16:00:22 #startmeeting Cinder 16:00:22 Meeting started Wed Nov 16 16:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:23 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:25 The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' 16:00:32 ping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell stevemar watanabe.isao,tommylike.hu mdovgal ildikov 16:00:42 Hi! o/ 16:00:43 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderMeetings#Next_Cinder_Team_meeting 16:00:46 o\ 16:00:47 Hey! 16:00:49 hi 16:00:50 hello 16:01:02 hi 16:01:05 hello 16:01:06 #topic Announcements 16:01:27 o/ 16:01:33 o/ 16:01:39 Regular public service announcement: nova-net will be gone soon. CI operators - update your config to use neutron 16:01:41 hi 16:01:51 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking Review focus 16:01:55 .o/ 16:02:11 Finally did some work on that etherpad ^^ 16:02:30 Cores (and anyone who is willing to help with reviews) please take a look at that links in there. 16:02:42 We have several proposed drivers. 16:02:58 We're already at O-1, so not really much time until the new driver deadline with O-2. 16:03:00 o/ 16:03:04 * erlon-airlong me will miss friendly nova :/ 16:03:20 * stevemar lurks 16:03:30 I can review the QNAP since I'll be able to test it locally 16:03:33 stevemar: I see you back there. Oo 16:03:37 o_O 16:03:38 geguileo: Great 16:03:40 o/ Kind of here. 16:03:56 All action items go to Jay. 16:04:00 * patrickeast wanders in 16:04:03 can anybody help with contributing Open-E driver? 16:04:32 Cibo: what help do you need? 16:04:41 I have CI and code 16:04:56 Cibo: Oh? I hadn't seen anything yet. 16:05:11 Cibo: If you have a review link, please add it to that etherpad. 16:05:11 e0ne: consultancy on when my CI will be valedated as ok 16:05:26 I have not posted it 16:05:37 Cibo: Well, that would be a good first step. 16:05:46 Cibo: just ask me in irc when your your will be ready 16:06:06 https://github.com/open-e/JovianDSS-Cinder 16:06:12 #topic Attach/detach API Update 16:06:29 jgriffith, ildikov: Want to give an update? 16:07:04 ok, so I post driver and then making CI as vouting 16:07:30 Cibo: CI doesn't need to be voting, it just needs to be reporting results in the comments. 16:07:47 Cibo: Make sure you've read this: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/how-to-contribute-a-driver 16:07:49 smcginnis: sure 16:08:33 as most of you know during the last OpenStack release we started to discuss to create a new attach/detach API in Cinder 16:09:20 among other goals we hope to make the Cinder-Nova interaction easier and less racy 16:09:38 we also would like to get the multi-attach support out of this activity 16:10:00 the purpose of this slot is that we need progress in Cinder first in the sense of finalizing the API 16:10:16 smcginnis:ok, I'll recheck it 16:10:26 jgriffith has proposal code up for review: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387712/ 16:10:31 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387712/ Attach/Detach API code 16:11:04 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373203/ Spec in Nova to describe the usage of the new Cinder API 16:11:15 we need reviews from the team like now to decide whether this proposal is the one we would like to go with 16:11:43 also on the spec on the Nova side that smcginnis kindly posted above 16:11:47 So for those that have been following this, this is pretty much the v2 proposal jgriffith was working on. 16:12:12 the Nova spec intends to describe how the new API will work with Nova 16:12:57 ildikov: should we be looking at the cinder spec too? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361512/ 16:13:10 The more eyes we can get on that the better. The last thing we want to have is something that needs to get rewritten again. 16:13:20 xyang: I think that's out of date 16:13:23 xyang: I think jgriffith needs to update the spec yet. 16:13:38 ildikov, smcginnis: ok, thanks 16:13:47 #action jgriffith to update attach/detach spec 16:13:56 xyang: the Nova spec tries to capture the Cinder API parts too in some extent 16:14:10 ildikov: ok 16:14:42 Yeah, johnthetubaguy has been putting in a lot of work keeping that updated and incorporating feedback. 16:14:53 So the nova spec is probably the best picture of the process at this point. 16:15:19 we would like to proceed with Nova PoC patches as soon as we can, but without having a decision about the final version of the new Cinder API we cannot move forward with the Nova side 16:15:22 smcginnis: +1 16:16:11 ildikov: Anything else we should cover on this? 16:16:27 smcginnis: if no one has questions I think it's enough 16:16:40 smcginnis: if we go through the proposal that would hijack the meeting IMHO 16:16:44 Of course anyone can ask questions in #openstack-cinder as questions come up during reviews. 16:16:49 ildikov: Hah, yep. :) 16:17:01 ildikov: Cool, thanks for your update. 16:17:11 smcginnis: give an action point to the team to review ;) 16:17:17 #topic Action for driver maintainers with CG support: Add CG support to Generic Volume Groups 16:17:20 ildikov: ;) 16:17:26 smcginnis: thanks 16:17:29 xyang: All yours... 16:17:44 sure. 16:17:52 I have sent out email about this: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/106720.html 16:18:04 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/106720.html ML notice 16:18:14 for driver maintainers whose driver supports CG, please add CG support to generic volume groups 16:18:21 #info Deadline for drivers currently supporting CG to make this change: Pike-1 (as discussed in Barcelona) 16:18:35 * diablo_rojo sneaks in late 16:18:44 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393570/ Dev doc on how to make this change 16:18:52 smcginnis: thanks:) 16:19:07 Migration script to migrate CGs to generic volume groups: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350350 16:19:20 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350350/ Migration script to migrate CGs to generic volume groups 16:20:19 smcginnis: I'll send emails to driver maintainers whose driver supports CGs as reminder. not sure if everyone pays attention to meeting nodes and mailing list 16:21:01 xyang: OK, that would be great. 16:21:11 smcginnis: so the Pike-1 deadline would be they need to submit a patch by that deadline? 16:21:27 smcginnis: I don't know if there's enough time to get it merged by then 16:21:52 xyang: Right. We can discuss that more as we get closer, but I think it would be good for everyone to start prepping for it now. 16:22:05 Probably a good PTG topic. 16:22:15 Guess I should get a planning etherpad going for that already. 16:22:25 smcginnis: sure, I assume people would ask whether P-1 is proposal deadline or merge deadline 16:23:18 xyang: We'd like to get everyone switched over as soon as possible I think, but we probably shouldn't be too strict about cutting off at P-1. So I think proposed is good. 16:23:42 smcginnis: thanks 16:24:02 xyang: Thanks for covering it here. Any communication on this helps. 16:24:18 smcginnis: np 16:24:21 #topic Open discussion 16:24:29 Anything else to discuss? 16:24:47 I would like to remind that the A/A patches are still pending review 16:24:48 XD 16:24:54 geguileo: +1 ;) 16:25:02 And we really want to merge them asap 16:25:13 Yes, the more run time on that, the better. 16:25:22 With the other patch we merged there has been some issues we have detected 16:25:32 And they have been immediately fixed 16:25:49 But we need testing time for things to pop up 16:25:50 geguileo: Was there still something outstanding to fix there, or did you get it all cleared up? 16:26:00 smcginnis: Everything is fixed now 16:26:05 Great 16:26:12 smcginnis: The version bump in requirements is already merged 16:26:46 I think there's always inevitably minor things to fix under different conditions, so the sooner we can identify those the better. 16:26:46 And the other patches fixing library version compatibilities are already merged as well 16:26:57 geguileo: Perfect 16:27:44 mep 16:27:46 OK, I guess we finally get a short meeting. 16:27:52 damn time change 16:27:58 hemna: Hah! 16:28:03 lol 16:28:03 smcginnis: Isn't it normal in the middle of the cycle? ;) 16:28:08 hemna: You realize that was two weeks ago? :P 16:28:12 yes I do 16:28:28 dulek: Hah, I suppose. 16:28:29 maybe it's the wifi thing...... 16:28:35 hemna: LOL 16:28:56 OK, I guess that it for today. Thanks everyone. 16:29:04 thanks 16:29:12 #endmeeting