09:01:45 <masahito> #startmeeting blazar
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09:01:49 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'blazar'
09:02:06 <masahito> #topic RollCall
09:02:18 <priteau> o/
09:02:25 <hiro-kobayashi> o/
09:02:28 <bertys> o/
09:02:48 <masahito> priteau, hiro-kobayashi, bertys: hi, Happy New Year!
09:03:00 <masahito> Today's agenda is
09:03:03 <hiro-kobayashi> Happy New Year!
09:03:11 <masahito> 1. project mascot
09:03:14 <masahito> 2. status update
09:03:17 <masahito> 3. AOB
09:03:18 <priteau> Happy New Year everyone
09:03:22 <masahito> anything else?
09:04:18 <bertys> Bonne Annee! Happy New Year!
09:04:55 <masahito> #topic project mascot
09:05:33 <masahito> The foundation staff sent me a project mascot this morning.
09:05:51 <masahito> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwsSjc7Nvglja2IwSkF1V1VwWTZ1NmhlbkRxSkRhQUtlcjRZ
09:06:12 <priteau> It's cute
09:06:14 <masahito> It's a house mouse as we voted.
09:06:22 <hiro-kobayashi> Yes, it's so cute!
09:06:36 <masahito> yes. it's cute.
09:07:27 <masahito> If there isn't a problem, I replay ok to them.
09:07:52 <hiro-kobayashi> +1
09:08:00 <masahito> Gerald isn't here today, so I'll send the mascot to him, too.
09:08:13 <priteau> I was going to say the same thing
09:08:30 <priteau> He proposed the house mouse, so he should check if it looks like what he had in mind
09:08:58 <masahito> right
09:11:13 <priteau> I don't remember if we said that the mouse would be sitting on cheese or something like that. Anyway, I think it looks great as it is
09:13:12 <masahito> IIRC, we didn't mention that.
09:13:17 <bertys> masahito: Just shared this info with Gerald. He will come back to u. Thanks
09:14:14 <masahito> bertys: thanks
09:14:35 <masahito> okay, let's move on to next
09:14:41 <masahito> #topic status update
09:15:21 <masahito> we skipped last 2 meeting. So if someone has updates, please share it.
09:15:47 <hiro-kobayashi> I have some updates.
09:15:53 <hiro-kobayashi> 1. API reference
09:16:10 <hiro-kobayashi> I pushed patches of a new API reference
09:16:17 <hiro-kobayashi> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530054/
09:16:29 <hiro-kobayashi> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530065/
09:16:49 <hiro-kobayashi> And for testing them, I added a build-openstack-api-ref job.
09:17:04 <hiro-kobayashi> the result is: http://logs.openstack.org/65/530065/4/check/build-openstack-api-ref/6fc74b2/html/v1/index.html
09:17:46 <priteau> It looks great, thanks a lot for doing this Hiro!
09:18:01 <masahito> hiro-kobayashi: Great work!
09:18:03 <hiro-kobayashi> After merging them, I'll apply api reference publish jobs to publish the reference on developer.openstack.org/api-ref
09:18:16 <hiro-kobayashi> my pleasure
09:19:04 <hiro-kobayashi> So please review them ;-)
09:19:36 <hiro-kobayashi> 2. version 0.x.0
09:20:26 <hiro-kobayashi> You know, there was a mail about versioning: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-December/125843.html
09:20:37 <priteau> I was going to mention it in AOB
09:21:17 <hiro-kobayashi> When will we use 1.0?
09:21:59 <masahito> IMO, Queens release is a good chance to use 1.0.0.
09:22:37 <hiro-kobayashi> +1
09:23:05 <masahito> Blazar became an official project, will support resource monitoring and got its mascot :-)
09:23:20 <hiro-kobayashi> And perhaps we should describe the instance reservation is beta until we solve the affinity filter problem
09:23:25 <priteau> Should we use 1.0.0 only when we reach OpenStack-wide goals though?
09:24:22 <masahito> Support queens wide goals?
09:24:37 <priteau> Queens and previous releases
09:24:46 <priteau> I haven't been able to make much progress on Python 3 support
09:26:08 <masahito> Lots of project don't support all wide goal but started to use x.0.0.
09:26:08 <bertys> No strong opinion, Queens or Rocky both fine with me
09:27:09 <bertys> masahito: true
09:27:13 <masahito> Sean's mail would mention both feature side and project marketing side.
09:28:26 <masahito> like ready to deploy in production or ready to say "The project has real codes that work well.".
09:28:36 <hiro-kobayashi> Not strong but I prefer Queens because Blazar itself works well. It can promote use of blazar.
09:31:07 <priteau> We can move to 1.0.0 as long as it is clearly documented that there are still shortcomings compared to more advanced projects
09:33:19 <masahito> you mean shortcoming in features?
09:34:32 <bertys> or do you mean to have "known issues" section in Blazar release notes https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/blazar/unreleased.html?
09:35:02 <priteau> Things like online upgrades, HA, etc. which are supported by the core OpenStack projects
09:35:11 <hiro-kobayashi> bertys: Sounds good!
09:36:32 <masahito> The list is like maturity in project navigator.
09:37:01 <masahito> IIRC, none of project has all features listed in maturity.
09:38:21 <GeraldK> hi. sorry for being late. bertys just pointed me to the proposed mascot. l like it.
09:39:05 <masahito> GeraldK: hi happy new year!
09:39:13 <GeraldK> happy new year to all of you.
09:40:28 <masahito> Based on the all's opinion, how about we decide feature list to release 1.0.0 for Blazar?
09:41:45 <hiro-kobayashi> Sounds good
09:43:00 <hiro-kobayashi> And shall we add notes of important missing features in release notes or docs?
09:43:44 <masahito> Sorry, missing features compared to what?
09:45:19 <hiro-kobayashi> Sorru but I don't have a clear definition. If any active contributor says it's important, then it's important.
09:45:39 <GeraldK> IMHO can be any missing features that we are aware of
09:45:46 <priteau> I would say in docs, since release notes are per-release, and we may not have things like HA or online upgrades until much later
09:46:45 <masahito> I think it's a role of project navigator. Of course, docs is fine for each projects.
09:46:59 <priteau> Are we in the project navigator?
09:47:34 <priteau> It doesn't even show the Pike release
09:48:01 <masahito> https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/
09:48:05 <masahito> not yet.
09:48:14 <hiro-kobayashi> There is not Queens in the project navigator.
09:48:21 <masahito> we need to add Blazar to it.
09:49:22 <priteau> I see the project navigator seems to be based on tags: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tags/
09:49:28 <masahito> I'll ask infra team? or someone who is in charge of the page..
09:49:52 <priteau> So, if the tags for Blazar are correct, we could do without adding the same information in the docs
09:51:42 <masahito> maybe
09:52:19 <masahito> Anyway, I'll ask how we list Blazar in the navigator.
09:53:18 <hiro-kobayashi> thanks!
09:53:27 <masahito> and once we've added tags or written docs we'll be ready to release 1.0.0.
09:53:31 <masahito> right?
09:54:01 <hiro-kobayashi> +1
09:54:05 <priteau> OK
09:55:12 <masahito> last 5 mins.
09:55:25 <masahito> anything to share?
09:55:39 <hiro-kobayashi> I don't have other updates.
09:56:58 <masahito> okay, then let's end early.
09:57:36 <masahito> thanks all!
09:57:58 <hiro-kobayashi> Thanks! see you!
09:58:01 <masahito> bye
09:58:07 <bertys> bye
09:58:13 <masahito> #endmeeting