Monday, 2016-06-27

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lbragstaddolphm dstanek is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324055/ something we should but on the OSIC Focus etherpad?13:38
lbragstadIt's certainly something that we would probably have to tackle for newton, but i'm not sure we should add it to the etherpad since it's already in the spec review process?13:39
kencjohnstongood morning!13:40
lbragstadkencjohnston o/ mornin'13:42
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dstaneklbragstad: since that spec isn't approved i would suspect that it would most be punted to O13:44
dstanekkencjohnston: o/ good morning13:44
lbragstaddstanek yeah - that's kind of what I was thinking, too13:45
lbragstaddstanek i'm trying to see what we can to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OSIC_Ocata_OSIC_Focus_Brainstorm13:45
dstaneklbragstad: the database upgrade stuf would likely be O13:46
lbragstaddstanek oh - good point13:46
lbragstadthat would be a good thing to focus on in Ocata13:46
lbragstadcc dolphm ^13:46
lbragstaddstanek can you think of anything else?13:46
dstaneklbragstad: i want to talk about the SAML stuff at the mid cycle now that i can show what it will look like - that's likely an O thing as well13:47
lbragstaddstanek ++13:47
lbragstaddstanek do you remember that discussion we had about refactoring keystone to build driver class instances per request with a single context?13:48
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dstaneklbragstad: sorta13:48
lbragstaddstanek is that something we still want to pursue? Instead of reading a user from the database 8 times in a single request?13:49
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dstanekthat would be a good mid cycle conversation, but i don't know that we can commit to having something for O13:49
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lbragstaddstanek I've always been curious to work on that - in order to improve reading everything from the database all the time13:50
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dstaneklbragstad: i have some experimental stuff that moves us in that direction, but we need to talk more about the architecture changes13:52
lbragstaddstanek makes sense - so hold off on writing that down as an Ocata item for now?13:52
dstaneki think so13:54
dstaneki think what we might be missing are business goals for identity. so that we can align our tech strategy and goals to that13:54
lbragstaddstanek would you consider the shadow user work a business goal?13:55
lbragstaddstanek or just the simplification/improvement of an existing feature?13:55
dstaneklbragstad: no that's not really a goal. it's a project that works toward a goal.13:56
lbragstaddstanek makes sense13:56
dstanek i think the goal that it works toward is probably "make user management (including federation) consistent"13:56
lbragstad++13:56
dstanekwe have 10,000 foot goals like "make faster", "make operations easier", etc13:57
lbragstadright13:58
dstanekwe have on the ground solutions/projects that help those goals, but i think we are missing something in the middle13:58
dstanekfor example "make faster" -> "authentications are slow" -> "projects to fix all or part of the problem"13:58
dstanekthat middle one is where is think you would do something like SMART goals to manage and make sure the projects are going in the right direction13:59
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lbragstadI know refactoring the token provider api isn't a business goal, but your chain of events ^ made me think of it as something we can easily do after we remove PKI and PKIZ tokens14:01
dstaneklbragstad: not a business goal, but might provided useful metrics that impact a business goal.14:03
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lbragstaddstanek so would that classify as something to add to the etherpad?14:06
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dstaneklbragstad: no, because i don't know what goal it would fall under14:07
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lbragstaddstanek same14:16
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sfinucanI'm trying to extend a test that currently uses Mox14:49
sfinucanthought it would be a good idea to convert the file to mock14:49
sfinucanit's been two days.14:50
sfinucanSay I have a call like this is tests -- "self.mox.StubOutWithMock(self.compute, '_notify_about_instance_usage')"14:50
sfinucanDo I need to use the context manager ("with mock.patch.object(self.compute, '_notify_about_instance_usage'):"), or can I use the decorator ("@mock.patch(???)")14:51
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diltramsfinucan: this two thing suppose to work15:34
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sfinucandiltram: Sadly, the latter doesn't15:37
sfinucanI must be doing something wrong15:38
sfinucanIma push a WIP that will make the gate's eyes bleed :(15:38
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