Sunday, 2014-02-02

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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix editing of systemd files on openSUSE
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lifelessSpamapS: around ?20:49
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SpamapSlifeless: Here for a bit now. Wassup?21:22
lifelessSpamapS: tripleo-cd is disabled/dead21:23
lifelessSpamapS: since I wasn't paying attention on saturday, I thought I'd get a handoff from you :)21:23
SpamapSlifeless: I believe it was disabled because of the templates problems and the grep for notcompute instead of notCompute21:24
SpamapSlifeless: also I think that we'll end up deleting rather than creating .. because notcompute -> notCompute021:24
SpamapSdeleting rather than updating21:25
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Make wait_for print out command on timeout.
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Use relative path for keystone-manage
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SpamapSlifeless: so, devtest is broken without this:
SpamapSlifeless: but it is not entirely without risk.. as it will break users who are depending on the parameter name changing22:13
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lifelessSpamapS: we can keep the parameter name the same, no ?22:19
lifelessSpamapS: just make it be what it was in the output before22:20
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SpamapSlifeless: I'm not sure I understand what you are asking.22:22
SpamapSlifeless: the change I'm making turns off a feature of that nobody actually, I think, wants.22:22
SpamapSlifeless: this makes it work the way you probably expected it to (change a resource name, keep the parameter name used in ImageId the same).22:23
lifelessbut the users depending on parameter names depend on the parameter names in the built template22:23
lifelesswhich we control22:23
SpamapSlifeless: right right22:23
SpamapSlifeless: the users depending on this feature can just do --change-image-params, _or_ change their source template accordingly.22:24
SpamapSso while we're going to break their parameters now.. we have two workarounds for them. :)22:24
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Remove image parameter changing from merge
SpamapSlifeless: now..we have to delete the tripleo cloud.22:25
lifelesswhy ?22:26
SpamapSlifeless: renaming resources is basically never allowed22:26
SpamapSwe can't ever do that again. ;)22:26
lifelessSpamapS: it will delete everything and build new, right?22:26
SpamapSbecause we won't init-keystone if we let it do update22:26
lifelessoh right, our userspace scripts22:26
SpamapSand ... all the other stuff ...22:26
lifeless heat stack-list22:27
lifelessERROR: Authentication required22:27
lifelesskeystone user-list works22:27
SpamapSoh we may need to update our keystone22:27
SpamapSdid we update heat recently?22:27
SpamapSheat now depends on keystone api v322:27
lifelesson the undercloud... not that I knowof22:27
SpamapSbut v3 was broken until a little over a week ago22:27
lifelesscommit 82530020f26bd792998934bc70897438fabf74e722:27
lifelessAuthor: Clint Byrum <>22:27
lifelessDate:   Thu Dec 19 16:01:17 2013 -080022:27
SpamapSOk then ???22:28
lifelessthats from heat22:28
lifeless# service heat-api restart22:28
lifelessheat-api stop/waiting22:28
lifelessstart: Job failed to start22:28
lifeless# df -h22:28
lifelessFilesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on22:28
lifeless/dev/sda1        19G   19G     0 100% /22:28
StevenKThat looks like a smoking gun22:28
SpamapSlets move /opt/stack to /mnt22:29
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lifelesshah /var/lib I think you mean22:29
SpamapSwe have log rotation but it just can't keep up22:29
lifelessundercloud wasn't deployed with ephemeral22:29
SpamapSno I mean /opt/stack22:30
SpamapShalf the / is taken up by images in /opt/stack22:30
lifelessI know you mean /opt/stack22:30
SpamapShaha yeah22:30
* SpamapS drank too much of the kool aid22:30
StevenKThen we should fix glance to use /mnt/state?22:30
SpamapSStevenK: not glance images22:30
SpamapSbuilt images22:30
StevenKUnless I'm misunderstanding, which is possible22:30
lifelessbuilt images are a big chunk22:30
lifelessI already symlinks a couple into /var/lib22:31
SpamapSclint@undercloud-notcompute-jws3awlsb2kh:~$ du -hs /opt/stack22:31
SpamapSmust have been recent?22:31
SpamapSit was at ~6G last time I was fighting this22:31
SpamapSwe could also move /var/log there22:31
SpamapSauth.log.1 == 240M22:32
SpamapSperhaps it is time to firewall SSH? ;)22:32
lifeless4.5G in /var/log22:32
SpamapSsudo commands actually22:33
SpamapSall the sudos from all the builds.. doh22:33
lifelessfreed a G22:33
lifelessstarted tripleo-cd22:33
SpamapSnot moving anything?22:33
lifelesssooner we get HA finished, sooner we can deploy a new undercloud and migrate22:33
lifelessSpamapS: I figure it will be a manual live migration22:34
SpamapSok.. not sure I like the math.. should only take 5 min.. but it's Sunday here so my opinions are discount today :)22:34
lifelessSpamapS: feel free to do it :P22:36
SpamapSwell that would require stopping tripleo-cd22:36
SpamapSso meh22:36
SpamapSalso I need to stop caring about tripleo-cd a bit this week and just head-down get something going for rolling updates22:36
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lifelessSpamapS: I would argue that that *is* caring about tripleo-cd22:38
SpamapSand now it's awkward.. ;)22:39
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StevenKlifeless: I should book travel for Sunnyvale, then?22:47
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lifelesscody-somerville: ping22:52
lifelessStevenK: yes22:52
SpamapSStevenK: I think we should do a little coordination within our HP team ... there's enough coming that we should probably get a block at a hotel.. carpool.. etc.22:52
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StevenKSpamapS: Carpool from the airport to the hotel probably won't work, but carpooling to the office from the same hotel is a big +122:53
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clarkbyou can ride the train to the hotel and to the office if you stay at that hilton right?22:56
SpamapSStevenK: yeah22:58
SpamapSclarkb: sort of22:58
SpamapSclarkb: SFO -> Sunnyvale .. you know how that train ride works. ;)22:58
SpamapSclarkb: SJC -> Santa Clara Hilton you take a shuttle to VTA light rail and then VTA light rail to the front of that hotel.22:59
clarkboh right because you probably can't get flights from australia to san jose22:59
StevenKAnything for me and jamezpolley is going to be via LAX23:00
SpamapSEither way, there's also car pool to dinner, though if we stay at the Santa Clara Hilton we can light rail to Mountain View and there are enough interesting restaurants there to keep us entertained for 4 nights23:00
SpamapSStevenK: There are usually Sydney to SFO flights too23:00
StevenKSpamapS: Not via qantas23:01
clarkboh if you fly through LAX then you should be able to land at SJC23:01
SpamapSStevenK: ahh, loyalty. ;)23:01
StevenKI was asuming SFO would be better, but it looks like SJC works too23:02
SpamapSyeah LAX -> SJC is a 1hr flight :)23:02
clarkbSJC is much better if staying in sunnyvale23:02
StevenKLooks pretty much the same as LAX -> SFO23:02
mordredactualy, yeah, SYD-LAX-SJC is actually going to be nicer than SYD-SFO-$transitfail23:02
SpamapSYeah those connectors are easy and short23:02
SpamapSStevenK: time it right and we _can_ carpool from the airport. ;)23:02
StevenKmordred: It turns out to be SYD-LAX-SFO-$transitfail23:03
SpamapSif we all just aim for the same 3 hour window at SJC.. :)23:03
StevenKMy preferred flight gets into LAX at 093523:03
StevenK(Yay A380)23:03
SpamapSmordred: if only BART went in a giant circle around the bay area... (planned for 20 years, eta 2026)23:04
clarkbSpamapS: the crazy thing is san jose is "bigger" than seattle and portland but they are both actual cities (if smallish) with actual city stuff23:05
SpamapSclarkb: DT SJC is decent23:06
SpamapSclarkb: but SJC is only "big" because it has annexed half the surrounding towns.23:07
SpamapSIIRC it passed San Francisco for 4th largest by population a few years ago.23:07
StevenKSpamapS: This is like Sydney just spreading out and out and out?23:07
SpamapSStevenK: yeah, SJC is far enough east that it isn't trapped between mountains like SFO or OAK23:08
SpamapSStevenK: LA is more like Sydney from what I've heard.23:08
SpamapSI mean, plus gangs and hollyweird23:08
StevenKSpamapS: Hm, when is the OAK BART bit supposed to be finished by?23:21
lifelessoh look peoples23:21
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cody-somervillelifeless: pong23:38
lifelesscody-somerville: hey - you back @ home?23:38
cody-somervillelifeless: Afraid not.23:39
lifelesscody-somerville: ah :)23:39
lifelesscody-somerville: so, did you get my mail about budget stuff ?23:39
lifelesscody-somerville: mordred acked just getting the ball rolling, but I'm wondering if we should get that in before telling all HP staff to book travel23:40
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cody-somervillelifeless: Ok. So we'll have  travel, lodging, and misc T&E for HP employees. Are you planning to have lunch catered any of the days? Any events/dinners in the evenings?23:41
lifelesscody-somerville: I'd like to do one group dinner with all attendees on HP23:42
lifelesscody-somerville: lunches I'm happy to have everyone fend for themselves in the cafe - my experience with catered in the room was lacklustre23:43
cody-somervillelifeless: I'd like to see about getting a block of rooms since we have so many people attending. Will fill out the forms for that tomorrow morning.23:43
lifelesscody-somerville: does that get us a discount ?23:43
cody-somervilleThey'll do a CFP from at least three different hotels to get us lowest price.23:44
lifelesscody-somerville: ah23:44
cody-somervilleIf you have a preferred hotel, let me know and I can include that data in the submission.23:45
lifelesscody-somerville: I will guess that expressing a preference for hilton, since we have HP's complementary gold membership there...23:45
lifelesscody-somerville: will make the stay more pleasant for everyone :)23:45
lifelessclarkb: are you planning on coming23:45
cody-somervilleHow many people are you expecting for non-hp so far? I'm pretty sure I can get block room rate extended for everyone.23:45
lifelesscody-somerville: no idea sorry; RH and mirantis have expressed intent to come23:46
clarkbI probably won't unless is a compelling reason for me to go23:46
clarkb* unless there is23:46
lifelesscody-somerville: I haven't heard anything from suse or rackspace (but I haven't explicitly pinged them either)23:46
lifelessclarkb: if we can get some dedicated bandwidth from you remotely that would be ok too23:46
lifelessclarkb: but we made a lot of progress w/you in the room in seattle...23:46
clarkbya but sunnyvale :) also I am afraid of letting infra slip again while we are only just barely catching up23:47
clarkbdedicated remote time might be best23:48
cody-somervilleDoes Seattle have a HALO/V3C room?23:48
clarkbwhat is that?23:49
clarkb(so probably not)23:49
lifelessits the video conferencing dooicky23:49
clarkboh we are supposed to get one but don't have it yet23:49
cody-somervillelifeless: I'm heading to bed now but will keep you in the loop.23:52
lifelesscody-somerville: cool, thanks.23:53
cody-somervillelifeless: oh, and will you be renting car?23:56
lifelesscody-somerville: I will yes23:57
lifelesscody-somerville: since I'll likely be flying into SFO due to crazy airline routing23:59
cody-somervillelifeless: get a minivan so you can shuttle us all around :)23:59

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