Monday, 2013-11-18

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openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Replace unicode() with six.text_type()  https://review.openstack.org/5689910:41
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/savanna: Fix style errors and upgrade hacking  https://review.openstack.org/5640514:58
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/savanna: Remove check already released in hacking 0.8.0  https://review.openstack.org/5656814:58
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/savanna: Replace unicode() with six.text_type()  https://review.openstack.org/5689915:08
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openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Hacking contains all needed requirements  https://review.openstack.org/5653115:27
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/savanna: Hacking contains all needed requirements  https://review.openstack.org/5653115:42
openstackgerritVadim Rovachev proposed a change to openstack/savanna-dashboard: Added EDP tests  https://review.openstack.org/5623515:55
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openstackgerritSergey Reshetnyak proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Fix getting hidden vanilla plugin parameters  https://review.openstack.org/5697516:13
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openstackgerritVadim Rovachev proposed a change to openstack/savanna-dashboard: Added EDP tests  https://review.openstack.org/5623516:20
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openstackgerritVadim Rovachev proposed a change to openstack/savanna-dashboard: Added EDP tests  https://review.openstack.org/5623516:31
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openstackgerritJonathan Maron proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Enable EDP with HDP plugin  https://review.openstack.org/5627419:53
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openstackgerritChad Roberts proposed a change to openstack/savanna-dashboard: Adding mains and libs to job details view  https://review.openstack.org/5703019:56
dcIs this the proper place to discuss Savanna's swift integration with hadoop?19:56
crobertsrhdc:  Yes, this would be a fine place.19:57
dccrobertsrh: thank you. With the whole swift & hadoop integration, was swift meant to replace hdfs or work along side it?19:58
crobertsrhI think it's meant to work alongside it, but I'm far from the definitive expert on that.  Hopefully, someone else can chime in here.20:00
mattfi wonder if we can get stevel over here too20:00
mattfit's kinda late in the day for him though20:00
mattfdc, the idea is to use swift as the source of the MR input and destination for the MR output20:01
mattfdc, it's similar functionality to what you'll find in AWS's EC2 + S3 integration20:01
dcmattf: All, please excuse my ignorance as this is new to me. If Swift and Hadoop are used together, what would be a use case of when an object would be stored in swift as compared to the hdfs?20:03
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dc_sorry..I lost my connection to the cat so I will repost my question20:05
mattfdc_, still there?20:05
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mattfwe're mostly providing the tools to build up interesting uses cases. we've currently provided an EMR-like workflow that allows you to store input&output in swift20:06
dc_mattf: Please pardon my ignorance...if Swift and hdfs are to be used together, what is the use case of when to store an object in Swift instead of the hdfs and vice versa?20:06
mattfthe next version should support in/out in hdfs20:06
mattfthe main case i see perssuring this is intermediate data in hdfs. i.e. MR-job0 -> MR-job1 etc where the input to job0 comes from swift and the output on job1 may go to swift.20:07
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mattfdc_, ^^20:09
dc_mattf: It took me some time but I think I got my hadoop and swift integrated. I ran the command on my hadoop single node cluster : hadoop distcp hdfs://localhost:53410/app/hadoop/tmp/core-site.xml swift://opencloudservices.swift/temp20:09
dc_and I saw the core-site.xml on my swift cluster20:10
mattfthat's promising. are you having issues w/ swift via edp?20:10
dc_mattf: edp?20:11
dc_mattf: endpoint?20:11
mattf"elastic data processing" it's the feature we're we implemented elastic mapreduce-like functionality20:11
mattfdc_, what are you trying to do?20:11
dc_mattf: I just was trying to see if I could get an object copied from hdfs into the swift cluster.20:12
mattfglad it worked then!20:13
dc_mattf: I'm hoping that once the functionality is there that people can program around placing objects in swift. I hope that makes sense. I'm just a sysadmin :(20:13
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dc_mattf: If you don't mind me asking this...what are the benefits of using swift instead of hdfs? Is it cheaper?20:14
mattfsince the swift plugin uses the standard distributedfilesystem api in hadoop, it should be transparent to folks. they just have to use the correct uri.20:14
mattfdc_, if you have a persistent cluster w/ hdfs the benefit may be small for you. you may store relatively static datasets in swift for sharing across multiple hadoop clusters20:15
dc_mattf: what do you mean exactly by "persistent cluster with hdfs"?20:17
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mattfdc_, say you start a cluster w/ savanna and let multiple people run jobs on it. alternatively, and which is typical now, you have a cluster started for each job you want to run.20:18
dc_mattf: Thanks alot..Have you worked on the Savanna project?20:19
mattfdc_, i'm definitely helping out here, yes20:20
dc_mattf: I can tell..You definitely know your stuff.20:21
dc_Thanks again20:21
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mattfdc_, my pleasure. lots of folks here to help.20:22
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