22:15:33 #startmeeting App_ecosystem_wg 22:15:34 Meeting started Mon Jun 6 22:15:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is craigs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:15:35 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 22:15:37 The meeting name has been set to 'app_ecosystem_wg' 22:15:56 cool! 22:16:09 Any questions? 22:16:17 craigs rollcall :-) 22:16:47 o/ 22:16:57 #topic rollcall 22:17:04 0/ :) 22:17:20 craig o/ 22:17:58 who else is on for the App Ecosystem meeting? 22:18:57 Just start tagging people as we go through topics, it'll get their attention. 22:19:18 yup 22:19:23 move on to next topic 22:20:06 #topic First App Status 22:20:28 Marcela did you get a chance to try the changes to the Shade version of First App 22:20:53 I'm still reviewing Caleb's path 22:20:56 patch 22:21:16 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320709/ 22:21:44 OK, I am waiting to hear back from Martin Paulo on the jclouds version he said he would have time last week to work on it 22:22:32 Isn't the fog one done? Marcela were you going to do some testing on that one too? 22:22:44 for Fog I don't have updates from Sean 22:23:01 He's working on complete it 22:23:20 once he send a patch I'll review and test it 22:23:28 OK 22:23:48 Those are the ones that we have some commitment to complete 22:24:01 * krotscheck will look at the JS pieces. 22:24:08 Anybody have anything else for FirstApp? 22:24:14 * docaedo waves hi just before hopping on an airplane :) 22:24:16 craigs, try to use #info #agree #action to keep track of decision 22:24:33 I don't know what the state of the JS one is, let us know 22:24:33 krotscheck can help with JS :p 22:24:36 I'll reach out to kenperkins at rackspace, he may be interested in buliding out the pkgcloud firstapp. 22:24:49 (FYI: he's the person who started pkgcloud) 22:25:00 ok 22:25:51 #action krotscheck Contact Ken Perkins and see if he would be able to help build out the pkgcloud firstapp 22:26:27 #topic Update on Hackathon Status 22:27:14 Any update on the Hackathon Marcela? 22:27:33 that is me, Team is meeting reguarly on tuesdays, our focus is sponsorship recruitment and marketing campaign 22:28:24 anything else for the hackathon? 22:28:35 krotscheck: do you think hpe in mexico/guadalajara might be interested in sponsorship opportunities ? 22:29:07 or cloud training/mentorship? 22:29:11 vhdiaz: I'll ask, though it might take a bit while I dig through the green tape to figure out who's the correct contact person. 22:30:00 #action krotscheck will double check if HPE might be interested in sponsoring Guadalajara's hackathon 22:30:08 thanks!, thas is all 22:30:13 OK 22:30:24 vhdiaz: Fair warning, that's towards the end of our fiscal year, so all those moneys may already have been allocated. 22:30:30 #topic Extend openstack app discussion 22:31:02 This one still needs to be done, I will make another action item for myself 22:31:30 #action craigs Need to expand the what is an openstack app question out to the mail lists 22:32:05 #topic Brainstorm what training we are going to do for Barcelona Summit 22:32:27 Victor do you know what the plans are for training in Barcelona? 22:32:34 Are we doing a FirstApp session? 22:32:47 or do you know if Bill is working on something? 22:33:05 we can do API/SDK training 22:33:17 based on challenges 22:33:42 i suppose flander also planning for the dojo training 22:34:03 Yeah we need to ask him what's up, we haven't heard from him for a while 22:34:06 I will double check one more time, at this time I will say We own the training for Barcelona.. Bill will not participate one more time 22:34:20 Good to know. 22:34:36 the trainers should come out of this wg 22:34:37 #action vhdiaz Check with Flanders and see what he has planned for dojo training 22:34:39 I don't suppose anyone here has experience with pedagogical patterns? ;) 22:35:12 We have some guidance 22:35:22 We can use some resources 22:36:03 What does guidance/resources mean? Do you mean funding from the foundation, support via flanders, ...? 22:36:25 we do have a list of subject/challenge for the Guadalajara hackaton that could be interesting to look into 22:36:49 yes, that was 1 idea behind the hackathon.. connecting with the Dojos and provide training previous the hackathon as preparation 22:37:12 1 of those pre-event activities could be converted into a training for Barcelona 22:37:33 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tdqe13aTbh0GN5tWHIWBTDwqu4UY6EAjksY64KtnREg/edit?usp=sharing&pref=2&pli=1 22:37:58 not sure everybody has acces, if not, let me know, i'll forward 22:38:37 who is notmars? 22:38:42 bruno 22:38:55 LOL makes sense now 22:39:02 hahaha 22:39:04 LoL 22:39:09 Hrm. Maybe a "contribute to openstack" intro to our infra things? 22:39:41 this wg is more focusing from "app developer" perspective 22:40:01 yep, contributors is other kind of developers 22:40:02 I figured. 22:40:10 it should solve the challenge on how to write your first app 22:40:11 Occasionally, however, you find a bug. 22:41:12 I would expect our app developers to just submit the bugs 22:41:50 Where did this training list come from? 22:42:17 the amazing Guadalajara hackaton group :) 22:42:26 \o/ 22:42:28 kudo to mbonell :) 22:42:37 That's pretty neat 22:43:58 the pre-trainings for the hackathon will be on Agu 22:44:02 I assume all of these courses are Python-based, yes? 22:44:34 no 22:44:37 more mixed, the 'Openstack 101' is more non-programmatic at all 22:44:53 the cURL challenge is obviously...curl :P 22:44:57 .. 22:45:46 Well if we are going to do a training session for Barcelona we have to submit a proposal soon, right? 22:46:05 I believe so. 22:46:09 I'd say the sooner 22:46:28 question is probably : what do we want to start with ? 22:46:43 for training session, pls check with Flander/Foundation 22:47:12 and yes, definitely need to prepare asap 22:47:30 Deadline to submit a talk is July 13 22:48:02 For Barcelona, we could focus on Firstapp. Build FirstApp in python, build it in Java, build it in JavaSCript, etc.d 22:48:23 I like that option a lot 22:48:37 Well be careful what we offer up, we only have it in one language at this point 22:48:49 training session might be "separated" from the normal talk submission 22:48:50 I have it in Objective-C 22:48:56 craigs: Well, it'll light some fire underneath the contributors to get their apps working, no? ;) 22:48:59 I think krotscheck will have it soon in js 22:49:09 we have python now for sure 22:49:16 And by "soon" you mean "barcelona", yes. 22:49:17 fog 22:49:23 a bit of Java and a bit of .NET 22:49:26 * krotscheck hopes he'll have reviewers. 22:49:26 and we're good no ? 22:49:59 krotscheck: you have already :) (me and my js-guys are waiting to be useful :P) 22:50:07 victor has the AR to go talk to Flanders, is this what we want to propose? 22:50:08 \o/ 22:50:17 notmars_: gerrit topic neverland 22:50:36 I'm all for it. 22:50:43 krotscheck: yup, already bookmarked :) going through it tomorrow 22:50:52 Woot 22:51:53 so let's the firstapp for Barcelona ? 22:51:58 OK, Victor talk to Flanders and let him know this is our proposal 22:52:09 +1 22:52:16 ok 22:52:25 If flanders says yes, we can determine who's responsible for each of the languages, and use that to focus our barcelona deliverables. 22:53:20 yup, assign a champion to each and check on them every regularly should be enough 22:53:35 (-every) 22:53:36 #link Here is the current list of ownership https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18Zj2JU0jR4hy8y1HxFl30gTEGeqgBjc6hqv0ZAByVYo/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0 22:55:17 5 minutes 22:55:58 Did we chat about the app developer recruitment survey? 22:56:11 nope 22:56:28 Are we done with Firstapp topic? 22:56:40 yes 22:56:41 For now, yes. 22:56:44 yes 22:57:10 piet: it doesn't look like it's on the agenda. Do you mind waiting a week and having it formally on the agenda? 22:57:21 either is fine 22:57:23 Yep - no problem 22:57:24 are you ready to talk now 22:57:28 It's live 22:57:47 #topic App developer recruitment survey 22:57:53 Can you share the link 22:57:53 I shared it to engineering teams in Mexico 22:57:57 and social networks 22:58:01 great 22:58:03 The goal is to identify app devs that are interested in participating in user research for the community 22:58:32 So, it's really intended to be a resource for this group 22:58:53 However, we need to start distributing the survey to a huge number of people 22:58:56 Is this something that can be added to a registration form on one of our training events? 22:59:05 Yep 22:59:07 Bye all, its been fun and I will miss you. 22:59:10 i.e. "Sign up for training in barcelona, oh and do you mind if our UX team reaches out to you?" 22:59:33 krotscheck Yep 22:59:40 quit 22:59:45 By John! take care yourself 22:59:49 We have a list of 1200 devs at INtel who will get the survey 22:59:58 it was a pleasure co-charing wih you! 23:00:04 yup, be well John ! 23:00:24 vhdiaz There were a few folks that responded to the survey 23:00:33 Looks like we have run out of time 23:00:43 Let's pick-up next week 23:00:51 Alright. 23:00:58 Thanks all for joining 23:01:08 byee 23:01:28 #endmeeting