20:00:24 <dave-mccowan> #startmeeting barbican
20:00:25 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Mar 27 20:00:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dave-mccowan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:00:28 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'barbican'
20:00:33 <dave-mccowan> #topic roll call
20:00:48 <hockeynut> o/
20:00:59 <dave-mccowan> hi hockeynut!
20:01:07 <namnh> hi everyone
20:01:09 <hockeynut> greetings and salutations!
20:01:12 <dave-mccowan> hi namnh
20:01:22 <jackie-truong> Hi everyone
20:01:24 <kfarr> o/
20:01:28 <diazjf> o/
20:01:30 * hockeynut has to disappear in 30 mins for another meeting - sadness
20:01:51 <dave-mccowan> hockeynut i saw you at the ptg, but when i went looking for you again to say hi, you'd already left town.
20:02:20 <hockeynut> we were only allowed to go for Mon and Tues :-(  Budgets suck...
20:03:18 <dave-mccowan> thanks for coming everyone!  our agenda is in the usual place: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican
20:03:29 <dave-mccowan> #topic backlog review
20:04:00 <dave-mccowan> we're making great progress on both bugs and reviews.  the queues are shrinking every week. :-)
20:04:33 <dave-mccowan> i don't have much else to say on that, except Thanks!
20:04:42 <dave-mccowan> #topic Pike Status
20:04:57 <namnh> :-)
20:05:07 <dave-mccowan> We have two weeks left until Milestone 1.  We've already got a bunch stuff in and more in progress.
20:05:18 <dave-mccowan> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-tracker-pike
20:05:33 <dave-mccowan> https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/pike-1
20:05:51 <dave-mccowan> the second link shows what we've schedule for Pike 1.
20:06:04 <dave-mccowan> the first link is our plan for Pike overall.
20:06:36 <dave-mccowan> does anyone have an update on their work items?
20:07:32 <kfarr> The KMIP gate check merged (yay!)
20:07:51 <kfarr> Is there a way you want to cross things off the pike tracker etherpad?
20:07:52 <dave-mccowan> kfarr \o/
20:08:13 <kfarr> Or otherwise note that they've been completed?
20:08:17 <dave-mccowan> i added a new gate job for functional tests on python 3.  it's part of a "community goal" for Pike.   i fixed one bug, and have the functional tests running locally.  the gate job still isn't working yet... i'm working on the yaml foo to fix it.
20:09:51 <dave-mccowan> kfarr yes, let's update this etherpad with status as we go.
20:10:01 <kfarr> +1 +1
20:10:49 <dave-mccowan> i think we've already done more this cycle than last, :-)  but let's keep at it... the summit is taking a big bite out of the middle of the schedule this time.
20:11:13 <dave-mccowan> namnh how are upgrades looking?
20:12:03 <namnh> dave-mccowan: I think I have a good process for the feature :)
20:12:53 <dave-mccowan> namnh thanks for working on this.  we'll get another point on the maturity index when you're done. :-)
20:13:02 <namnh> dave-mccowan, kfarr: by the way, could you please review and leave your comment on two patch set: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449022/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447689/
20:13:24 <dave-mccowan> any thing else pike related?
20:13:44 <kfarr> Oh, yes, namh, I had a question about the grenade gate
20:14:01 <kfarr> Did you want the Barbican functional tests to run, or the Barbican tempest plugin? Or both?
20:14:50 <namnh> kfarr: I mean do you need run barbican tempest during offline upgrade using grenade?
20:15:11 <namnh> s/you/we/
20:16:05 <kfarr> I am not sure
20:16:27 <dave-mccowan> does anyone know what other project typically do with grenade to verify it "worked"?
20:16:28 <namnh> kfarr: as your comment on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446870/
20:17:30 <kfarr> My understanding is that for the core services, the grenade tests will launch a stable devstack, migrate to the latest dev version, then run the tempest tests
20:17:46 <hockeynut> dave-mccowan its normally tempest tests run before and after the upgrade
20:18:22 <hockeynut> note that grenade isn't going to be useful for rolling or zero downtime upgrades - the OSIC team is working on a replacement tool
20:19:04 <kfarr> So we can run the barbican tempest plugin tests, but also I thought the barbican functional tests would be more thorough
20:20:16 <dave-mccowan> kfarr i agree, functional tests would give better coverage.
20:20:29 <hockeynut> no reason you can't put up a CR for grenade to add the barbican functional tests - I am sure others do something similiar
20:20:50 <dave-mccowan> if we do a cross project tempest run, would we also need to upgrade the other projects?
20:21:58 <kfarr> We probably do?
20:23:21 <dave-mccowan> let's take this question back to the barbican channel.  i think we need to dig more into what the normal workflow is for upgrade testing.
20:23:33 <dave-mccowan> moving on...
20:23:51 <dave-mccowan> #topic summit
20:24:02 <dave-mccowan> the summit has two parts:  The main summit and a new thing, The Forum, that's kind of a skinny design summit.
20:24:41 <dave-mccowan> For the Forum, Barbican has one session confirmed: an onboarding room to meet/greet and help new contributors get started.
20:24:59 <hockeynut> gee, what if they scrap the PTG idea and just combine it with the Forum/Summit?  Then everyone is in the same place at the same time?  :-)
20:25:34 <dave-mccowan> I have submitted a request for an additional Fishbowl session.  I requested it genericly:  "Key Management Contributor/Operator/Community Discussion", or something like that.
20:26:15 <dave-mccowan> I think there are another couple days to submit other suggestions, if you have any.
20:26:58 <dave-mccowan> the link in the email list.  if you want it and can't find it, let me know.
20:27:51 <dave-mccowan> does anyone want to discuss our other Summit presentation?  i think between us, barbicaneers have 4 sessions to prepare for summit.
20:29:09 <dave-mccowan> #topic Any Other Business
20:31:11 <dave-mccowan> OK.  We'll wrap up for this week.  Thanks everyone!
20:31:51 <dave-mccowan> #endmeeting