16:00:48 <jungleboyj> #startmeeting Cinder
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16:00:52 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'cinder'
16:00:57 <e0ne> hi
16:00:59 <yikun> hello
16:01:01 <geguileo> hi! o/
16:01:09 <rosmaita> o/
16:01:13 <jungleboyj> Courtesy ping:  jungleboyj diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon tpsilva ganso patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele hwalsh felipemonteiro lpetrut lseki _alastor_ whoami-rajat yikun rosmaita
16:01:15 <walshh_> hi
16:01:27 <e0ne> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-stein-meetings
16:01:29 <rajinir> o/
16:01:33 <rosmaita> looks like etherpad problems again, at least for me
16:01:52 <enriquetaso> o/
16:02:07 <e0ne> rosmaita: it works for me now
16:02:15 <enriquetaso> rosmaita: it works for me too
16:02:18 <rosmaita> helps to have the correct url!
16:02:34 <jungleboyj> rosmaita:  :-)  The Wiki should be updated though.
16:02:39 <e0ne> :)
16:03:04 <jungleboyj> @!
16:03:05 <_pewp_> jungleboyj (;-_-)ノ
16:03:22 <jungleboyj> Ugh ....
16:03:28 * jungleboyj left my coffee upstairs.
16:03:58 <e0ne> jungleboyj: does it mean that we'll have a short meeting?
16:04:45 <jungleboyj> e0ne:  Short meeting would be good.  But I now have my coffee as well.
16:04:49 <jungleboyj> Ok, lets get started.
16:05:14 * jungleboyj gets back under my blanket first.
16:05:31 <jungleboyj> #topic announcements
16:05:42 <jungleboyj> So, at least rosmaita noticed this.
16:05:57 <rosmaita> :)
16:05:58 <jungleboyj> The previous Stein agenda etherpad was corrupted during last week's meeting.
16:06:07 <jungleboyj> So, I have created a new one.
16:06:17 <jungleboyj> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-stein-meetings
16:06:33 <xyang> hi
16:06:38 <jungleboyj> The old content isn't pretty but should all be there.
16:06:41 <jungleboyj> @!
16:06:42 <_pewp_> jungleboyj (*ﾟ͠ ∀ ͠)ﾉ
16:07:19 <jungleboyj> So, that is that.  Don't know why we keep having issues there but I think that failure may have had something to do with the etherpad system issues they were having last week.
16:07:41 <jungleboyj> Next announcement is a reminder to review/add notes to the Berlin Forum etherpads.
16:07:51 <jungleboyj> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Berlin2018
16:08:29 <geguileo> jungleboyj: about those Etherpad, why is there only 1 link per hour, when there are multiple sessions at the same time?
16:08:32 <jungleboyj> That is coming up next week.  If you can share your thoughts in the etherpads it would be appreciated.
16:08:46 <geguileo> sorry, not Etherpad, the wiki
16:08:53 <jungleboyj> geguileo:  I was wondering that too.
16:09:10 <jungleboyj> I know ours are linked.  I am thinking the other people haven't add theirs.
16:09:12 <geguileo> is it the one they think it's most important?
16:09:18 <geguileo> jungleboyj: mine isn't  XD
16:09:28 <jungleboyj> Which one is that?
16:09:39 <geguileo> jungleboyj: the usage outside openstack
16:09:54 <geguileo> but I see that on Wednesday there are multiple entries per hour
16:10:03 <geguileo> so I'll just modify the Wiki
16:10:17 <geguileo> (if I can)
16:10:29 <jungleboyj> geguileo:  That is the way it should be.
16:10:37 <jungleboyj> Weird, I swear I put that link in there.
16:10:59 <rosmaita> jungleboyj: do all our sessions have "Cinder" in the title?
16:10:59 <geguileo> maybe somebody else discarded your changes  :-(
16:11:10 <jungleboyj> geguileo:  Possibly.
16:11:21 <jungleboyj> rosmaita:  I believe they do.
16:11:29 <rosmaita> good planning!
16:12:19 <jungleboyj> I will double check our other links.
16:13:17 <jungleboyj> Also, just a node that we will not have this meeting next week due to the Summit.
16:13:38 * smcginnis passes through while getting ready to go
16:13:49 * jungleboyj waves at smcginnis
16:14:10 <jungleboyj> Ok.  I think that is all I had for announcements.
16:14:19 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  Is you phone working in Germany?
16:14:55 <jungleboyj> #topic Cinder Outing Planning for Berlin
16:16:37 <jungleboyj> So, now that etherpad is working I have started a list of who is interested in doing dinner in Berlin.
16:17:11 <jungleboyj> It sounds like there is a lot going on Wednesday night.
16:17:36 <jungleboyj> So, I am thinking trying to do something after the Marketplace Mixer might be the best?
16:17:44 <e0ne> +1
16:17:52 <jungleboyj> Or try to do something Monday night if everyone is there at that point.
16:19:18 <geguileo> jungleboyj: Red Hat has a gathering on Monday
16:19:22 <jungleboyj> Does anyone have a preference there?
16:19:24 <jungleboyj> Ok.
16:19:35 <geguileo> jungleboyj: the Marketplace Mixer is on Wednesday?
16:20:15 <jungleboyj> Tuesday.
16:20:44 <jungleboyj> Pub Crawl is on Wednesday and I have some other commitments then anyway.
16:22:07 <jungleboyj> So.  Lets shoot for Tuesday.  Does that sound good for everyone?
16:22:14 * geguileo thinks this is madness... He has parties/gatherings M,T,W
16:22:29 <smcginnis> geguileo: Often more than on a night. :)
16:22:39 <smcginnis> s/on a night/one a night/
16:22:49 <geguileo> smcginnis: yup
16:23:02 <geguileo> jungleboyj: Tuesday is as good as any other day, I guess
16:23:17 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  Would that work for you?
16:23:34 <jungleboyj> geguileo:  You have been to the Summit before.  Right?  ;-)
16:23:56 <geguileo> jungleboyj: yeah, I have, but any day we want to do the dinner, I have something already  XD
16:24:19 <smcginnis> Tuesday night the ops folks are hoping to get together too, but none of the other nights are any better as far as conflicts I think.
16:24:36 <jungleboyj> We have e0ne and geguileo  on the list and smcginnis would try to come.  Guessing eharney would be interested.
16:25:58 <jungleboyj> Well, I am going to propose Tuesday since it is as good a day as any for people.
16:26:05 <jungleboyj> I will find a location and put ti in the etherpad.
16:26:39 <jungleboyj> I will add details in there after I find a location.  If you can make it please confirm that so I know if I need to make a reservation.
16:26:57 <jungleboyj> Sound like a plan?
16:27:07 <geguileo> sounds good
16:27:16 <e0ne> +1
16:27:30 <jungleboyj> I will also send a note to the Mailing list.
16:27:56 <jungleboyj> Ok.  That was all I had for topics.
16:28:00 <jungleboyj> whoami-rajat:  Are you here?
16:29:12 <jungleboyj> Guess not.  Just taking a quick look at the bugs here.
16:30:09 <jungleboyj> Good. 1795098 has been fixed.
16:30:59 <jungleboyj> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1782714
16:31:00 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1782714 in Cinder "Properties of an attached volume are lost after live migration" [Medium,New]
16:31:02 <jungleboyj> No progress on that one.
16:31:18 <jungleboyj> Did the info from Viktor ring any bells geguileo  ?
16:31:56 <geguileo> jungleboyj: I didn't read them... Sorry  :-(
16:32:20 <jungleboyj> Ok.  I might be able to try to recreate/look at the problem but not for a couple of weeks.
16:32:33 <jungleboyj> At least I have an environment to do some more interesting tests with.
16:32:49 <geguileo> jungleboyj: I'll read the comments after the meeting and refresh my memory on the matter
16:32:56 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Thanks.
16:33:16 <jungleboyj> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1793364
16:33:16 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1793364 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "mysql db opportunistic unit tests timing out intermittently in the gate (bad thread switch?)" [High,Confirmed]
16:34:06 <jungleboyj> Multiple people have seen that issue but the bug has gone quiet.
16:34:52 <smcginnis> geguileo: Maybe a side effect of the thing you are fixing with threading?
16:35:25 <smcginnis> Oh, maybe not now that I've looked again.
16:35:36 <jungleboyj> Occurrences were the worst the first couple of days of the month.  Hasn't been happening so much the last couple of days.
16:35:38 <geguileo> smcginnis: The old threading changes?
16:36:13 <smcginnis> That's what I jumped to, but looks like maybe something different.
16:36:13 <geguileo> it looks like it's happening on Manila as well, so it should be related to all those backup thread changes...
16:36:30 <jungleboyj> should not?
16:37:46 <geguileo> and it's in Nova as wel...
16:38:22 <jungleboyj> Right.  So, would rather get the live migration issue looked at and see if anyone else figured out the unit test timeout.  :-)
16:38:29 <geguileo> it is when doing db_sync on unit tests!!  :-O
16:38:55 <smcginnis> Because of course unit tests should be modifying databases. :D
16:39:02 <jungleboyj> Yuck.
16:39:16 <e0ne> smcginnis: :)
16:39:26 <geguileo> jungleboyj: I have checked the comments on the migration bug
16:39:44 <jungleboyj> geguileo:  Cool.
16:39:48 <geguileo> jungleboyj: everything is as I said on comment #7
16:40:03 <geguileo> jungleboyj: his bug is not a bug, but the one I thought could be a bug, is
16:40:52 <jungleboyj> geguileo:  Ok.  so we do have something that needs fixing there.
16:40:56 <jungleboyj> :-)
16:41:22 <geguileo> jungleboyj: yup, but I'll tell him that it is not a bug (what was reported) and open a new one
16:41:35 <jungleboyj> geguileo:  Ah, sounds good.
16:41:45 <geguileo> with what's actually the bug, ro after migration becomes rw
16:43:38 <jungleboyj> geguileo: Cool.  Thanks for finding that.
16:43:43 <jungleboyj> Ok, so that covers the bugs.
16:43:52 <jungleboyj> Anything for Open Discussion?
16:44:29 <e0ne> see you next week i Berlin!
16:45:03 <jungleboyj> Sounds like a good plan.  And watch the dinner planning etherpad for details there.
16:45:06 <smcginnis> Glad a few of you finally get short travel.
16:45:14 <jungleboyj> :-)
16:46:15 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Looks like we can wrap up the meeting.
16:46:23 <jungleboyj> Look forward to seeing some of you next week.
16:46:39 <jungleboyj> For those of you who can't make it, you get an hour back next week.  Use it wisely.  :-)
16:46:51 <jungleboyj> Travel safe everyone and thanks for making the meeting!
16:46:56 <jungleboyj> #endmeeting