Wednesday, 2016-08-17

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openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack/packstack: Use pre-cached images for tests (or pre-cache prior to testing)
dmsimard^ should improve reliability of Packstack jobs and avoid the dreadful cirros image download errors00:31
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imcsk8dmsimard: checking00:46
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imcsk8dmsimard: the patch seems ok, i'll merge it00:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/packstack: Use pre-cached images for tests (or pre-cache prior to testing)
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rdogerritSteve Baker created openstack/heat-distgit: Add missing python clients
rdogerritSteve Baker created openstack/heat-distgit: Add test deps to python-heat-tests
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jpenagood morning07:23
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amoralejgood morning07:26
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openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/packstack: Increase neutron timeout in nova.conf
chandankumardmellado, jpena number80 amoralej \o/08:41
dmelladohey chandankumar08:41
* dmellado is still going thru the emails, damn xD08:42
chandankumardmellado, May i pm you?08:47
dmelladochandankumar: sure! no need to ask!:D08:48
dmelladoI was replying an email which would be related to you anyway, so great xD08:48
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rdogerrithguemar created openstack/cinderclient-distgit: Add python3 subpackage
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dmelladoamoralej: jpena I put up some comments here
dmelladofor the meeting this afternoon, feel free to check them if you've some time10:39
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rdogerritJavier Peña created DLRN: Handle the case where a source branch is changed
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rdogerritMerged openstack/cinderclient-distgit: Add python3 subpackage
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kbsinghwhen i do a 'openstck server create' - i end up with the hostname set to whatever i said was the name of instance13:05
kbsinghwhat I'd rather have is the fqdn that maps to the rdns for the ip that the instance gets13:05
kbsinghwhats the best way to get to that point ?13:05
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jpenakbsingh: you'll need to use some cloud-init script to do that, let me try to find a link13:22
ayoungI take it Bug Triage is a dead topic?13:22
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ayoungkbsingh, I can help!13:23
ayounglet me check...13:23
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ayoung  was when I was complaining about it13:24
ayoung    has an example13:25
ayoungbut you would have to do the rdns query yourself13:25
jpena has an example if you want to set it on the first boot13:25
ayoungkbsingh, plus, if you are doing floating IP addresses, the VM won't even know its own IP address13:26
kbsinghayoung: wow, thats a big hammer - but i cant get rid of cloud-init since i still need all the contextualisation it gives me ( plus on atomic host its not possible to drop it completely )13:26
ayoungkbsingh, I know, look at the responses13:26
ayoungthere were better options posted there13:26
kbsinghalso, i dont know ahead of time what the hostname is or should be, the ip is delivered via dhcp, and i just want it to use the rdns for the ip13:26
* kbsingh keeps reading13:27
kbsinghayoung: so the comments seem to say influence cloud-init to set it, but i dont know what its goign to be ahead of time13:28
ayoungkbsingh, Do you really want the hostname to vary depending on the DHCP ip address?  I tend to want them to be somewhat reliable13:28
kbsinghayoung: yeah, i need/want ip -> dns -> rdns -> ip13:28
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kbsinghjpena: i can try that..13:29
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ayoungkbsingh, you are not the only one
openstackLaunchpad bug 1175211 in neutron "quantum DNS name does not match VM hostname" [Low,Fix released] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)13:30
ayoungan d yes, that was back when it was QUantum...13:30
ayoungkbsingh, so, if I understand it right, Nova generates the hostname, passes it to Neutron, and Neutron returns that in the DHCP response13:32
ayoungMy guess, then, would be that it is a Nova config option, not something an end use can effect.13:32
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ayoungbut it seems to be getting the hostname from DNS13:33
ayounger, from DHCP13:33
kbsingh[root@kb-os1 ~]# host domain name pointer
kbsingh[root@kb-os1 ~]# hostname13:33
kbsinghso, i in this case I would have wanted the hostname to be
kbsinghhostname -f => kb-os1.openstacklocal13:34
kbsingh is now neutron is presently setup13:35
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ayoungkbsingh, out of curiosity, why?  Wouldn't you rather push a DNS update based on the hosts "good" name?13:36
ayoungOr do you not have that as an option?13:36
kbsinghhow do you mean ?13:36
kbsinghin this case, I am deploying say 100 VM's - and once they are up, there are various things that get setup inside there, and i want all their internal content / config / their signals and workers etc to all map to hostname:ip to be resolveable either way13:37
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ayoungkbsingh, right, so, here is how we are tackling it:13:45
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ayoungkbsingh, we are using FreeIPA, and creating an entry in the server prior to host create13:45
ayounglet me rephrase that13:45
ayoungwe are doing an ipa host-create prior to openstack server create13:46
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ayoungwe pass the OTP generated in the host create to the server, and it will self register13:46
ayoungthere is some work going on in Upstream Nova to allow us to automate that, should be in Newton13:46
ayoungThe host-create adds an entry to DNS13:47
ayoungand the DHCP server value for the network is the IPA server13:47
kbsinghayoung: thats an interesting take on things13:47
* kbsingh ponders13:47
ayoungkbsingh, we need to set the Hostname, and use that for everything, especially security concerns13:47
ayoungKerberos is, in particular, very FQDN centric13:48
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kbsinghsmells of complexity13:53
amoralejkbsingh, you could disable the hostname module from cloud-init and pass your own script in user-data to set it based on the ip the instance received13:55
ayoungkbsingh, the complexity you smell is the problem set, not the solution13:55
rdogerritMerged openstack/heat-distgit: Add missing python clients
dmsimardamoralej, jpena: imcsk8 was a bit quick on the trigger, I wanted to hear what you thought about
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ayoungkbsingh, anyway, we are working on making that more streamlined in the future, but there are many ways to tackle it.  DNSaaS/Designate might be a better fit for your use case13:56
amoraleji like it dmsimard, we've been having errors while downloading uec images in packstack ci13:57
jpenadmsimard: it looks good to me, I had a look at it this morning13:57
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amoralejsurprisingly, it seems failure rates downloading uec image is much higher in upstream gate ci in packstack that in rdo-ci13:57
dmsimardamoralej: I got frustrated yesterday because it kept happening in review.rdo gate (not ci.centos, weirdo reviews in review.rdoproject)13:58
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amoralejyou have my +1 on it :)13:58
ayoungand my bow13:59
jpenaand my axe!13:59
ayoungThere we GO!13:59
jpenanumber80: speaking of something different, the upstream patch to oslo.vmware didn't work well (/me lacked understanding of the test). We can fix it with another small patch to suds14:00
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dmsimardtristanC: are you still around ?14:01
jpenanumber80 ->
number80jpena: ack14:02
jpenawe have the weekly RDO meeting in less than 1 hour, please add items to the agenda at
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number80jpena: isn't this patch a noop ?14:04
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jpenanumber80: yes, it doesn't change behaviour, but uses the same "download" method that is monkey patched by the oslo.vmware tests14:04
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number80jpena: oh14:05
jpenado you know a way to do conditional monkey patching, btw?14:05
jpenasomething like "if is not present, @mock('')14:05
dmsimardfbo, tristanC: I added a comment to after experimenting with it with pabelanger yesterday14:05
dmsimardfbo, tristanC: I'd like to know what's the clean way to cherry-pick to avoid it being overwritten14:06
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number80jpena: building14:08
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dmelladodmsimard: yo14:09
dmsimarddmellado: oy14:09
dmelladothat means today, misspelled14:09
dmelladoyou'll have to try harder for bcn14:09
dmsimarddmellado: it's more like ahoy14:09
dmsimarddmellado: a pirate hello14:09
number80or czech14:10
dmsimardAHOY MATEY14:10
dmelladodmsimard: should I call you lechuck? xD14:10
dmsimardwhat's that mean :(14:10
pabelangerdmsimard: great14:10
dmelladono offesne intended xD14:10
number80you need 3 words in czech: ahoj, pivo and kote14:10
dmsimarddmellado: I really don't know what that means so yeah :p14:11
dmelladonumber80: I'm missing two14:11
dmelladoI know only pivo14:11
dmelladoand for no reason also divadlo and jizdenku14:11
hewbroccanumber80: kote??14:11
number80dmellado: ahoj == hello, kote == kitten14:11
hewbroccaahh, kotě14:11
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number80yeah, can't type all diacritics :)14:12
dmelladoczeck looked like a really difficult language14:12
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number80it's easy, you just need to order pivo and five minutes later, you can understand whatever people are saying14:12
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hewbroccaI thought it was just hard for English speakers14:14
hewbroccabut apparently it is also really hard for Russians14:15
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number80for latin-languages speakers, it's hard too14:16
number80well, any language past the rhein is hard for me14:17
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rdogerritMerged openstack/heat-distgit: Add test deps to python-heat-tests
rdogerritMerged openstack/gnocchi-distgit: Changing license type.
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jpenadmellado: I think dmsimard is too young for "The Secret of Monkey Island" :P14:18
dmsimardI'll take that as a compliment :)14:18
jpenadmsimard ->
dmsimardAh, nope. Never heard of it.14:20
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weshaydmsimard, think I answered all the questions you had w/ code comments
weshaythanks for the review14:32
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openstackgerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/packstack: Include SSL cert parameters even for existing CACERT files
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dmelladojpena: I'm young too, I just like the classics xD14:43
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jpenameeting time?15:00
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rbowenThere you go. :-)15:00
jpena#startmeeting RDO meeting - 2016-08-1715:00
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jpena#topic roll call15:00
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jpena#chair rbowen dmellado15:01
zodbotCurrent chairs: dmellado jpena rbowen15:01
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jpena#chair tosky coolsvap myoung15:01
openstackCurrent chairs: coolsvap dmellado jpena myoung rbowen tosky15:01
zodbotCurrent chairs: coolsvap dmellado jpena myoung rbowen tosky15:01
jpena#chair amoralej15:01
zodbotCurrent chairs: amoralej coolsvap dmellado jpena myoung rbowen tosky15:01
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej coolsvap dmellado jpena myoung rbowen tosky15:01
jpenadmsimard, jruzicka, around?15:02
jpena#chair jschlueter15:02
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej coolsvap dmellado jpena jschlueter myoung rbowen tosky15:02
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jpena#chair weshay number8015:03
zodbotCurrent chairs: amoralej coolsvap dmellado jpena jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen tosky weshay15:03
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej coolsvap dmellado jpena jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen tosky weshay15:03
jpena#chair jjoyce15:03
zodbotCurrent chairs: amoralej coolsvap dmellado jjoyce jpena jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen tosky weshay15:03
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jpena#chair dmsimard15:04
zodbotCurrent chairs: amoralej coolsvap dmellado dmsimard jjoyce jpena jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen tosky weshay15:04
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej coolsvap dmellado dmsimard jjoyce jpena jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen tosky weshay15:04
number80I guess we can start15:04
jpena#chair dhellmann15:04
zodbotCurrent chairs: amoralej coolsvap dhellmann dmellado dmsimard jjoyce jpena jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen tosky weshay15:04
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej coolsvap dhellmann dmellado dmsimard jjoyce jpena jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen tosky weshay15:04
jpenaok, let's go15:04
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jpena#topic RDO Stable Mitaka is broken, please can it be given some love15:04
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number80Mitaka and galera?15:05
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number80we should be using only mariadb15:05
jpena#link bug 1365884 in openstack-tripleo "MySQL Galera fails to start" [High,New] - Assigned to jslagle15:07
jpenathat is the referenced bug15:07
number80galera is deprecated15:07
hewbroccanumber80: mysql is deprecated, but not Galera surely?15:07
hewbrocca(we should be using PostgreSQL, but that's a whole other argument)15:07
number80hewbrocca: galera is now included in mariadb 10.1, galera standalone is deprecated15:07
weshayci has the to-do to add a job that exercises overcloud-image-build afaict15:07
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jruzickajpena, my conn dropped, I was really confused :D15:07
jruzickasending messages into the void15:07
jpenabased on the bug comments, it looks like the issue can be related to having EPEL enabled15:07
jpena#chair jruzicka hrybacki15:08
zodbotCurrent chairs: amoralej coolsvap dhellmann dmellado dmsimard hrybacki jjoyce jpena jruzicka jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen tosky weshay15:08
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weshayon fire15:08
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imcsk8jpena: o/15:08
jruzickapostgres ftw :-p15:08
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jpena#chair imcsk815:09
zodbotCurrent chairs: amoralej coolsvap dhellmann dmellado dmsimard hrybacki imcsk8 jjoyce jpena jruzicka jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen tosky weshay15:09
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jpenaso, who could have a look at this? I see ggillies was also affected15:09
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number80"This is a problem because python-openstackclient forces epel to be enabled, even though it shouldn't be (reason being something to do with diskimage-builder)."15:10
number80I'm curious of why EPEL is required for python-openstackclient15:10
jruzickahmm I wonder :)15:10
* jpena too15:10
number80it should not depends on dib15:10
* number80 looking15:10
jruzickait requires yggdrassil of dependencies15:10
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number80is the reporter around?15:12
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* number80 guesses that ggillies is likely sleeping at this hour15:12
dmelladomost probably15:12
number80I can't find how dib gets pulled by osc15:13
dhellmannI don't see it as a dependency upstream. Is that something to do with the way the RPM packages are defined?15:14
dmsimardI don't want to sidetrack the meeting too much, but that topic reminds me that RDO still has a branding issue - I've posted about that on the ML before. I hate to see "Mitaka RDO stable is broken" while really it's an issue isolated to a specific installer or use case.15:14
dmsimard /rant15:15
number80dhellmann: likely, but dnf repoquery --requires python-openstackclient shows nothing special (only oslo and openstack clients)15:15
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jpenathe reporter mentions this: "This is using current mitaka stable images. Nightly delorean images do not exhibit this problem.". Maybe we just need to update the images?15:16
dhellmannnumber80 : yeah, that's more or less what I would expect to see15:16
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number80jpena: I agree, we should reassign it to 3o folks15:17
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* number80 asks who's trown backup?15:18
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jpenaactually, the bug is assigned to the openstack-tripleo component, we just need someone to take the ball15:18
jruzickaSo TripleO image is broken, not Mitaka RDO if I understand it correctly?15:19
jpenajruzicka: correct15:19
jpenato avoid spending more time on this topic, I propose we poke someone at #tripleo after the meeting and ask for help15:20
jruzicka#info TripleO image is broken, not Mitaka RDO15:20
weshaythat has rebuilt several times over the last few days, we'll have to recheck it15:20
adarazsnumber80: btw I'm trown's backup for the RDO promotion jobs. (/me just started reading)15:21
number80oh cool15:21
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number80#action adarazs will investigate 136588415:22
jpenalet's move on then!15:22
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jpena#topic DLRN, symlinks and CDN15:22
jpenadmsimard, the stage is yours15:23
dmsimardoh hi15:23
dmsimardlet me gather my thoughts for a sec15:23
dmsimardso, this is mostly about CI purposes -- right now we have two custom symlinks that are managed by CI: current-tripleo and current-passed-ci15:24
dmsimardThese CIs have effectively different purposes and also different criterias (coverage/testing) for promotion15:24
adarazsafazekas: this might be interesting for you ^15:25
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dmsimardThere are different initiatives under way to have extended coverage, although with different criterias15:25
dmsimardAn example is around testing quickstart from whatever tripleo-ci has promoted last15:25
dmsimardAnother example would be to run puppet-openstack CI (which has statistically been the most successful CI so far) and hold a symlink'd reference for it's promotion15:25
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dmsimardRight now current-passed-ci and current-triple do not really exist on the trunk.rdo instance, they are redirects to buildlogs15:26
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dmsimardI don't want to get into a debate around the usefulness (or lack thereof) of the CDN *right now* but I want to discuss how we could make it possible to maintain different symlinks in a way that wouldn't be hacky or awkward.15:27
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jpenafrom the DLRN point of view, we could simply synchronize additional links if needed15:28
jruzickadmsimard, you have some idea I assume?15:28
jpenajust like we do with consistent or current15:28
dmsimardI've argued before that repository promotions could be done client-side (like p-o-i is doing right now )15:29
jpenaif we do so, they'll show up at the public server, and won't be synced to the CDN unless we think it's needed15:29
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dmsimardand in fact, client-side promotions are really cool because then it means we don't have to maintain anything on our end and each CI is self sufficient15:29
dmsimardhowever, projects like tripleoci and puppet-openstack are limited in how/when they can run such jobs (upstream imposes a limit of once per 24hrs on periodic jobs)15:30
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amoralejare those links only useful for CIs?15:30
dmsimardthe links are used to track whatever repository has worked last for a particular CI pipeline, yes15:30
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dmsimardjpena: I really don't want to see this in the dlrn code15:30
pabelangerdmsimard: that could change with 3rdparty CI now, it wouldn't be had to add a new pipeline into to do it15:30
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dmsimardjpena: can you imagine maintaining ['current-passed-ci', 'current-tripleo', 'current-something'] right in the dlrn code? Ugly! A standalone cron, maybe ? I don't know..15:32
dmsimardpabelanger: what do you mean, the periodic limit ?15:32
jruzickadefinitely don't want that in dlrn15:32
jpenadmsimard: we could make it a configurable option in projects.ini, but yes, it's still hard to maintain15:32
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* jschlueter agrees dlrn is not the place to maintain that15:33
jruzickastand alone config repo a la rdoinfo?15:33
dmsimardpabelanger: I proposed a dirty, dirty cheat.. which would be to have a periodic job (on the RDO side) that would create a review on review.o.o with a repository promotion (like the one the proposal bot is doing)15:33
dmsimardpabelanger: every 6 hours, for example.. which would override the periodic limit15:34
jpenadmsimard: the Puppet CI is doing something similar, isn't it?15:34
pabelangerdmsimard: I'd need to better understand why you are using periodic, but the promotion could be driving my have puppet-openstack merges code upstream15:34
pabelangerwe can talk more after the meeting15:35
dmsimardjpena: it's a periodic upstream job that runs once every 24hrs15:35
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dmsimardjpena: see proposal bot reviews in
jpenaany action then?15:36
dmsimardbut anyway, we probably don't need to choose a definitive solution right here in the meeting but we're going to need a way to expose symlinks.. I'm not a fan of symlinks fwiw, I turned down EmilienM when he asked for one and he came up with his promotion client side15:36
weshaysshnaidm, ^15:36
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dmsimardjpena: if you're okay with it, I can take an action to craft a rsync cron that'd just synchronize the symlink targets15:37
dmsimardcan submit it through puppet-dlrn or something15:37
weshaypabelanger, dmsimard please invite me to that discussion15:37
jpenadmsimard: ok, that's an option15:37
myoungplease rope me in as well, I have downstream jobs that are interested in the links...15:38
pabelangerdmsimard: FWIW: that promotion could happen in the post pipeline on every commit for puppet-openstack, other projects do that. eg: openstack/requirements15:38
dmsimard#action dmsimard to explore a solution to expose custom symlinks on the public instance15:38
jpenalet's move then to the next topic, still a lot to discuss15:38
weshaythat will help getting things more to be more transparent15:38
jpena#topic Tempest packaging15:39
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jpenathis was discussed last week, but we postponed any action until dmellado was back15:39
dmelladoo/ I'm here15:39
dmsimardThere's a couple things wrong with openstack-tempest15:39
dmelladoso I was reading the option about having tempest-downstream and tempest-vanilla15:39
dmsimardfrom my perspective, 1) it installs every plugins (it shouldn't) 2) it's packaged from downstream15:40
dmelladofirst of all, tbh is that I wouldn't package it, but counting that as a given15:40
weshayeggmaster, ^15:40
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dmelladodmsimard: but if the entry points for the tests are installed by the XXX package15:40
dmelladohow would you then make it work?15:40
dmelladoupstream, we do isolate that behavior by using venvs15:41
dmelladobut that's not a way to go when rpm'ing15:41
number80dmsimard: 1. can be solved by adding a tempest-all subpackage that will requires all plugins (for people who wants old behaviour)15:41
toskydmsimard: unfortunately we can't use reccomends in RPM15:41
dmsimardnumber80: the old behavior is stupid15:41
dmsimardYou can't install all the plugins15:41
dmsimardYou just can't15:41
dmsimardbecause it will yield a broken install out of the box15:41
dhellmannthey have incompatible dependencies?15:41
toskydmsimard: if you don't install them, tempest will explode if you have the base package for some service15:42
dmelladowhat hapens is that for different projects they do behave in a different way15:42
number80dmsimard: well, people requests it (I agree this should not be default behaviour though)15:42
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dmelladoi.e. manila requires an specific commit of tempest15:42
dmelladodhellmann: ^^15:42
dmsimardFor example, some tempest plugins are enabled by default as soon as they as installed unless explicitely disabled in tempest.conf15:42
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dhellmanndmellado : does manila require exactly that commit, or at least that commit?15:43
dmelladodmsimard: there was an upstream patch in order to skip plugins to be loaded, -2ed by mtreinish for now15:43
dmsimardThis is the case for mistral and some others, I don't have the references nearby15:43
dmelladoI'll do take a look15:43
toskydmsimard: all plugins are listed iirc; then the tests are run or not depending on tempest.conf15:43
dmelladodhellmann: *that* commit, sadly15:43
dmelladoas the api is changing, hopefully for a more stable one15:43
dhellmannok, well, that's clearly a mistral bug15:43
dmelladoyou could get some errors15:43
toskymanila is more the exception than the rule here...15:43
dhellmannsorry, manila15:43
dmsimardtosky: you'd be surprised15:43
dmelladodmsimard: another point is how to keep in track every plugin15:44
number80well, packaging here is easy to fix, but I'd like that we agree on one roadmap15:44
dmsimardtosky: if python-aodh-tests (aodh plugin) is installed, and aodh is *NOT* installed (and aodh=False in tempest.conf!) it will run the aodh tests and error out with aodh endpoint not found15:44
* number80 suggests moving that discussion on the list as now dmellado is back15:44
dmsimardtosky: turns out aodh plugin relies on another parameter which is in fact aodh_plugin=False15:44
toskydmsimard: but then it's a tempest configuration issue15:44
dmsimardtosky: but anyway, the fact is that as soon as the plugin is installed, it'll run15:45
dmsimardtosky: so how do you ship an openstack-tempest package with all plugins installed, then ?15:45
toskydmsimard: right, but if you have python-aodh installed and not python-aodh-tests, you will get an error15:45
dmsimardtosky: every plugin is different, there's no consistency15:45
number80then, we need to fix them15:45
dmelladodmsimard: the recommended behavior was to have one, out-tree repo for the plugin15:45
toskydid you try to address this on the QA community?15:45
dmelladothat would things much easier15:45
dmsimardtosky: yes15:45
dmelladobut it doesn't depend on tempest/qa15:46
dhellmannwe need to take this issue upstream, because if plugins are treating tempest like a library they need to be using released versions of tempest and we need to be tagging things more often15:46
dmelladoit depends on every project15:46
dmelladodhellmann: within tempest there's tempest.lib15:46
dmelladowhich we're on track of stabilyzing15:46
toskywhere on track == newton15:46
dmelladountil that's done, those things might happen...15:46
number80well, can someone take the action of raising this topic upstream?15:46
dhellmannyes, but if different plugins from the same release series need different versions of tempest, then we're not testing correctly upstream15:46
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number80(and also define our downstream roadmap)15:47
dmelladotosky: hopefully, I'll bring back more details from mid-cycle15:47
dmsimardtosky: tl;dr tempest has no control over plugin behavior15:47
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number80dmellado: when is mid-cycle?15:47
toskydmsimard: nothing prevents on writing more guidelines in tempest documentation and proposing a patch for the plugin15:47
dmelladonumber80: Sept 18-2215:47
toskydmsimard: it's not an infinite number, we are talking probably about less then 10 items15:47
toskya totally countable set, that can be handled15:47
number80dmellado: ack15:47
jpenaso we need to do two things if I got this correctly15:48
dmelladowe haven't still talked about the tempest config tool, that we bundle15:48
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jpenaa) Propose a roadmap for tempest packaging15:48
dmelladoand I'd say to bring it to its own repo15:48
dmelladoin order not to depend on our fork15:48
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jpenab) Identify "rogue" plugins, work with upstream to fix them15:49
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amoralejdmellado, maybe it's the tempest deployment or configuration tool the one that should be able to selectively install plugins as required15:49
amoralejwhould that make sense?15:49
dmelladoamoralej: that's not possible15:49
dmelladonot at all15:49
dmsimardSo this all started from a review which, in the meantime, is still blocked -- it prevents me from integrating puppet-designate testing in puppet-openstack-integration (and therefore adding designate to RDO testing coverage)15:50
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dmelladothe tempest plugin gets installed, if in-tree15:50
number80jpena: yes!15:50
dmsimardIt'd be great if I could finish fixing designate newton which is still completely broken15:50
dmelladowhen the package gets installed15:50
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toskydmsimard: about that review, the change you propose is a global one, but applied to a single repo15:51
dmsimardtosky: explain15:51
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dmsimardtosky: openstack-tempest is not currently installed or a requirement for any of the *-tests packages right now15:52
toskydmsimard: you are removing the dependency because some consumer could use the source repository; this is the global change we are discussing15:52
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dmelladodmsimard: tosky basically the change there is because designate is an out-tree plugin15:52
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dmsimardultimately the problem is not the source repository, it's the fact that openstack-tempest installs every plugin of which some are hardcoded to be enabled by default15:52
dmelladoand it would fetch tempest for run15:52
jruzickarunning out of time15:53
dmsimardopenstack-tempest by itself would likely not break anything15:53
dhellmanndmsimard : can we change the plugins upstream to all use a config option to enable them?15:53
jpenatrying to be time-conscious, we've got 7 minutes and we should get some action, then complete the agenda15:53
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dmelladojpena: should we move this to the ML15:53
dmelladowe're still far from completion15:53
jpenadmellado: agreed15:53
dmsimarddhellmann: It's in the realm of possibilities, eys15:53
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jpenadmellado: will you restart the email thread?15:53
dhellmannso that seems like a good thing to start working on, at the same time as dealing with the inverted dependency issue15:54
dmelladoI'll reply to the last one and bring it back, yes15:54
jpena#action dmellado to restart the Tempest packaging thread15:54
jpenathx :)15:54
jpena#topic reviews needing eyes15:54
jpenajruzicka needs eyes to review a couple rdopkg changes15:54
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* number80 is looking at #184715:55
jruzickayeah just look at the etherpad and review if you feel like it15:55
number80as for rpm-python, I'm out of ideas :)15:55
jruzickawith the second one I don't know howto proceed15:55
jruzickakick in any direction would be welcomed15:55
number80except using a virtualenv with access to system packages15:55
jruzickaor writing a pure python rpm module15:56
jruzicka(that wouldn't suck)15:56
number80jruzicka: that's something that would be great15:56
jruzickaa man can dream...15:56
jpena#topic CentOS Cloud SIG meetings (Thursday, 15:00 UTC)15:57
rbowenWe have basically not had a CentOS Cloud SIG meeting for 2 months.15:57
rbowenPart of this is because of travel/summer/whatever. I also have a standing conflict with that meeting, which I'm trying to fix.15:57
rbowenBut more than that, I think it's because the Cloud SIG is just a rehash of this meeting, because only RDO is participating.15:57
rbowenOn the one hand, we don't really accomplish much in that meeting when we do have it.15:57
rbowenOn the other hand, it's a way to get RDO in front of another audience.15:57
rbowenSo, I guess I'm asking if people think it's valuable, and will try to carve out a little time for this each week.15:57
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rbowen(Hoping I don't get paste-flood-banned! ;-)15:57
number80my bad too, but I think we should work with other groups to make it more lively15:57
rbowenWithout other groups participating, it feels like a waste of time.15:58
jpenawould it make sense to merge both meetings?15:58
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rbowenjpena: It might. There's a handful of people that sometimes attend the CentOS meeting, that we could invite here.15:59
rbowenkbsingh feels, of course, that we should continue that meeting.15:59
rbowenHe's on this channel, as are several of those people15:59
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rbowenAnyways, no specific action here, but I'll bring it up on the mailing list again.16:00
jpena#topic OpenStack Summit16:00
rbowenOpenStack Summit is now roughly 2 months out.16:00
rbowenIf you want to do a demo in the RDO booth, it's time to start thinking about what you want to show.16:00
rbowenVideos are ok. Live demos are ok, if they're not too network-dependent.16:00
rbowenOr if you want to hang out in the booth and answer questions, that's also very welcomed.16:00
rbowenThe link above is the etherpad. I don't have specific time slots yet. We should have the event schedule in the next 2 weeks.16:00
rbowenYou can just indicate that you're interested, and I'll get back in touch once we have a specific schedule.16:00
number80rbowen: I have volunteers, I need to ping them again16:00
rbowenThanks to Mathieu and Wes for signing up already!16:00
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jpenaI'll sign up, too16:00
dmsimardI can probably do some booth time too16:01
jpena#action everyone interested sign up at
jpenawe're out of schedule, so quickly16:02
jpena#topic Chair for next meeting16:02
number80#action number80 chair next week16:02
number80we're already past the hour :)16:03
jpenaok, since it's past time, let's leave the open floor for after the meeting16:03
jpenathx number80 for volunteering :)16:03
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jpenathank you for attending!16:03
number80thanks jpena for chairing :)16:04
amoralejthanks for chairing jpena16:04
rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/oslo-context-distgit: python-oslo-context: failed to build 1bbe016
number80 ^16:05
number80I think we lost a snapshot16:05
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rbowenThanks, jpena16:05
amoralejI need to leave already, see you tomorrow16:06
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jpenanumber80, it happened in centos7-master-head ->
rdogerrithguemar proposed openstack/manilaclient-distgit: Add python3 subpackage
number80jpena: then, we need to fix the script because the link was incorrect16:08
jpenanumber80: let me check it, I think it's a configuration issue in the centos-master builder16:09
jpenanumber80: that's it, we had to update the baseurl field16:11
jpenait's fixed now, I'll propose an update to puppet-dlrn16:11
number80jpena: thanks!16:12
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rdogerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/oslo-context-distgit: Add python-positional as build requirement
rdogerrithguemar proposed openstack/oslo-context-distgit: Add python-positional as BR and runtime dependency
dmsimardit's a race!16:17
rdogerrithguemar proposed openstack/oslo-context-distgit: Add python-positional as build requirement
number80gerrit is a pain to revert to old patchset ...16:19
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dmsimardnumber80: I just check out a previous patchset and do review again16:23
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number80dmsimard: nope, gerrit detect, it was already pushed, you need to make changes16:27
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dmsimardhuh, I've never noticed that before16:27
* number80 just reset the author to Javier as jpena forgot to do it16:28
dmsimardI think you need to do a fake commit --amend just to change the sha1 of the commit16:28
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number80yeah, works too16:29
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jpenanumber80: I've found the reason for the CI error in . Apparently, even though the oslo.context requirements.txt file says it needs positional>=1.0.1, it really is >=1.1.116:46
jpenawe have 1.0.1 in the repo16:46
honzanumber80: any thoughts on the webpack fix & config file problem in tripleo ui packaging?16:47
ansiwennumber80: pradk mentioned you could pull python-boto3 from fedora into the rdo deps?16:48
ansiwennumber80: I have a tests which fails because of missing module botocore.exceptions16:48
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number80honza: I'm planning to look at this16:49
number80ansiwen: ack16:49
honzanumber80: ok, thanks!16:49
number80jpena: yep16:50
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number80.whoowns python-positional16:50
zodbotnumber80: hguemar16:50
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number80well technically, I'm not wrong =>
* number80 fixing it16:52
pradknumber80, we will also need python3-botocore in his case16:52
jpenanumber80: yep, I'd say it's an oslo.context bug16:52
number80pradk: in EL7?16:54
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pradknumber80, ist in fedora .. but yea we'll need it for el7 if we want to support ec2apis .. another use case thats on its way is to support S3 storage driver for gnocchi which will need this as well16:55
imcsk8jpena: is fedora-review working for you?16:55
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imcsk8i'm getting this error when i try a package review: "ERROR: Cannot find usable urls here"16:56
jpenaimcsk8: it works for me, it must be an issue with the specific bz16:56
imcsk8i've tried like three16:56
number80pradk: do you mean python2-botocore or the python3 variant?16:56
pradknumber80, yea we just need botocore and boto3.. for el7 i guess that would be python216:57
pradkin the deps repo16:58
pradkwe'll update the ec2api specs to make this a dependency for newton16:58
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rdogerritDavid Moreau Simard created config: Update list of packages to be pre-installed on WeIRDO images
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* number80 caught an ARM builder in koji17:11
number80I can make a coffee and bake some cookies before positional gets built :)17:12
rdogerritDavid Moreau Simard created config: Pre-cache cirros files for use with weirdo packstack and puppet jobs
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rdogerritMerged config: Update list of packages to be pre-installed on WeIRDO images
rdogerritPradeep Kilambi created openstack/ec2-api-distgit: Add botocore requires to ec2api
pradkansiwen, ^^17:17
rdogerritMerged config: Pre-cache cirros files for use with weirdo packstack and puppet jobs
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jruzickanumber80, nah, it's madness, we need the `venv --system-site-packages`17:23
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jruzickarpms macros are distribution shipped, it's madness to maintain another copy of that17:25
jruzickalibrpm is even available on debian17:25
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rdogerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ec2-api-distgit: Add botocore requires to ec2api
openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack/packstack: Use pre-cached images for tests (or pre-cache prior to testing)
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number80jruzicka: ack17:29
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imcsk8dmsimard: hello, i'm doing a little cleanup for packstack and found this review: is it still valid?17:37
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dmsimardyeah, I should revive that17:38
dmsimardI'll at least rebase it17:38
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dmsimardjpena: still around ?17:42
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dmsimardnumber80, weshay, jpena, myoung, adarazs: Right now, none of our CI (afaik) uses qemu-ev from the virt SIG repo. We test with the vanilla kvm.17:43
dmsimardShould we instead test with qemu-ev ? Both ?17:43
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number80dmsimard: preferably qemu-ev and if we can qemu17:46
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dmsimardnumber80: is there a particular reason we can't pull qemu-ev in RDO repos ?17:47
weshaydmsimard, let's see how it does,
weshaydmsimard, need to check if it's avail on rhel17:47
dmsimardweshay: that's not how it works17:47
dmsimardweshay: on centos you need the virt SIG repo17:47
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dmsimardqemu-ev isn't in RDO repositories17:47
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dmsimardweshay: yum -y install centos-release-virt-common17:48
dmsimardweshay: that repository is included when you install centos-release-openstack-mitaka17:48
dmsimardbut it's not if you install rdo-release.rpm17:48
dmsimardweshay: also, if the virt sig repo is installed, you don't need to explicitely install qemu-ev17:50
dmsimardweshay: because qemu-kvm-ev osboletes qemu-kvm and will always have priority17:50
dmsimardso if you have the repo installed and you install qemu-kvm, you'll actually get qemu-kvm-ev. Magic.17:51
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weshaydmsimard, k.. have a WIP commit up, will have to make sure we can do the same on RHEL17:51
dmsimardweshay: on RHEL qemu-kvm-ev comes standard, right ?17:51
weshaydmsimard, updated the jjb btw17:51
dmsimardweshay: the virt sig rebuilds from RHEL17:51
dmsimardat least if I understand correctly17:51
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weshaydmsimard, doesn't appear to be standard rhel17:52
dmsimardjschlueter: ^ do you know ?17:52
jschlueterqemu-kvm is rhel iirc and osp cross-ships qemu-kvm-rhev ... let me find builds17:54
weshayif it's not base rhel, then ooo may not be able to use it.. unless we install a centos release on rhel17:54
weshaywhich seems iffy17:54
weshaydmsimard, I like the idea of putting in rdo/delorean17:55
jschlueterqemu-kvm-1.5.3-105.el7 is base rhel-7.217:55
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weshaythat would match downstream17:55
dmsimardjschlueter: ah I though qemu-kvm-ev shipped by default. Is it mirrored by OSP directly, then ?17:55
jschlueterqemu-kvm-rhev-2.3.0-31.el7_2.13 is what is shipped with osp 9 RC17:55
dmsimardjschlueter: is qemu-kvm-rhev == qemu-kvm-ev ?17:56
* jschlueter shrugs17:56
dmsimardjschlueter: this is what the virt sig ships:
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dmsimardjschlueter: I think the important part is that the qmeu-kvm-rhev package provides qemu-kvm and obsoletes qemu-kvm17:56
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dmsimardnumber80: so back to my question, then, is there a particular reason we can't pull qemu-ev in RDO repos ?17:57
dmsimardIt'd just be a tag ? I guess ?17:58
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number80dmsimard: if you use centos-openstack-*-release you get virt sig repo enabled17:59
dmsimardnumber80: I know that. I'm talking about rdo-release.rpm and dlrn.18:00
number80rdo-release is for some reason, just RDO repo only18:00
number80and dlrn is likely an oversight18:00
dmsimardI'm not asking you to include the virt sig repo in the rpm18:00
dmsimardI'm asking about the qemu-kvm-ev packages themselves18:00
number80we can't retag them as they're shipped by virt-sig18:01
number80moreover, it's maintained by virt experts18:01
dmsimardso it'd need to be rebuilds? meh.18:01
number80nope, just retagging them to have them in RDO repo but we chose to rely on virt sig repo instead18:02
dmsimardbut it leads to trunk consumers not having -ev18:02
dmsimardarguably, what we can do is to have weirdo setup the virt sig repo18:02
dmsimardso upstream will test vanilla and rdo will test -ev18:02
dmsimardpretty sure upstream tripleo doesn't use -ev18:03
dmsimardmakes sense ?18:03
imcsk8jpena: this patch should be backported to mitaka right?
number80I would prefer that we ship the same repo in rdo-release but just disable the non-rdo ones18:04
number80it would be easy for CI tools to re-enable them18:06
dmsimardnumber80: I think rdo-release doesn't have centos-specific repositories because "in theory" it can work on fedora or RHEL18:06
number80dmsimard: yeah, but that shouldn't be a problem18:07
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rdogerritDavid Moreau Simard created rdo-infra/ansible-role-weirdo-common: Enable CentOS virt SIG repo for qemu-kvm-ev
dmsimardnumber80: /me shrugs18:09
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openstackgerritIvan Chavero proposed openstack/packstack: Create Gnocchi legacy resources
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dmsimardnumber80: doh19:04
dmsimardnumber80: the repository release package is centos-release-qemu-ev, not centos-release-virt-common19:05
dmsimardnot sure what virt-common is but it doesn't set up anything :p19:05
rdogerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed rdo-infra/ansible-role-weirdo-common: Enable CentOS virt SIG repo for qemu-kvm-ev
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danpawlikjpena, number80: if you have time pls check :)19:13
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* number80 saw all of that19:14
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EmilienMnumber80: picture!19:19
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number80EmilienM: he's crying after licking my plate (hint: sriracha) ...19:21
number80I should stop eating on coffee tables ...19:22
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: The volume for filled up rather suddenly, causing a number of jobs to fail with a POST_FAILURE result and no logs; we're manually expiring some logs now to buy breathing room, but any changes which hit that in the past few minutes will need to be rechecked and/or approved again19:46
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dmsimardnumber80: hmm, latest patchset from works for Packstack but not for Puppet20:04
dmsimardMaybe there is another virtual package issue again ?20:04
dmsimardPackstack explicitely installs it if it's available (which it shouldn't, it should rely on the obsoletes from qemu-kvm-ev)20:04
weshaydmsimard, we ready for ?20:06
weshaymaybe by tomorrow before 12pm20:07
dmsimardI'll wrap up what I'm doing and I'll have a last look20:07
weshaycool thanks20:07
EmilienM"it works in packstack" :P20:07
dmsimardEmilienM: well it's more like "it doesn't work in puppet"20:11
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dmsimardprobably because of that virtual packaging stuff again20:11
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dmsimardEmilienM: if the virt sig repo is enabled and I type, with my hands, "yum install qemu-kvm", it wants to install qemu-kvm-ev because qemu-kvm-ev obsoletes qemu-kvm:
number80dmsimard: no idea, but OSP has not experienced that issue20:12
dmsimardbut, you know, puppet is special20:12
dmsimardnumber80: probably because there is not two versions of KVM competing20:13
number80actually, there is20:13
EmilienMwe are very special20:13
EmilienMand modestly awesome20:14
dmsimardEmilienM: is that "special" or special? :p20:14
EmilienMboth actually20:14
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number80qemu-kvm-rhev is only available in specific channels, base has only qemu-kvm20:14
number80so OSP should have both20:14
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dmsimardmaybe there's something weird going on20:17
dmsimardpuppet apply -e "package { 'qemu-kvm': ensure => present }" works and installs qemu-kvm-ev20:17
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EmilienMok so stop trolling ! :P20:17
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number80Triple Owl => Trip Ool => Troll20:19
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dmsimardEmilienM: this isn't very clean :(
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number80well, it's working with raw puppet-modules, packstack, one can assume that 3o is trolling us20:20
dmsimardnumber80: I'm digging20:20
EmilienMdmsimard: why?20:21
dmsimardEmilienM: well it /feels/ hacky20:22
dmsimardsort of weird to put the libvirt_daemon_package_prefix parameter in params if the variable doesn't exist in debian20:23
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dmsimardand it's the only place it's used20:23
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dmsimardEmilienM: wait, what? Why is this qemu ?
dmsimardWhy isn't it kvm ?20:27
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EmilienMare you yelling at me?20:28
dmsimardNo ?20:28
dmsimardA genuine question.20:28
EmilienMI am not sure if all OpenStack nodepool nodes are able to run nested virt20:28
EmilienMwith kvm20:29
EmilienMdmsimard: :P I know20:29
dmsimardEmilienM: afaik no problem to use KVM with packstack in upstream gate20:29
dmsimardEmilienM: surely upstream tests kvm somewhere ?20:29
* dmsimard gasps20:29
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EmilienMlet me check too20:30
EmilienMwe can change it !20:30
dmsimarddevstack has virt_type = qemu20:31
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dmsimardThis is nuts20:36
dmsimardNo one is testing OpenStack with KVM upstream20:36
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dmsimardwait, even Packstack has virt_type = qemu20:38
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miscyou should stop doing that to your desk, it doesn't seems safe20:41
rdogerritMerged openstack/oslo-context-distgit: Add python-positional as build requirement
dmsimardso the best part of this is20:42
dmsimardPackstack will install kvm anyway20:43
dmsimardeven if it's going to be using qemu20:43
dmsimardThis feels like all over again20:44
dmsimardbut, anyway, what this means is that packstack will magically use kvm in ci.centos (because it detects bare metal) and puppet-openstack will keep on using qemu cause it's hardcoded20:45
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dmsimardnumber80: interesting✓&query=deb20:51
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number80dmsimard: we did offer to donate openstack-packages namespace for that20:53
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dmsimard15 pages of repos20:53
dmsimardjust for deb packaging20:53
dmsimardaround 20 packages per page20:54
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pabelangerdmsimard: number80: yes, we landed the patch to import them today21:06
pabelangernow that the packaging pipeline for deb-packaging teams is done, they are ready to start producing packages21:07
dmsimardpabelanger: that's fair, it's just a lot of repositories :)21:07
pabelangerYup, cheap to manage when automated :D21:07
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dmsimardnumber80: still around ?21:49
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rdobot[sensu] NEW: - check-delorean-newton-head-current @ |#| Build failure on centos7-master-head/current: oslo.context:
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openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack/packstack: No longer define libvirt_cpu_mode
openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack/packstack: Improve default hypervisor config, make hypervisor configurable
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openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack/packstack: Improve default hypervisor config, make hypervisor configurable
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openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack/packstack: Improve default hypervisor config, make hypervisor configurable
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dmsimardsorry for the spam.22:30
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dmsimardimcsk8: don't approve too quickly please :P22:33
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dmsimardimcsk8: want the opinion of jpena and amoralej on these22:33
dmsimardimcsk8: that patch also needs to be tested on bare metal before we give it the green light22:34
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dmsimardI will test it22:34
imcsk8i don't have bare metal available but i'll test it using VM's22:34
dmsimardI have a hook in weirdo to test patches in review now22:34
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dmsimardimcsk8: for example:
dmsimardwell, err,
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imcsk8dmsimard: all ansible right?22:42
dmsimardweirdo runs ansible, yes22:43
number80is anyone near SF?22:44
dmsimardSF, like, San Francisco ?22:45
number80yep, but just saw that I can't transfer my complimentary ticket for the github conference22:46
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number80I should look at relocating temporarily there22:47
miscnumber80: so you were also refused there :p ?22:48
number80misc: yep22:48
number80well, I'm sad that I can't attend Burning Man this year22:49
miscyou weren't able last year too22:49
miscand the year before22:49
number80Well, I intend to go before I get burdened with kids and all22:50
miscfollow aurelien to his spanish equivalent of burning man22:51
number80well, I need to enjoy the real thing or else I'll regret it :)22:53
number80well, that's also a good excuse not to have kids too22:54
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openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack/packstack: Improve default hypervisor config, make hypervisor configurable
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rdogerritSteve Baker created DLRN: Fix docs typo
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