16:00:25 #startmeeting api-sig 16:00:26 Meeting started Thu Aug 17 16:00:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:27 but on eavesdrop we have any entry 16:00:28 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:31 The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' 16:00:35 see? 16:00:40 yeah, I get that 16:00:43 Now to check the logs 16:00:59 we're gonna have to fix up the wiki page agenda and maybe another spot or two 16:00:59 but: oh never mind, you did update eavesro 16:01:05 that’s what I was really asking: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda 16:01:09 I mean http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#API_Special_Interest_Group 16:01:18 yep, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2017/ 16:01:18 * elmiko is so confused 16:01:33 elmiko: don’t worry, just accept it as the natural state of the universe 16:02:16 in case you didn't see: https://review.openstack.org/493896 16:02:17 ohmmmmm 16:03:13 * cdent thinks that edleafe should run the show today 16:03:24 because he’s clearly more on top of things than me or elmiko 16:03:30 +1 16:03:37 well, since I was doing the name change stuff 16:04:15 #chair cdent elmiko edleafe 16:04:15 Current chairs: cdent edleafe elmiko 16:04:19 yeah, I hadn’t realized how far along you had got 16:04:33 I had some time one afternoon... 16:04:49 very nice edleafe =) 16:05:06 and what is this word "time" you speak of? 16:05:32 elmiko: well, it lasted so quickly I can't remember :) 16:05:38 LOL 16:06:19 we really should have become "openstack-comedy-hour-sig", so much easier to attract newcomers 16:06:50 #topic previous meeting action items 16:06:51 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-08-10-16.00.html 16:07:00 The only one was mine 16:07:21 is there more to do still? 16:07:36 #action edleafe to continue with the renaming work as time permits 16:07:42 we have an open question on how/whether to deal with launchpad and git 16:07:44 elmiko: there's that 'time' thing agan 16:07:46 again 16:07:51 ;) 16:08:13 cdent: ah, right. good point 16:08:33 Yeah, I started looking at launchpad, but ran out of time 16:08:38 * cdent consider adding purplerbot to this channel just so I can transclude dtantsur 16:08:39 it wasn't obvious 16:08:46 infra probably knows? 16:09:00 probably 16:10:02 #topic open mic and new biz 16:10:14 I guess this is more "new" biz 16:11:01 Anything else interesting to discuss? 16:11:12 are we ready to move forward on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487847/ ? 16:11:30 i wasn't sure if we needed something more before approving and starting to email folks 16:11:48 I think we should probably move that along, so we can start publishing something about it before ptg 16:12:08 agreed, i'd like to give folks at least a few weeks to consider it 16:12:14 I’ve added a blurb about it in the description for api-wg^wsig room that will be published somewhere 16:12:21 +1 16:12:36 I haven't seen it since ps3 - looking now 16:13:08 cool 16:13:23 ah, mostly just typo fixes 16:14:03 yeah, i think i may have added something to address a concern from dtantsur 16:14:08 I added a +1. We don't need to send this for wider review, as it's not a guideline? 16:14:30 that's what i was thinking 16:15:08 it also modifies the index/toc page for the guidelines site to separate these wg/sig oriented process docs from the actual guidelines 16:16:02 So cdent - your view on merging this? 16:16:08 yes 16:16:27 yes - as in "yes, let's merge it"? 16:16:39 yes, let's 16:16:48 in fact I’m happy to do so 16:16:49 done 16:16:51 hehe 16:17:13 sharked 16:17:13 \o/ 16:17:30 elmiko: Now that all PTLs are set, will you be sending something to them about this? 16:18:45 sure, i can take that action 16:19:01 is there a convenient link to a governance repo with the emails? 16:19:17 #action elmiko email ptls about guided review process 16:19:18 #action elmiko to send an email to all PTLs regarding the guided review process at PTG 16:19:24 ops 16:19:24 jinx 16:19:27 =) 16:19:31 #undo 16:19:32 Removing item from minutes: #action elmiko to send an email to all PTLs regarding the guided review process at PTG 16:19:36 first round is on me in denver ;) 16:19:56 #undo 16:19:57 Removing item from minutes: #action elmiko email ptls about guided review process 16:20:02 #action elmiko to send an email to all PTLs regarding the guided review process at PTG 16:20:12 ok, now you only have to do it once :) 16:20:20 much appreciated =) 16:20:30 Any other new biz? 16:20:40 more on the ptg: 16:20:48 * cdent looks for link 16:21:14 okay with the blurb here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rM-LjcJTxzrffNZ_R1cN3yW9bIJsE5i2Udj8c-yJfss/edit#heading=h.75oe5h7u76xv 16:21:16 ? 16:21:30 * elmiko looks 16:21:50 general question is what we gonna do with all that time and space 16:21:54 yeah 16:22:02 your blurb lgtm 16:22:18 additional point: join openstack-ptg to discuss and gain access to using ptgbot (did you get mail about that, or was it only me?) 16:22:28 will we be able to schedule something so that people know when we might talk about the guidelines? 16:22:36 i did not 16:22:47 nor I 16:23:27 also, should we have a microversion therapy session? 16:23:35 XD 16:24:00 elmiko: I found this page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/CurrentPTLs 16:24:10 but it's a tad out-of-date :) 16:24:27 yeah, hmm 16:24:46 i'll go through the ptl announcements on the dev list, maybe there is a comprehensive list 16:24:57 elmiko: this looks better: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/projects.yaml 16:24:58 * cdent forwards the ptgbot email 16:26:00 ooh! thanks edleafe++ 16:26:14 * edleafe starts looking in his spam folder, with all the rest of cdent's emails 16:26:19 i'll get this email out before cob tomorrow 16:26:23 I thought I had fixed that? 16:26:26 * elmiko chuckles 16:26:41 you fixed edleafe's killfile? XD 16:27:27 * edleafe thinks he gurt cdent's feelings 16:27:33 s/gurt/hurt 16:28:00 aw, no, I suffer from running my own mail server which means the big dogs don’t like to accept my mail 16:28:23 that unfriendly of them 16:28:32 that was my problem too 16:28:41 * elmiko checks his junk folder 16:29:05 but now I route everything through gmail, and it works fine 16:29:29 nah, i don't have it 16:29:49 I got it 16:30:09 what’s the right address for you elmiko ? 16:30:25 msm@redhat.com 16:30:39 that is the one I used 16:30:44 * cdent stews 16:30:46 * elmiko really needs to get elmiko@redhat.com 16:31:08 yeah, i don't see it in junk either 16:31:17 * cdent sends it via gmail 16:31:29 and thus dies the free internet... 16:31:34 * elmiko plays taps 16:31:43 it's been dead for some time 16:31:51 at least email has 16:31:51 splitters 16:32:30 too true edleafe 16:32:41 got it cdent 16:32:48 ok, let's move on 16:32:48 #topic guidelines 16:32:48 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z 16:32:52 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-sig,n,z 16:32:52 anyway, the point of ptgbot is to make it easy to announce to the world at large about room schedules: 16:33:04 http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html 16:33:29 yeah, looks cool 16:33:39 The only interesting thing to discuss is cdent's extension thing: https://review.openstack.org/491611 16:33:41 I haven’t had a chance to get back to the extensions thing. 16:33:49 your suggestions, edleafe, are helpful 16:33:59 I’m unsure on how much of mordred’s considerations to include 16:34:55 Heh, it all starts to sound the same 16:35:13 "Don't do X. But since everyone's already doing X, ..." 16:35:36 i like edleafe's update to the paragraph i was stuck on 16:36:16 i'll add my thoughts on the review 16:37:27 cdent: re: mordred's comments, i'm not sure either 16:38:02 any other reviews on your minds? 16:38:40 i don’t think anything else has had action 16:39:21 #topic bug review 16:39:22 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg 16:39:29 Nothing new there 16:39:46 #topic weekly newsletter 16:39:47 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter 16:39:53 Volunteers? 16:40:09 * cdent is half asleep 16:41:19 * edleafe pokes elmiko 16:41:25 yup, i can take it 16:41:51 hehehe 16:41:54 =) 16:41:57 that was more painful than usual, this day has some oooph on it 16:42:12 cdent: that's a bummer =( 16:42:37 oops, bad link there 16:42:40 I think it is post RC fatigue combined with pre-PTG fatigue combined with ? 16:42:44 * edleafe should update that 16:43:06 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter 16:43:47 #action edleafe to move newsletter etherpad after newsletter is sent 16:44:10 So... anything else? Or can we tuck cdent into bed? 16:44:13 cool, i'll ping in sdks when i've got something 16:44:18 i'd say tuck cdent in 16:44:23 probably for the best 16:44:29 * elmiko gets out _Goodnight Moon_ 16:45:18 #endmeeting