16:00:39 #startmeeting Cinder 16:00:39 Meeting started Wed Aug 1 16:00:39 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:40 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:42 The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' 16:01:05 o/ 16:01:07 courtesy ping jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne 16:01:09 hi! o/ 16:01:19 hi 16:01:26 hi 16:01:30 hi 16:01:33 o/ 16:01:38 hi 16:01:38 rofl did he just get kicked for Spamming the channel? 16:02:01 :) 16:02:10 happened to me last week when I did courtesy ping for manila mtg 16:02:13 I have leaves suppressed. Who got kicked? 16:02:27 me 16:02:34 hey 16:02:37 Jay apparently. :) 16:02:39 our fearless PTL 16:02:41 smcginnis: "[19:01:07] jungleboyj (sid96736@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fipmcflaaneoxfgc) left IRC. (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))" 16:02:41 smcginnis: jungleboyj 16:03:34 and I warned jungleboyj then that Sigyn doesn't like the courtesy ping 16:03:37 Got a message he's trying to get back on. 16:03:47 I'll be your Hucklejay. 16:03:56 jungleboyj, have you refreshed the ping list? 16:03:57 hah 16:04:05 Jay substitution! 16:04:43 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-rocky-meeting-agendas Agenda 16:05:37 Guess we can't change topics or anything, but we can at least get the conversation going. 16:05:46 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-planning-denver-9-2018 16:06:12 Looks like we have some good topics added so far. 16:06:26 +1 16:06:50 Please add your name to the attendee list if you plan on being there. 16:07:11 If you can't attend in person but hope to do so remotely, I think we will probably be able to stream again. 16:07:24 Just add your name and note (remote) next to it or something. 16:07:52 And if there is a particular topic you want to be a part of remotely, put that under the topic and we can try to ping you before we start talking about it. 16:08:02 Assuming we don't all get kicked off of IRC by then. :) 16:08:23 smcginnis: how about phone call if the remote attendee is sleeping 16:08:41 :) 16:10:09 Good list of attendees. I'm glad to see that. 16:10:45 Hi all, I am temporarily back 16:10:51 I am sure you are all laughing at me. 16:10:53 Who are you? :P 16:11:04 * jsbryant is jungleboyj 16:11:10 :) 16:11:15 How do we know it's really you? 16:11:15 * jsbryant is also feeling like a moron 16:11:19 :) 16:11:36 jsbryant: for the record, yes, we were :-) 16:11:44 jsbryant: I just went over the PTG etherpad. 16:11:57 I have sent an e-mail asking they fix my other user name. Hopefully it is fixed so that I can end the meeting at the end. 16:12:05 Awesome. 16:12:27 I've been told after 30 minutes someone else can do it. 16:12:29 jsbryant: check the auto-reply, in that case :) 16:12:52 or, actually 16:13:18 So, moving on. 16:13:27 Any thoughts on the PTG etherpad? 16:13:45 I think it looks good. :) 16:14:00 Agreed. I have added some topics in there. 16:14:08 We are up to 12 people which is good. 16:14:21 I am probably not going to be able to be there until mid morning Monday. 16:16:19 jsbryant: link? 16:16:33 etherpad that is 16:16:34 jgriffith: This one? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-planning-denver-9-2018 16:16:39 smcginnis: tahnks 16:16:41 thanks 16:16:54 smcginnis, Thanks 16:17:10 Anyone have other topics to propose now? 16:17:56 And I am back! 16:18:09 #topic Announcements 16:18:21 ilbelkyr: Thank you, thank you , thank you! 16:18:49 Ok. so moving on since it doesn't seem others have more to say now. 16:19:22 Rocky Schedule ... 16:19:40 #link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html 16:19:50 We have passed feature freeze. 16:20:02 We need to be getting bug fixes merged now. 16:20:09 I know there are a number out there that I need to review. 16:20:17 Going to try to make more time for that today. 16:20:26 We will be cutting RC-1 next week. 16:20:40 Should shoot for Wednesday 8/8 . 16:20:46 smcginnis: That make sense? 16:20:59 Yep, good plan. 16:21:16 Excellent. 16:21:53 We have spun a new python-cinderclient as we had a bug that broke Horizon and the volume_transfer functions. 16:22:25 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587601/ 16:22:48 So, that is the news there. 16:22:55 As far as releases are concerned. 16:23:13 One last announcement. So, the PTL election has happend. 16:23:43 Or nomination have closed and I was the only one nominated so I guess you don't mind me continuing as PTL. 16:23:47 I demand a recount! 16:23:51 :P 16:24:03 Ha, you want to take back over? 16:24:09 :) 16:24:19 jungleboyj: thank you for serving this role! 16:24:38 e0ne: You are welcome. Glad to help out. 16:25:15 So, I will say thanks for the continued vote of confidence and I hope the Stein cycle is a good one. 16:25:39 I think that is all we have for announcements. 16:25:54 #topic Rocky Priorities Review 16:26:26 So, we have done a pretty good job getting through the priorities this release. 16:26:47 One thing I would like some eyes on is trying to get the new support matrix format in: 16:26:58 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580757/ 16:27:09 I have addressed erlon s comments. 16:27:28 If others could take a look it would be good to get this in. 16:28:06 erlon are you here? 16:28:42 Is anyone here? 16:28:53 no 16:28:54 :) 16:29:22 Ok, the one comment that erlon had was that it would be nice to have the support as a column and the drivers as rows. 16:29:52 This wasn't really the way that the tool was designed to be used. I could, however, swap the design to go this direction. 16:29:59 smcginnis: Thoughts? 16:30:50 Would be a complete rework. Basically the driver would be the function and then the Support would be listed under each one. 16:31:18 I could try to pound that out though if that is what people would like. 16:31:58 * jungleboyj worked so hard to get here and now I am so lonely .... 16:33:09 I will follow up with erlon and smcginnis on that question. 16:33:10 jungleboyj: maybe everybody is reviewing your patch now 16:33:35 e0ne: +1 16:33:43 :-) 16:33:47 'yep 16:33:50 :) 16:34:14 Ill check that out again 16:35:18 Ok. Take a look at the review and let me know what you all think. 16:35:48 #topic Check-in on HA development. 16:36:01 geguileo: I am going to take a look at the latest documentation patch. 16:36:05 Still want to get that in. 16:36:07 jungleboyj, I imagined that that could not even be possible, given the library was designed to do the other way, but would be a nice to have if not cumbersome 16:36:30 jungleboyj: thanks 16:36:32 If we could get other cores looking at the patch it would be good: 16:36:42 #link https://review.openstack.org/571242 16:36:58 eharney: hemna e0ne tommylikehu ^^^ 16:37:15 jungleboyj:yeah! 16:37:21 Sorry, distraction. 16:37:26 erlon: I can give that is try if that is what people would like. 16:37:32 I'll review it later tonight 16:38:02 jungleboyj, nice, thanks, give us a ping so we can look at the rendered results 16:38:20 erlon: Will do. 16:38:44 Ok, so I think that is all I had on that stuff. 16:38:54 We have one other topic that no one claimed. 16:39:11 #topic Barbican with Live Migration Issue: 16:39:24 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1784873 16:39:26 Launchpad bug 1784873 in Cinder "Barbican with Live Migration issue" [Undecided,New] 16:39:43 smcginnis: Was this you? 16:39:53 No, eharney ? 16:40:04 Just wondering if anyone knows how to configure this in a multinode environment 16:40:27 walshh_: Ah, this was you? 16:40:41 It was me, on behalf of a colleague 16:40:51 Ok. Looking. 16:40:56 Lots of detail in the launchpad 16:41:07 just wondering is it configurable 16:41:33 I saw in the code that encryption is not supported for multiattach 16:41:47 wondering if the same is true for Live Migration? 16:42:52 Hmmm, may be that no one has tried it. 16:43:36 I think that eharney knows more about this area. 16:43:41 It could be unsupported too, but I've never tried that and don't know enough about the encryption constraints. 16:43:56 any insights appreciated 16:44:06 Live migration ends up briefly being like multiattach I think, so the same issues probably do apply. 16:44:18 that is what set off alarm bells 16:45:06 All the computes have access to the secret store, right? 16:45:28 We need more encryption expertise. 16:45:36 smcginnis: ++ 16:46:22 Should we add this to the PTG discussion so it isn't lost? 16:46:26 +1 16:46:46 See if we can make more progress with the smarter minds all together? 16:46:50 jungleboyj: Might be good. Even if it's a short conversation with all of us scratching our heads, maybe it will prompt someone to dig into that area. 16:47:02 smcginnis: ++ 16:47:09 walshh_: Can you add it to the therpad? 16:47:13 sure 16:47:13 *etherpad 16:47:19 walshh_: Thank you! 16:48:05 Ok. So I think that is all we have for today. 16:48:17 #topic Open Discussion. 16:48:22 Any other topics for today? 16:48:33 #chair jungleboyj 16:48:34 Current chairs: jungleboyj 16:48:46 Desperate plea for more reviewers. 16:48:53 smcginnis: ++ 16:49:15 Especially as we are moving into RC we really need more help reviewing please. 16:50:20 Hmmm, more silence. :-( 16:50:51 Ok ... Anything else we can discuss today? 16:51:45 I will take that as a no. Sorry for the craziness at the beginning of the meeting. 16:51:50 Thank you for your patience. 16:52:10 No more pinging for me. So, please add a reminder to your calendars for the meeting. 16:52:18 Thanks all! 16:52:31 #endmeeting