21:00:18 <jd__> #startmeeting ceilometer
21:00:19 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jul 17 21:00:18 2013 UTC.  The chair is jd__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
21:00:20 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
21:00:23 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer'
21:00:51 <eglynn> o/
21:00:53 <jd__> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MeteringAgenda
21:01:13 <asalkeld> o/
21:01:21 <terriyu> o/
21:01:25 <gordc> o/
21:01:37 <dhellmann> o/
21:01:42 * dhellmann is on a flakey connection
21:01:52 <nealph> o/
21:02:17 <jd__> #topic action from previous meeting: nealph to track tempest QA efforts
21:02:25 * jd__ looks at nealph
21:02:34 <nealph> So, I've created a new tempest bp at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/basic-tempest-integration-for-ceilometer
21:02:46 <DanD_> o/
21:03:07 <nealph> I think it makes sense for lilu to make it a dependancy in his cm blueprint as well
21:03:31 <eglynn> is this matcher mechanism used by the Heat Tempest tests also I wonder?
21:03:48 <asalkeld> not sure
21:03:57 <nealph> Perhaps...still looking at it. I'll follow the general approach taken by other tempest bp's including heat
21:04:04 <eglynn> if so, there would be some experience to leverage
21:04:08 <eglynn> cool
21:04:12 <nealph> that'd be great.
21:04:29 <nealph> the question is timeline...do we have to have this for h2/h3?
21:04:43 <asalkeld> ask stevebaker (he did all of the Heat tempest work)
21:04:43 <eglynn> not for h2 certainly
21:04:50 <eglynn> h3 more reasonable
21:05:00 * nealph sighs in relief
21:05:04 <jd__> nealph: only if someone is committing to it
21:05:42 <nealph> okay, will finish looking into it asap and try to scope it.
21:05:56 <jd__> nealph: do we need to #action this again?
21:06:01 <woodspa> #openstack-tempest
21:06:01 <nealph> yep.
21:06:31 <jd__> #action nealph to finish looking into tempest QA efforts
21:06:42 <nealph> perfect...you typed faster than I did.
21:06:46 <nealph> :d
21:06:50 <dhellmann> nealph, is the "read the full specification" link on that bp right?
21:07:52 <nealph> which one would that be?
21:08:05 <nealph> the tempest spec? no.
21:08:20 <dhellmann> yes, that's the one I meant
21:08:43 <jd__> you may want to edit that indeed :)
21:09:15 <nealph> will do...currently points to the ceilometer testing docs.
21:09:43 <jd__> #topic Add logging to our IRC channel?
21:09:50 <jd__> #vote yes
21:10:00 <eglynn> #vote yes
21:10:17 <dhellmann> the infra team is going to be offering to turn on logging for channels that want it (if jeblair hasn't already sent that email and I just missed it)
21:10:17 <asalkeld> why?
21:10:26 <dhellmann> if we'd like to have it logged, I can take care of it
21:10:36 <asalkeld> #vote no
21:10:45 <jeblair> (i don't think it's been sent)
21:10:45 * eglynn logs locally when online, great to have backup logs though for out-of-TZ traffic
21:11:20 <gordc> i'm indifferent
21:11:30 <asalkeld> how long do they get kept
21:11:30 <eglynn> would logging change the way people interact?
21:11:39 <eglynn> i.e. make folks more guarded?
21:11:45 <dhellmann> asalkeld: afaik, indefinitely
21:11:56 <eglynn> asalkeld: is that the objection? ^^^
21:11:56 <gordc> eglynn, no spontaneous tirades?
21:12:03 <asalkeld> eglynn, I think that is an issue
21:12:07 <eglynn> gordc: LOL
21:12:11 <dhellmann> eglynn: I hope not, but that's why I suggested infra ask instead of just doing it
21:12:15 <eglynn> asalkeld: yeah, you could have a point
21:12:27 <nealph> I think there's a lot of good info lost though...
21:12:40 <dhellmann> maybe this is something to think about?
21:12:45 <asalkeld> well could try it
21:12:54 <asalkeld> can we turn it on/off?
21:12:56 <dhellmann> we have time; maybe vote next week?
21:13:04 <gordc> yeah, a vote for is that i don't think anyone is on the west coast of north america
21:13:15 <dhellmann> asalkeld: it's a setting in the config file for the bot, and goes through change review
21:13:16 <eglynn> dhellmann: +1 for more thought
21:13:17 <gordc> often see random questions popping up late
21:13:22 <dhellmann> so we can turn it off, but not quickly or easily
21:13:37 <jd__> dhellmann: they should implement a #offtherecord command :)
21:13:44 <dhellmann> jd__: patches welcome?
21:13:50 <jd__> hehe
21:13:56 <dhellmann> that's a good idea
21:14:20 <jd__> let's settle on voting next week then?
21:14:21 <asalkeld> well one good thing is the ablity to see over time what questions get asked
21:14:23 <dhellmann> well, maybe not -- you can always move the tirade to another room :-)
21:14:37 <asalkeld> (i.e. what needs documenting)
21:14:40 <dhellmann> asalkeld: yeah, I think that's going to prove to be more important for us over time
21:15:22 <asalkeld> (but still a little weird)
21:15:28 <asalkeld> been recorded
21:15:37 <eglynn> 1984-ish?
21:15:54 <jd__> asalkeld: a lot of people already log the channel, me included
21:15:57 <dhellmann> I tend to assume text chats are recorded anyway, but maybe that's just me
21:16:02 <jd__> dhellmann: me too
21:16:11 <asalkeld> well I guess everything is recorded by government
21:16:13 <eglynn> NSA is watching everything anyway ;)
21:16:20 <jd__> :-)
21:16:31 <jd__> NSA is the cloud.
21:16:39 <thomasem> D=
21:16:48 <asalkeld> nsa use openstack at least;)
21:17:11 <asalkeld> but are they metering there usage?
21:17:29 * jd__ waits for an agent to pop in any minute now
21:18:02 <eglynn> there's probably been someone in deep cover here all along ;)
21:18:10 <jd__> so do we already say yes to dhellmann or do you want vote next week?
21:18:11 <asalkeld> btw: huge thanks to all for helping with the alarm stuff
21:18:26 <asalkeld> it's almost all working end to end
21:18:33 <eglynn> yay!
21:18:34 <dhellmann> nice :-)
21:18:43 <jd__> \o/
21:19:02 <jd__> I guess the beauty is doing that for h2 so we've time to polish
21:19:23 <asalkeld> I have to wait for h3 to get the heat side in
21:19:27 <jd__> #topic Review Havana-2 milestone
21:19:37 <jd__> switching topic since we're disrgressing
21:19:44 <eglynn> when was milestone-proposed cut?
21:19:50 <dhellmann> earlier today
21:19:55 <jd__> (dhellmann: I let the log stuff on the agenda for next week)
21:19:56 <dhellmann> your mailbox didn't overflow like mine?
21:20:01 <jd__> it did
21:20:06 <dhellmann> jd__: ok
21:20:19 * eglynn jumped the gun so on assigning https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1202143 to h2
21:20:20 <jd__> the branch's cut and tomorrow Ceilometer shall be released
21:20:22 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1202143 in ceilometer "sample POST fails on pipeline publish if user & project IDs not explicitly set" [Critical,Fix committed]
21:20:40 <jd__> eglynn: did you see the backlog on -dev about that bug with ttx?
21:20:40 <eglynn> are backports still being accepted>
21:20:42 <eglynn> ?
21:20:57 * eglynn reads backs ...
21:20:58 <jd__> eglynn: yes that was our point with ttx, you'll need to backport this one to the milestone-proposed branch
21:21:08 <jd__> eglynn: but you sure can
21:21:11 <eglynn> jd__: k, I'll do straight after meeting
21:21:27 <jd__> eglynn: thumps up
21:21:31 <eglynn> cool
21:21:53 <jd__> so h2's done congrats everyone
21:21:59 <jd__> we didn't push so many stuff to h3
21:22:06 <jd__> so h3 is a lot of low priority bp mainly
21:22:13 <asalkeld> heaps done
21:22:20 <jd__> #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/havana-3
21:22:51 <asalkeld> the group-by one
21:23:25 <jd__> asalkeld: ?
21:23:41 <dhellmann> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/api-group-by
21:23:42 <asalkeld> don't worry j
21:24:14 <asalkeld> that one has been pushed back for a while
21:24:48 <jd__> terriyu will be working on it starting now
21:24:49 <terriyu> I'm supposed to be working on that blueprint ...
21:24:55 <asalkeld> cool
21:25:23 <jd__> so feel free to exchange with her if you feel so :) I'm sure she'll be happy to get help
21:26:01 <terriyu> yes, I have no idea what I'm doing, so I'm always interested in talking
21:26:11 <asalkeld> btw: we should have someone from new zealand joining the dev team soon (not from red hat)
21:26:37 <jd__> asalkeld: great
21:27:02 <eglynn> asalkeld: moving the project centre of gravity down-under :)
21:27:08 <jd__> #topic Release python-ceilometerclient?
21:27:23 <eglynn> need to wait for asalkeld sample-create patch to land
21:27:26 <jd__> Needed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36905/ to uncap keystoneclient dep
21:27:37 <eglynn> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37410/
21:27:42 <asalkeld> that would be nice
21:27:50 <stevebaker> asalkeld: who?
21:28:14 <asalkeld> Aurynn Shaw
21:28:33 <asalkeld> (catalyst)
21:29:28 <jd__> I'll have a few comments on that one eglynn
21:29:36 <jd__> as soon as it lands, who's up for releasing?
21:30:06 <eglynn> I can do it
21:30:16 <stevebaker> asalkeld: ha! I know her
21:30:30 <asalkeld> stevebaker, cool
21:30:33 <eglynn> (the client relase that is ...)
21:30:49 <jd__> eglynn: thanks (lo)
21:30:52 <jd__> *lol
21:31:29 * nealph is rethinking logging ^^^^
21:31:29 <jd__> #action eglynn release python-ceilometerclient as soon as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37410/ gets in and unblock https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36905/
21:31:49 <jd__> #topic Open discussion
21:33:28 <gordc> if anyone has time, there's two patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/31969 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36213/
21:33:47 <gordc> first patch is just the specs...
21:33:49 <jd__> nah, time to sleep here :)
21:33:59 <jd__> gordc: so they're ready?
21:34:12 <gordc> i should warn that the code is size is... large.
21:34:19 <jd__> :(
21:34:37 <gordc> jd__, i think its there, probably will change based on feedback.
21:34:42 <eglynn> not targeted at h2 surely?
21:35:15 <gordc> i thought we cut it today.
21:35:57 <jd__> no way for h2
21:36:02 <jd__> h2 is tomorrow morning
21:36:03 <eglynn> gordc: well miletsone-proposed is cut hope to still get https://review.openstack.org/37574 in on that
21:36:30 <gordc> but yeah, take your time. just thought i'd bring it up. the first patch is just specs so don't let the 2000 lines throw you...its mostly just notes.
21:37:09 <gordc> eglynn, yeah, this would be too big for h2... i don't have enough money to pay you guys to get it in.
21:37:18 <eglynn> gordc: cool :)
21:37:52 <gordc> but if you want to do it out of pure kindness... don't let me stop you guys.
21:39:04 <jd__> (ending the meeting in a minute)
21:40:23 <jd__> #endmeeting