 16:18:21 rosmaita: Are we signed up for a team photo? 16:18:35 yes, at 10:50 on thursday 16:18:43 Ah, now I see it. 16:18:51 yeah, i forgot to point that out 16:19:35 ok, so keep an eye on the etherpad for more info as it becomes available 16:20:09 i will fill it in with topics from the planning etherpad, and some follow up from the train midcycle 16:20:15 should give us a full day and a half 16:20:28 i'm planning to finish before lunch on friday 16:20:53 the table will still be available until 4:30 pm for anyone who wants to stick around and have a cinder hackfest 16:21:26 i think that's all the updates 16:21:37 ok, no formal next topic 16:21:41 #topic open discussion 16:21:43 I've heard there is no staying late though. As soon as the scheduled time is up - time to get out. 16:21:59 hey 16:21:59 yes, that's what I've heard too 16:22:20 As rosmaita already mentioned. We have an outreachy candidate. Outreachy deadline is morning - 5th of Nov. Feel free to review anastzhyr 's patchs https://review.opendev.org/#/q/owner:%22Anastasiya+Zhyrkevich%22+status:open ! 16:22:34 rosmaita, there was a discussion regarding meeting time change last week, is there an update on the same? 16:23:44 enriquetaso: thanks for the reminder -- everyone, it's important that anastzhyr gets some code merged this week -- i'm not saying just approve it, but we need to review expeditiously so that she can revise as necessary 16:24:02 enriquetaso: thank you for making my visibility. I would be happy to dive into more low-hanging-fruit tasks to understand cinder deeper. If you have anything on mind, please let me know 16:24:10 whoami-rajat__: i did not see any reply on the ML when i checked this morning 16:24:31 :D 16:24:42 so i guess my update is: if you have a strong feeling about moving the meeting time or leaving it where it is, please respond to that thread! 16:25:09 also, i did not see any replies to my request for info about closing some branches 16:25:17 rosmaita, is poll an option for better response ? 16:25:59 whoami-rajat__: i don't know -- there aren't a lot of choices 16:26:04 same day for sure 16:26:19 either 1 hour earlier, 2 hours earlier, or stay the same 16:26:34 but do people think i'd get more responses with a poll? 16:27:01 i guess whoami-rajat__ is right ... apparently asking for a response on the thread has not worked 16:27:10 That may be useful. 16:27:26 SurveyMonkey or CIVS poll. 16:27:48 the only reason i'm hesitating is that i wanted to weigh people who definitely attend more heavily 16:27:50 at least it would show how many people care or don't care if it's moved 16:28:15 we have 2 silicon valley time zone people who attend pretty regularly 16:28:49 ok, i will put together a poll and send out a link on the ML 16:29:01 will do that later today, so please look for it! 16:29:18 #action rosmaita put together meeting time change poll 16:29:27 suggestion: have the poll and the people who show up get vote counted twice 16:29:46 rosmaita, great. thanks! should I reply to the previous ML too? 16:30:25 whoami-rajat__: i guess if you have a good argument, you might want to reply on the ML so that other people can think about it before they vote 16:30:45 but to follow up with what davee_ said 16:31:07 i am going to reserve the right to weigh the responses to the poll in considering what to do 16:31:18 ++ 16:31:37 i realize it's tricky, if this is a bad time, the people it's bad for aren't here because it's bad 16:31:38 rosmaita: you can add that as a disclaimer ;-) 16:31:50 ok, i will do that 16:32:13 rosmaita: and we'll also want to know about the new people from the PTG, right? 16:32:23 geguileo: that is a good point 16:32:42 ok, here is what i think i should do 16:33:00 let's keep the ML discussion going -- so if you have an opinion please reply there 16:33:15 we can see how many prospective new people we get at the ptg 16:33:36 and we can take a poll shortly after, after those people have had time to show up 16:33:58 so i won't do a poll until after the ptg 16:34:36 sounds good 16:34:38 ok, Liang Fang put some info on today's agenda about being in china 16:34:59 and i see that some people have updated the info a bit 16:36:32 ok, last thing on the agenda 16:36:49 some teams are planning a virtual PTG separate from next week's ptg 16:37:11 we are not going to be able to stream this one 16:37:18 "this one" being in shanghai 16:37:27 and i dont know if the recording will be any good 16:37:41 it's going to be a big room with a bunch of teams all meeting at the same time 16:38:09 so it may be worth having a follow up videoconference 16:38:19 but only if people here are interested 16:38:31 (this is where people say if they are interested) 16:38:57 interested since I have no travel budget this year 16:39:12 A video conference sounds good 16:40:03 ok, this one will need a poll -- the time will be tricky, but also how long 16:40:36 i am inclined to say 2 hours, lunch break, 2 hours 16:40:54 That sounds good 16:41:45 and i guess the way i'd do the topic list is flag topics that need follow up during the shanghai ptg 16:42:00 and also allow new topics for people who weren't there? 16:42:16 and i guess being virtual, we don't have to get it right the first time 16:42:30 what i mean is, if 4 hours isn't enough, we can do another follow up 16:42:51 kk 16:43:28 ok, well i am thinking out loud there -- i'll put together a poll or something and send out an announcement on the ML 16:43:49 #action rosmaita poll for virtual PTG 16:44:23 ok, i will shut up now 16:44:34 anyone else have anything for open discussion? 16:46:36 going once... 16:47:16 going twice... 16:47:27 OK, people who will be in shanghai, feel free to add things to the ptg etherpad if you want to get info out to everyone 16:47:28 Sold! 16:47:37 sold to the man in the purple polka dot clown suit! 16:47:53 Any volunteers who want to discuss the purposes cinder tempest , welcome to make good advices to me) 16:48:28 anastzhyr: I'm reviewing the manage tests patch, I'll finish soon 16:49:23 no sense hanging around here, then ... please remember to look at https://review.opendev.org/#/q/owner:%22Anastasiya+Zhyrkevich%22+status:open 16:49:37 safe travels to all heading to shanghai 16:49:48 and also to those heading anywhere 16:49:57 safe travels!!! 16:50:12 no meeting next week, but look for a poll about scheduling the virtual PTG 16:50:25 and no poll about meeting time until after the PTG 16:50:42 but respond on the ML if you have a strong opinion and you want to influence others 16:51:03 ok, i need to make way for the man in the purple polka dot clown suit 16:51:10 thanks for attending, everyone! 16:51:43 #endmeeting