16:00:56 #startmeeting api_sig 16:00:57 Meeting started Thu Aug 23 16:00:56 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:58 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:01:01 The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' 16:01:07 nice, beat me to it =) 16:01:20 #link Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda 16:01:32 #chair cdent elmiko edleafe dtantsur 16:01:33 Current chairs: cdent dtantsur edleafe elmiko 16:01:42 o/ 16:01:48 o/ 16:01:56 i'm, uh, distracted 16:02:09 so am I 16:02:14 \o/ 16:02:23 #topic previous meeting action items 16:02:32 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-08-16-16.00.html 16:02:40 There were none 16:03:54 #topic open mic and ongoing or new biz 16:04:16 #link Stein PTG etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-stein-ptg 16:05:04 Any thoughts on the PTG? 16:05:11 looks like a good agenda so far 16:05:27 has elmiko managed to figure out he's going yet? 16:06:08 no, i'm not gonna be there 16:06:27 (famous last words) 16:06:31 uh huh 16:06:40 We;ll save you a spot 16:06:47 *We'll 16:06:47 hahaha <3 you guys 16:07:04 FWIW, I still don't have IBM approval to go 16:07:08 =( 16:07:13 you got a fast car 16:09:22 I'd rather have a fast plane and a hotel room :) 16:09:37 There is an item: api-sig still listed as a tc working group in governance: reference/technical-committee-repos.yaml 16:09:56 that was based on something that doug said 16:10:08 Does it need action? 16:10:12 i guess we are listed in two places: as a working group and as a sig 16:10:27 probably somebody needs to confirm we are gone from the wrong place and in the right place 16:10:46 i only got as far as checking the wrong place, ran out of brain, so dropped it on the agenda as a reminder 16:11:05 OK, let's leave it as an open item 16:11:09 Not urgent 16:11:36 as long as we get a pointer from the old place to the new 16:12:20 why? I'm trying to stay hidden :) 16:12:27 can we just propose a patch to remove it? 16:12:30 i don't that reference file results in any processing, it's just info 16:12:40 edleafe: lol! 16:12:49 dtantsur: i think so yes, but we need to confirm the right info is now in the correct place as well 16:12:53 and not leave things in limbo 16:13:23 One other agenda item 16:13:25 #link we just merge the job changes or more to it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/593943/ 16:13:38 I think yes 16:14:14 Anyone want the honor of +W? 16:14:36 Or I can do it :) 16:14:43 i vote dtantsur since he has the +2 16:14:53 * dtantsur does 16:15:15 I added my +2 to make it look super-official 16:15:52 nice 16:16:04 ++ we're not some group of amateurs 16:16:13 damn right!! 16:16:34 hahaha 16:16:40 Any other new biz to discuss? 16:16:52 * edleafe is already discussed-out from other channels 16:16:58 nothing from me 16:17:28 #topic guidelines 16:17:44 #link Guidelines https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-sig,n,z 16:17:58 The only new one is the one we just +W'd 16:18:23 i did get a chance to read and comment on cdent's pr 16:18:25 I haven't had time to get back to Chris's design advice patch 16:18:41 #link API design advice https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592003/ 16:18:47 i don't have a strong opinion on that first paragraph part, but in general i like the direction edleafe is pulling things 16:20:02 * dtantsur hasn't read yet 16:20:17 #topic bug review 16:20:30 #link Bugs https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/1039 16:20:35 Nothing new this week 16:20:47 I did get an email response from Gilles finally 16:21:01 ooh, nice! 16:21:04 * edleafe was afraid he got bit by some nasty Australian animal 16:21:12 a real concern 16:21:25 ++ 16:21:34 #link GraphQL response http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-August/133491.html 16:21:51 He stated that he simply didn't have time to work on it 16:22:05 But he also mentioned that Neutron was not cooperating 16:22:20 bummer 16:22:25 (on both accounts) 16:22:32 I followed with the Neutron PTL, and he isn't aware of anything that Gilles has put out there yet 16:22:49 No patches, and nothing posed in the Neutron channel 16:22:55 I can imagine that, it's hard to make a busy core team pay attention to something that feels a side task.. 16:23:03 So I don't understand the concern 16:23:05 ++ 16:23:18 mmmm, without patches it's hard to make people review patches 16:23:20 or am I missing something? 16:23:34 I think it's just a matter of making excuses for not being able to work on it 16:23:41 well, this work isn't going back into upstream yet. it's still experimental afaik 16:23:47 dtantsur: very good point! 16:24:44 on the other hand, $other_tasks do happen, nothing to be ashamed of 16:25:03 but without a few people doing it full time it won't get anywhere any soon (if ever) 16:25:07 dtantsur: yes, and especially when it's a side project 16:25:39 Anything else for bugs? 16:25:40 ++ 16:26:26 #topic weekly newsletter 16:26:28 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter 16:26:36 i can take it 16:26:36 Who's up for it? 16:26:41 cool 16:26:44 thanks, elmiko 16:26:55 Ping us in -sdks when you're ready 16:27:01 ++ 16:27:10 Any final words? 16:27:21 raspberries! 16:27:28 * dtantsur resists from "let the Force be with you" 16:27:35 lol 16:27:47 * edleafe thinks dtantsur didn't resist that hard 16:27:56 oh, it was sooooo hard 16:28:05 So with that... 16:28:08 #endmeeting