16:00:14 <cdent> #startmeeting api sig
16:00:15 <openstack> Meeting started Thu May 17 16:00:14 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:00:19 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig'
16:00:23 <elmiko> heyo/
16:00:24 <edleafe> \o
16:00:28 <cdent> #chair elmiko edleafe dtantsur
16:00:29 <openstack> Current chairs: cdent dtantsur edleafe elmiko
16:00:46 <cdent> #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda
16:00:59 <dtantsur> o/
16:01:06 <cdent> #link last week minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-05-10-16.00.html
16:01:12 <cdent> #topic old biz
16:01:23 <cdent> we didn't have a lot going on last week so had a very quick meeting
16:01:25 <elmiko> i hope y'all didn't assign me anything XD
16:01:33 <cdent> no action items, no new bugs, not changed reviews, nothing
16:01:44 <elmiko> that's easy
16:02:03 <edleafe> we're a bunch of lazy gits
16:02:06 <elmiko> haha
16:02:13 <dtantsur> heh
16:02:14 <elmiko> i'm not denying that XP
16:02:17 <cdent> feh
16:02:24 <cdent> speak for youself slackers!
16:02:27 <elmiko> LOL
16:02:44 <elmiko> yeah, can't speak for dtantsur and cdent, but guilty as charged
16:03:57 <cdent> most excellent
16:04:00 <cdent> #topic new biz
16:04:15 <cdent> i put the topic of "forum prep" on the agenda
16:04:26 <cdent> we have elmiko as a last minute summit attendee
16:04:28 <cdent> so that's nice
16:04:38 <elmiko> \o/
16:04:38 <cdent> and there is going to be a bof, presumably about graphql?
16:04:48 <elmiko> i left the agenda open ended on that
16:04:55 <edleafe> w00t! elmiko!
16:04:57 <elmiko> but yeah, presumably graphql will take a bunch of the time
16:05:03 <elmiko> =D
16:05:36 <edleafe> I suppose we will need to define the graphql experiment
16:05:41 <elmiko> ideally we can get a whiteboard or notepad and just do an uncoference style bof
16:05:52 <edleafe> E.g., what is expected, what constitutes improvement, etc
16:06:00 <elmiko> it sounded like the neutron folks were open to the idea of them being the first experiemnt
16:06:05 <elmiko> edleafe++
16:06:42 <cdent> are the four of us on the hook for anything with that, other than making sure the room is there and trying to keep things on some form of track?
16:07:15 <elmiko> i think we're just facilitating the conversation and providing opinion where needed
16:07:40 <elmiko> and i suppose we can take notes too XD
16:07:42 <edleafe> I see us as coordinating the various interests so that they aren't at cross-purposes
16:07:49 <elmiko> ++
16:07:55 <cdent> cool
16:08:02 <edleafe> So that result X means the same thing to everyone
16:08:36 <elmiko> yeah, i like the idea of adding some formalization to this effort
16:10:35 <cdent> Seems like we are generally in agreement to show up, be helpful, watch for and help clear up misunderstandings. Facillitation. Good. Let's have more of that.
16:10:38 <cdent> any other new biz?
16:11:06 <elmiko> nothing here
16:11:11 <edleafe> nada
16:12:03 <cdent> #topic guidelines
16:12:04 <cdent> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z
16:12:15 <cdent> been some weeks since any changes
16:12:33 <cdent> post summit we probably will want to address that
16:12:52 <elmiko> my schedule is starting to free up, so i can actually get back to the microversion history thing
16:12:57 <edleafe> maybe even during the summit
16:13:07 <elmiko> i'm down =)
16:13:19 <cdent> again with the slackers!
16:13:25 <elmiko> haha
16:13:26 <dtantsur> :)
16:13:56 <cdent> #topic bug review
16:13:57 <cdent> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
16:14:10 <cdent> same deal here
16:14:30 <cdent> I guess elmiko and edleafe are going to fix all bugs and finish all guidelines next week, so nbd
16:14:39 <elmiko> LOL
16:14:43 <dtantsur> yep
16:14:47 <elmiko> gonna be a big week
16:15:47 <edleafe> that's my plan for sure
16:15:53 <cdent> you can sit on that lovely balcony and get stuff done
16:16:16 <cdent> away from hoi polloi
16:16:32 <cdent> anything else about bugs?
16:16:47 <edleafe> I have a few new caterpillars
16:16:53 <edleafe> those are bugs, right?
16:16:57 <cdent> #topic open (again)
16:17:27 <cdent> There's a session we should all go to if we can, let me find it
16:17:39 <elmiko> i feel like there was another api related issue that came up on the ml which we might need space for at summit
16:17:48 <cdent> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/events/21881/api-debt-cleanup
16:17:53 <elmiko> that's it
16:18:17 <cdent> there are a lot of different opinions on this stuff
16:18:17 <edleafe> I'll be there
16:18:19 <dtantsur> huh, interesting
16:18:24 <elmiko> bummer, so sadly, i need to fly back wednesday =/
16:18:34 <cdent> it comes out of a twitter conversation:
16:18:45 <edleafe> elmiko: you like doing hit-and-run conference attendance, huh?
16:19:12 <elmiko> i wouldn't say "like", but it happens =(
16:19:21 <elmiko> who knows, i could get snowed in again ;)
16:19:34 <cdent> #link https://twitter.com/anticdent/status/994939351233712133 (there are several ways into the same very branching thread)
16:19:38 <edleafe> Rained in is much more likely
16:22:02 <elmiko> any chance of that session getting moved to tuesday?
16:22:38 <edleafe> elmiko: I think that that time slot was the least bad one for everyone concerned
16:22:50 <edleafe> So I'm not sure how easy it will be to move it
16:22:53 <elmiko> kinda figured, it was added recently it seems
16:22:57 <elmiko> yeah, totally fair
16:23:04 <elmiko> i'll investigate adding another day to my travel
16:23:53 * cdent is fascinated by elmiko's travel
16:24:01 <elmiko> heh
16:24:14 <cdent> Anyone have anything else?
16:24:30 <edleafe> not from me
16:24:48 <elmiko> nothing here
16:25:08 <cdent> #topic weekly newsletter
16:25:08 <cdent> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter
16:25:12 <cdent> who wants it?
16:25:31 <elmiko> i can take it
16:25:54 <cdent> cool, thanks
16:25:58 <cdent> Shall I close?
16:26:14 <elmiko> sure, i'll ping in -sdks when i've got something
16:26:16 <edleafe> finish it!
16:26:24 <elmiko> see you next week! =)
16:26:47 <dtantsur> o/
16:27:29 <cdent> #endmeeting