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| themistymay | hey everyone! | 15:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | themistymay, hey | 15:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | themistymay, how are you? | 15:09 |
| themistymay | good. our main project is in a busy time right now but glad to have some savanna work to fall back on. how are you? | 15:09 |
| tmckay | crobertsrh, I went to update horizon today with the latest, and my venv setup fails with ImportError: cannot import name Feature | 15:14 |
| tmckay | crobertsrh, ring any bells? | 15:14 |
| crobertsrh | Hmm, haven't seen that one yet. | 15:14 |
| crobertsrh | Is that from master or a branch? | 15:14 |
| tmckay | master | 15:14 |
| crobertsrh | I'll see what I find. I think I had been using the havana branch. | 15:15 |
| tmckay | looks like it has something to do with the setup tools | 15:17 |
| crobertsrh | Hmm. You got that problem when you ran install_venv? | 15:19 |
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| crobertsrh | I didn't get any errors when updating to master | 15:22 |
| crobertsrh | Are you on f20? | 15:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | themistymay, I'm fine, thx, was on a meeting | 15:36 |
| themistymay | np :D | 15:36 |
| themistymay | SergeyLukjanov: i am working to fix tox.ini and in the process ran flake8. looks like there are some flake8 issues in master. is this something to correct? | 15:43 |
| SergeyLukjanov | themistymay, yup, if it's a real issues | 15:44 |
| themistymay | there are a handful of E226 missing whitespace around arithmetic operator | 15:44 |
| SergeyLukjanov | themistymay, because flake8 job is voting for savanna, so, we expect to not have flake8 issues in master | 15:44 |
| tmckay | crobertsrh, I'm on F19 | 15:44 |
| SergeyLukjanov | themistymay, heh, that's fun, it's not disabled, probably was fixed in some new version | 15:45 |
| themistymay | ok, i'll work in a patch to fix these as well | 15:45 |
| crobertsrh | tmckay: Maybe try on a clean directory? If you're still hosed, I can spin up an f19 and see if I can duplicate the problem. | 15:46 |
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| tmckay | crobertsrh, well, I did try upgrading pip, but didn't try on a clean dir after that | 15:47 |
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| tmckay | I'll try. I can try an F20 and see if it works, maybe it's time to upgrade | 15:47 |
| elmiko | time to drag you into the present ;) | 15:48 |
| tmckay | heh, like F19 is so far in the past... | 15:48 |
| elmiko | well i know what you said about upgrading... (<-- mimccune) | 15:49 |
| tmckay | elmiko, ack | 15:49 |
| elmiko | i used this nick on freenode for awhile, so i figured why change | 15:50 |
| tmckay | nope, still fails on a clean dir. | 15:50 |
| themistymay | SergeyLukjanov: can you confirm you want these fixed? (i can add in an ignore if you do not) | 15:52 |
| themistymay | ./savanna/plugins/intel/client/session.py:32:16: E226 missing whitespace around arithmetic operator | 15:52 |
| themistymay | timeout = 4*60*60 # 4 hours | 15:52 |
| themistymay | that is an example | 15:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | themistymay, sounds correct | 15:53 |
| themistymay | ok you got it | 15:53 |
| SergeyLukjanov | themistymay, but PEP 8 does not enforce them | 15:54 |
| themistymay | no, these are from flake | 15:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | themistymay, which versions of pep8 and flake8 are you using? | 15:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | (*) In the default configuration, the checks E123, E133, E226, E241 and E242 are ignored because they are not rules unanimously accepted, and PEP 8 does not enforce them. The check E133 is mutually exclusive with check E123. Use switch --hang-closing to report E133 instead of E123. | 15:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | themistymay, http://pep8.readthedocs.org/en/1.4.6/intro.html | 15:55 |
| themistymay | flake8 --version | 15:55 |
| themistymay | 2.0 (pep8: 1.4.5, GitCheckCommitTitleBug: 0.0.1, GitCheckCommitTitleLength: 0.0.1, GitCheckCommitTitlePeriodEnding: 0.0.1, hacking.core: 0.0.1, ProxyChecker: 0.0.1, mccabe: 0.2.1, pyflakes: 0.7.3) | 15:55 |
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| tosky | tmckay: there is an email with the error you mentioned on openstack-dev [openstack-dev] [Nova] Tox issues on a clean environment | 16:26 |
| tmckay | tosky, thanks | 16:28 |
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| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, so, what's this total nonsense about splitting api and engine via an interface that can only live in one module? | 17:06 |
| * mattf kids, he kids | 17:06 | |
| mattf | but seriously, what do you have in mind? | 17:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, hey, noone say that it's impossible | 17:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | BUT I'd like to keep it in one place, one impl | 17:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | because under the hood nothing changed in fact | 17:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | for example if we'll have joint image_update it could be called with partial args from the old api | 17:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | my note about N:1 mappings from api to service layer means that we shouldn't invent new service (core code) layer for each new API | 17:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and it shouldn't be versioned as the API | 17:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | we should be able to change both layers separately | 17:09 |
| mattf | part of why i want to separate it is so we can be clear on where changes should happen and where we need to be very careful about changes. | 17:10 |
| mattf | i actually want to duplicate the current stuff into v1 and have the v2 api/service use nothing from v1, but that seemed extreme. i settled on the middle ground in the review. | 17:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | let's presume that we decided to make some total improvement on the service side - it could change the whole service layer but api layer will still be intouched | 17:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | untouched* | 17:10 |
| mattf | we need to be very careful in changing anything in the v2 layer - in the name of stability | 17:11 |
| mattf | maybe we're thinking about the layers differently | 17:11 |
| mattf | the api provides form, the service layer provides function, the model layer may be N:1 | 17:12 |
| mattf | i don't want to push function (e.g. a delete call that gets the obj before deleting it) into the api layer. i want that to live in the service layer. | 17:12 |
| mattf | the service layer is where we handle any mismatch between the exposed semantics and the model layer | 17:13 |
| mattf | are we on the same page w/ ^^ distinctions? | 17:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | just to clarify, my opinion is that service layer versioning 1:1 mapped to API is totally incorrect | 17:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | model will be always the same | 17:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | views == api + transformations are "per API version" | 17:14 |
| mattf | we definitely disagree on that. i want the versions to be stable. right now there's bleed from the v1 into the v2. i'd rather they be separate. | 17:14 |
| mattf | will you expand on ^^ some. i'm not sure i understand | 17:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I want to not duplicate functionality/code, especially in service layer, that's the core of project | 17:15 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | sorry, but I'm quite busy right now - pushing last steps of i3 dev milestone release | 17:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | we can continue after the meeting | 17:16 |
| mattf | sure thing | 17:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anyway, it looks like a very big and important question | 17:18 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | hey savanna folks | 17:48 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I have an answer from foundation folks | 17:49 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | "From the trademark search, Sahara and Caravan are the best options." | 17:49 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and team meeting in 10 mins | 17:49 |
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| mattf | that's rather disappointing. i wonder how fusor would have done. | 17:57 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, yup, a bit disappointing... | 17:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I've not found any issues with Fusor when proposed it ;( | 17:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | meeting time! | 17:59 |
| mattf | maybe we can just start using fusor | 17:59 |
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| tmckay | elmiko, meeting in #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:09 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | so, the renaming plan is to rename repos this weekend and start fixing all stuff | 19:00 |
| tmckay | okay, this is making me angry. We set up elmiko less than 24 hours ago and everything was fine. Now, I try to setup horizon on master and http://fpaste.org/83086/13093813/ | 19:01 |
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| tmckay | anybody know how to fix this? | 19:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | we'll make it step by step by adding aliases every where to unblock the gate | 19:01 |
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| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, will you email the list w/ the current plan and where folks are already committed to do work? | 19:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, yup, I'll finish the plan tomorrow morning | 19:02 |
| mattf | what's the draft plan? | 19:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm taking all work on non-savanna internal resources like infra and etc. and I'd like to ask folks to help with renaming of internals itself | 19:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, I need to discuss to infra and qa teams how to make it better to not break our gating and make it safer and faster | 19:03 |
| mattf | yes please | 19:03 |
| mattf | $ git grep -i savanna | wc -l | 19:04 |
| mattf | 6790 | 19:04 |
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| mattf | ^^ savanna.git | 19:04 |
| mattf | $ git grep -i savanna | wc -l | 19:04 |
| mattf | 202 | 19:04 |
| mattf | ^^ python-savannaclient.git | 19:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | but the draft plan is too start from renaming repos/packages and adding aliases to be backward compatible, than commit new names usage to all external projects and start removing aliases | 19:04 |
| mattf | $ git grep -i savanna | wc -l | 19:04 |
| mattf | 563 | 19:04 |
| mattf | savanna-dashboard | 19:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, most of them are imports | 19:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | grep -v import | 19:05 |
| mattf | so that's important, if we can hold off on changing module structure -> less pre-grad work | 19:05 |
| elmiko | tangental to this, is there a policy in place regarding proposing changes to the documentation on readthedocs? | 19:06 |
| mattf | we'll have things like SAVANNA_USE_NEUTRON, which maybe shouldn't become SAHARA_USE_NEUTRON | 19:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, we'll keep both in Icehouse I think | 19:07 |
| mattf | maybe readthedocs should just be taken down | 19:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, rtfd is actual for keeping docs for 0.3 | 19:07 |
| elmiko | i only ask because we will need to change references there, and while i was reading the docs on monday i noted some areas that could use a little attention in regards to small grammar changes | 19:07 |
| mattf | that's another question on scope. does it cover history or only from here on out. | 19:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I think that we should probably keep all endpoints names in Savanna too, need to clarify | 19:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, docs/source in savanna repo is a source for our docs site | 19:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, really appreciate any improvements for docs | 19:08 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov, ok, so i would follow standard practice for changes then? | 19:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, exactly | 19:09 |
| elmiko | ty | 19:09 |
| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, how long are you expecting the rename to take? | 19:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, ~1w | 19:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, with ability to postpone first rc for a week too | 19:12 |
| mattf | across how many people? | 19:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | several volunteers are really appreciate, to make internal renaming change per repo will be enough | 19:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I don't see any big issues atm | 19:14 |
| mattf | what do you mean "to make internal renaming change per repo will be enough"? | 19:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | rename package, endpoints and add aliases into the code | 19:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | in each repo | 19:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'll talk with some folks tonight to collect feedback on this topic | 19:15 |
| mattf | ok, what we need is a list of the minimum changes required. we can expand from that. doing it all in 1 wk is risky imho | 19:15 |
| mattf | if we can rename repo/tarball/gate and go out w/ everyone else for rc1 that'd be nice. we can delete the nasty-savanna-ness from inside the code over the next month+. | 19:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Lazarev proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Fixed reference errors in docs https://review.openstack.org/78789 | 22:04 |
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