Wednesday, 2016-08-24

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mjonesHey does anyone know where I can view my User Profile to see which services are exposed to me from the SDK?00:04
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SamYapleSam-I-Am: help sanity check me please00:10
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Sam-I-AmSamYaple: wat00:10
SamYaplewhat makes a tenant network a tenant network vs a provider network?00:11
Sam-I-Ama number of things00:11
SamYaplesimply the Router:External : True?00:11
Sam-I-Ama) they're managed by tenants, not admins b) they exist entirely virtual00:11
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Sam-I-Ama provider network interfaces at layer-2 with a real untagged or tagged network00:11
SamYapleok in reference to this code: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/extensions/dns_integration.py#L29200:12
Sam-I-Amtenant nets also require a router to get to provider nets00:12
SamYapleThe only way that function returns false is if it is a flat non-external network.... at least thats all ive been able to feed it that works00:12
Sam-I-Amthats... interesting00:13
SamYaplebasically external dns does not work for networks that have Router:External, but thats another issue i think00:13
Sam-I-Amthat should only apply to fips00:14
SamYaplethat function is called on all create_ports00:14
SamYaplebut even for fips that doesnt make sense00:14
SamYaple_dont_ inform external dns if the port is on Router:External network00:14
SamYaplethats teh opposite of what you want00:14
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SamYapleim only exercising the mitaka code at the moment, but master doesnt look any better00:16
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SamYapleSam-I-Am: move this to neutron maybe?00:18
SamYaple#openstack-neutron that is00:18
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Sam-I-Amyeah00:19
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MichWell my workday began at 8 am.00:32
MichNow it's 2:32 am00:32
Michopenstack.txt00:32
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Sam-I-Amheh00:34
Sam-I-Amwelcome to openstack00:34
Michyeah00:36
Michlike, if I had to do a lot of bugfixing and all00:36
Michbut no00:36
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Michoh my god and I have to write the documentation for all of this as well00:39
Michkill me now00:39
SamYapleMich: its openstack, no one writes documentation00:39
Michyeah but I work at a university00:39
Michfor a research project00:39
Michi cannot not write a full documentation00:39
Michit is literally my job00:39
SamYaplewell research something you can source from wikipedia00:40
Michbesides the whole building servers00:40
Michlmao00:40
Michi dont even do the research00:40
Michi just do the infrastructure00:40
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MichAlso yeah00:41
Michgood luck not getting murdered if you source wikipedia00:41
Michor any wiki* for that matter00:41
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SamYapleMich: no you source wikipedias sources00:46
Michoh yeah00:46
Michi suppose that works00:46
Michhm...00:47
Michtrying to install telemetry service00:47
Michmongo --host 10.0.1.1 --eval '00:47
Mich  db = db.getSiblingDB("ceilometer");00:47
Mich  db.addUser({user: "ceilometer",00:47
Mich  pwd: “cruiserVolerLight22",00:47
Mich  roles: [ "readWrite", "dbAdmin" ]})'00:47
Michwhat am I missing here00:47
Sam-I-Amif its on 16.04, the version of mongo changed, and so did the syntax00:48
Michfeck00:48
SamYapleu drop dis00:48
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Michit is way too late for this shit ill do that tomorrow00:49
Michmaybe just rollback to the old mongodb version00:49
Sam-I-Amthats probably unpossible on 16.0400:49
Sam-I-Amit comes with what it comes with00:49
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Sam-I-Amyou'll just have to change the syntax00:49
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Sam-I-Amlike i said, the install guide for mitaka only supports 14.0400:49
Michyes yes00:52
Michi just have to look up the syntax00:52
MichI just have little brain for that left right now00:52
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Sam-I-Amdrink more00:55
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Michi was about to say "at work!?"01:00
Michthen i remembers01:00
Michits literally 3am01:00
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Sam-I-Ambooze helps :)01:01
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Michyeah tomorrow ill just get shifaces01:01
Michstill have 3 litres of vodka under my bed01:01
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Sam-I-Amheh01:03
Sam-I-Ami'm out for the night too01:03
Sam-I-Amtoo much crap not working01:03
Michrip01:03
Michgetting an error on the dashboard01:04
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Michsee ya sam01:04
Sam-I-Amseeya01:04
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Michsomeone run my down on how to do VNC via an outside network02:06
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SamYapleMich: horizon is the most common way02:09
Michyeah, I have the dashboard installed.02:09
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Michmy controller is behind a gateway02:09
SamYaplethe nova-novncproxy is the service that proxies VNC02:09
SamYapleso whatever you have doing LB, that must have that service there as well02:10
SamYaplenext to keystone and horizon and what not02:10
Michwait02:10
MichI need keystone and horizon on the GW as well?02:11
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SamYapletechnically not horizon? but keystone and nova-api and nova-novncproxy at the very least.02:11
Michfuck me02:12
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Michnothing can ever be easy02:16
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SamYapleit absolutely can. go ahead and open a port directly to your compute node 590002:17
SamYapleno auth, but thats easy02:17
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Michstill leaves the DNS problem02:20
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Michwildcat’s server DNS address could not be found.02:22
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SamYaplei mean if youve got it configured with dns, then youve got to handle that02:34
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SamYapleeither use an ip, or setup dns properly02:34
Michwow rude02:35
Michdns is set up properly02:35
Michthe GW hangs ona public IP02:35
Michand I wanna access VNC via the internet02:35
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SamYaplegood luck buddy!02:37
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MichSamYaple, got it to work thanks a lot03:42
Michno i need some sleep cause i just finished a 22 hour workday03:42
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QlawyIs the info on this site still legit? http://docs.openstack.org/ha-guide/networking-ha-metadata.html07:09
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caswitchHey guys. :) I have fuun wyth the database : I have a device_id (neutron) and I want to find the user_id who has launche this device. Where I can find this ? c:08:28
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gnstckhello all08:59
caswitchgnstck: Hello c:09:02
gnstckhow are you caswitch ?09:02
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caswitchgnstck: Fine and you ? c:09:04
gnstckam good too thanks09:04
gnstckanyone here know about openstack associate learning guides?09:05
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caswitchNo, sorry gnstck. =$09:06
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gnstckno worries09:06
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caswitchc:09:07
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hoverbearHi folks, I have some metadata in my "Instance Metadata" called "role" that I'd like to access from the instance. Is there a way to do this? I've been poking through neutron and glance but haven't seen anything09:35
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hoverbearMaybe it's in `nova meta`? It requires a user/pass though which is not practical09:38
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cnfhi, I am trying to set up a simple openstack install for playing with, is it normal all the pocesses take as much CPU as they can all the time?09:46
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cnfI have 6 processes taking 16% cpu +- all the time, each09:46
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jubapahi, is there a way to run "pcs status" as non root user?11:41
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horseHi guys, i'm trying to install openstack following the user install guide for ubuntu on the openstack web site12:40
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horsei'm sturgginling to get nova-compute and nova-controller working12:41
horsei've seen a few other people on the web having the exact same issue as me12:41
horsein that AMPQ on the controller gives an error "connection_closed_abruptly" for nova-compute12:42
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horseis there a way to check which version of nova compute im using?  and is there any docs which lists compatible versions of the varius components12:42
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KiriakosHi everybody, I'm trying to install Openstack Mitaka on Xenial, how can I work around add-apt-repository not letting me add the cloud-archive:mitaka repo? As of the openstack support model in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenStack/CloudArchive Mitaka should be allowed in Xenial installs.13:46
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shirafunoCurrently posted in #openstack-neutron but to no anvil. I’m currently following the guide (https://www.rdoproject.org/networking/neutron-with-existing-external-network/) in order to get Hashicorp’s Packer to talk properly to OpenStack. Currently I have restarted the network service and trying to execute the command “neutron net-create external_network --provider:network_type flat --provider:physical_network extnet  --router:external” which13:48
shirafunoreturns that I need “an auth plugin to fetch a tokan” additionally my openstack instance, which was once located at 192.168.10.10, is now not being able to be communicated with through the web interface. Could anybody advise?13:48
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jacob_Hi13:58
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jacob_Can we migrate vm's from one cloud(icehouse) to other (liberty) with minimal downtime14:00
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jacob_Anyone please help me to solve this14:00
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jacob_I am actually confused. Please help14:01
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electrocucarachajacob_: All depends, the services that you're running, the deployment method that you used, I'm not expert deploying OS but AFAIK your downtime will have a relationship with the size of your database14:03
jacob_okay14:04
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jacob_Can u suggest me any openstack methods?14:06
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jacob_In this case live_migration doesn't work I think so, both are cloud of different versions14:07
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jacob_i tried snapshot, but the problem is the updates14:07
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D4RKS1D3Hi, someone knows how to list the lxc in a lxc-compute with lxc-ls ?14:12
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electrocucarachajacob_: I remember that I read something about that in the operations guide, lemme take a look14:17
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jacob_electrocucaracha: Okay, it would be helpful14:18
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jacob_electrocucaracha: sorry, I lost connection14:27
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jacob_Did you got that operation guide14:28
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electrocucarachajacob_: I'm still looking for14:32
jacob_okay14:32
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johnmiltonhello, im having a problem where i attach/detach a volume (creating and deleting are fine) and it fails14:46
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electrocucarachajacob_: sadly, I couldn't find the version for liberty, maybe this can helps http://docs.openstack.org/ops-guide/ops-upgrades.html14:52
electrocucarachajacob_: more likely you have seen that before14:53
jacob_yes14:54
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jacob_anyway thanks14:55
jacob_:)14:55
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Deep_ThoughtHello, I don't find a doc on this. How long ceilometer keeps the data collected by default?15:09
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KiriakosAny pointers to why Ubuntu Xenial does not support Mitaka?15:27
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Kiriakoshttp://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/ only lists newton whereas https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenStack/CloudArchive shows that M is supposed to be the main release for xenial15:28
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KiriakosWould love to get some response on this since the Internet doesn't seem to be very aware of this.15:29
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fxpesterKiriakos: cause Mitaka was released first, and only after it Xenial released15:31
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Kiriakosfxpester, OK, what exactly does this mean? I mean that is the usual way things go right?15:33
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Kiriakosrelease => distro15:33
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fxpesteryou can`t make your release compatible with some not yet released software, this is usual for all software15:34
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fxpesterusually distro = release15:35
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KiriakosLet's put it like this, Gnome gets released, then it's put into the repos. That's what I mean.15:36
KiriakosBut arguing semantics doesn't help me.15:36
KiriakosWhat are my options for Openstack on Xenial then?15:36
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RenichHello! o/15:38
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KiriakosNewton? Is that stable enough? Do I have a chance of getting anything out of devstack's stable/mitaka branch to work?15:38
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RenichI've been browsing around; looking for the answer to: what is the optimal file count per container? I came up with two answers 2^64 and <= 1,000,00015:39
Renichdoes anybody have anything to add to this?15:39
Renichwhich is the recommended file count limit per container?15:39
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RenichThe 1M answer is due to experience; the 2^64 is due to the MD5 limitation15:40
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KiriakosSo is Newton stable enough to actually work with?15:45
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KiriakosOr is everybody installing Ubuntu Xenial screwed?15:46
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RenichKiriakos: I did an installation on Xenial. Swift and Keystone15:48
RenichKiriakos: but it's Mikata still15:48
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KiriakosRenich from where did You install those? there is no Mitaka in Xenials CloudArchive http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/. Did You just use devstack? Or from source?15:58
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RenichKiriakos: https://github.com/CloudSigma/bos15:59
RenichKiriakos: add-apt-repository cloud-archive:mitaka is what I did16:00
jidarSam-I-Am: looking over the way scenarios are divided up, there seems to be lots of "if vxlan ==" and "if vlan ==", are you planning on streamlining that as well?16:01
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jidarSam-I-Am: ^ this is for the networking guides btw.16:02
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KiriakosHi Renich, ok, I'll look into that. thanks16:06
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KiriakosRenich, the add-apt-repository You posted only works for trusty, are You sure You made it work on Xenial?16:07
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RenichKiriakos: my swift installation works fine, so I think it does16:09
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Renichso, what's up? Any feedback on the subject of optimal number of objects per container?16:10
Renichcome on, I'd like your opinion, Community16:11
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KiriakosRenich that's what I get when running add-... https://s9.postimg.io/e22edt6fx/Screen_Shot_2016_08_24_at_14_26_07.png16:18
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KiriakosRenich, regarding file limit, I'd say 1M is low but safe :-)16:19
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dricoHi, got problem setting up Vxlan / OVS, cannot get the VM to get DHCP16:24
dricothe setup looks ok http://pastebin.com/DdLiP0M216:24
dricois there any mistake I made in openvswitch setup ?16:24
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dricoshould the ethernet interface be added in a br-eth ?16:28
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RenichKiriakos: thanks man16:31
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RenichKiriakos: gimme a minute to check my repo16:31
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notmynameRenich: I saw you asking questions about swift earlier17:20
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notmynameRenich: about object count per container17:20
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SamYaplenotmyname: hows the sharding work going? its been a few months since I last asked17:26
notmynameabout the same :-)17:26
notmynamewell, it's still going17:26
SamYaple:)17:26
notmynameprogress is being made, but it's not done yet17:26
SamYaplefair enough. just curious17:26
notmynameRenich: in case you see this later, here's my answer...17:27
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notmynameRenich: the recommended number of objects per container in swift depends on two things: (1) how many objects you want to add per second per container and (2) what sort of hardware you have referenced in the contianer rings17:28
notmynameRenich: for the second, I strongly suggest using flash. (SSDs are fine)17:28
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notmynameRenich: if you need to sustain eg 100 writes per second in a single container and you've got flash devices for the container storage, then you'll probably be looking at a few dozen million objects17:29
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Renichnotmyname: thanks, man. That works17:30
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JustinHitlahow much "thanks" equals in bitcoins ?17:30
notmynameRenich: but note that this is (1) write performance--reads are unaffected and (2) per container--so shard your data client-side to use lots of containers17:30
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Renichnotmyname: yes, thanks. Your answer helps a lot. And, yeah, we're using SSDs and testing a ZFS setup actually17:31
notmynameRenich: almost all of any write performance penalty in large container has been eliminated in swift over the last year. but operationally, it's still a good idea to avoid truly huge containers. you don't want to try to replicate billion-row DBs17:32
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notmynameRenich: oh, interesting. I'd be interested to hear what kind of performance you get with that. last I saw (but it was a long time ago) ZFS had some pretty bad performance numbers when you get it reasonably full (lots of inodes)17:32
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notmynameRenich: also feel free to drop by #openstack-swift if you've got further questions17:34
Renichnotmyname: well, we're trying it out in a very specific use case. One putter, and a lot of getters on the setup. For climatic data17:34
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Renichnotmyname: sure thing, thanks17:34
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brandor5hey guys, I'm working with mitaka and trying get internal dns working properly... I've got it working so that hosts have an entry in the internal dns for the dns_domain I've defined in neutron.conf... I'd like to have it use the dns_domain that's attached to the network it belongs to... anyone know how to accomplish this?18:04
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SamYaplebrandor5: if you enabled teh ml2 extention driver 'dns' then youll just want to make sure you restart your services. although I think only neutron-server needs to be restarted for that to take effect18:06
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SamYaplealso make sure yo uare testing on newly launched instances18:07
SamYapleeven a hard reboot wont always refresh teh info18:07
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brandor5@SamYaple: yep, I've tried all of those, but I'll try a reboot on the controller to make sure everything is updating18:08
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brandor5no luck, guests are still getting the dns_domain configured in neutron18:23
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brandor5I think it has to do with the network not being an externally accessible network18:36
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brandor5scratch that, just found a slideshow with a demo from Miguel Lavalle showing exactly what I want to happen.. i guess i've just misconfigured somewhere18:43
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SamYaplethats a good slide set. there is a pretty big issue on mitaka though that only happens if you have a single subnet (more than one and youre fine)18:53
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brandor5is this the one you're looking at? http://www.slideshare.net/MiguelLavalle/get-your-instance-by-name-integration-of-nova-neutron-and-designate18:54
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SamYaplebrandor5: that name looks correct. i remember it from being in tokyo if thats teh same slideset18:55
brandor5i also found this one that doesn't show the private net being updated.... only external18:55
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brandor5http://www.slideshare.net/MiguelLavalle/integration-of-neutron-nova-and-designate-how-to-use-it-and-how-to-configure-it18:55
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SamYaplethere is some strangeness as to what updates to be honest. im trying to get to teh bottom of it18:56
SamYaplewhats desired even is unclear18:56
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brandor5yeah, i'm starting to get a bit frustrated...18:57
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SamYaplethe nova/neutron integraion piece is seriously lacking in users and documentation. there is no statement anywhere I can find about even _what_ it is supposed to do19:05
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SamYaplebrandor5: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/161627419:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1616274 in neutron "external dns doesnt get updated" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Sam Yaple (s8m)19:06
SamYaplebrandor5: should provide some other insight19:06
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brandor5thanks19:07
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yko_?19:36
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hoonetorgwhat is the correct command to do live migration in mitaka20:07
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quAnyone know what an "MML server" is?  G**gle is baffled.20:29
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Dougihi all, im new to openstack, but im very interesting to learn, so i have a ubuntu maas setup with a controller and 4 nodes deployed, but i dont know what next... and i kind of dont find any good dokumentation. can someone tell me how to find any good dokumentation on how to get juju installed correctly?20:37
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SamYaplequ: context?20:44
SamYaplehoonetorg: i believe youll still need to use `nova live-migration`20:45
SamYaplelast i checked there was a bug in the openstackclient with live-migration20:45
hoonetorgSamYaple fails with no error20:45
quSamYaple: WRT different example configurations that can be set up.20:45
hoonetorgor let's say: does nothing20:45
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SamYaplehoonetorg: it doesnt return any info20:46
SamYaplehoonetorg: you should check your scheduler logs20:47
hoonetorgSamYaple:no20:47
hoonetorgok20:47
SamYaplesounds like it couldnt find a new place to scduler20:47
SamYaplequ: WRT? im confused. do you have a link to this document?20:47
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quSamYaple: http://docs.hpcloud.com/pdf/HPE_Helion_OpenStack_3.0_Complete_Documentation.pdf20:48
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quWell, maybe that's not so important a question if you haven't come across it.20:51
quSamYaple: If I want to segregate my cloud into different departments (finance, manufacturing, etc), how could I do that securely?20:52
quNova Availability Zones doesn't seem to be it.20:52
brandor5@SamYaple: I read up on the bug you posted and followed Miquel's steps and still pulled the dns_name set in neutron.conf and not what's attached to the network20:53
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hoonetorgSamYaple:libvirtError: internal error: Attempt to migrate guest to the same host 03000200-0400-0500-0006-00070008000920:56
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hoonetorgit seems that hostid's are all equal20:56
hoonetorgbug when using cheap hardware for testing20:57
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SamYaplehoonetorg: there is a config value to allow you to migrate to the same host21:01
SamYaplebut if yo uare saying the /etc/hostid or whatever it is is the same, you should fix that21:02
SamYaplequ moment, reading21:02
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SamYaplequ: hmm how do yo uwant the segreatation to occur? if those departments have thier own domain, or even project, they should be reasonably isolated21:02
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quSamYaple: I want them absolutely divided from one another in some way, although they may share the same blade and disk farm.21:03
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hoonetorgSamYaple: libvirtd.conf host_uuid param to override i will try 1st :)21:06
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hoonetorgSamYaple: yeah works21:09
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hoonetorgSamYaple: also i found that https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/151805921:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1518059 in python-openstackclient "Shared-Migration and Block-Migration are reversed" [Undecided,Incomplete]21:10
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hoonetorgif you say openstack migrate --live --block-migration when you want shared migration it works21:11
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hoonetorg*if you say openstack migrate --live <desthost> --block-migration when you want shared migration it works21:11
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hoonetorg:wallbash:21:12
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SamYaplehoonetorg: yea that sounds right. i just use the nova client for that. i dont want to think21:15
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SamYaplequ: so basically just not talking to each others networks?21:15
SamYaplequ: neutron does that out of the box21:15
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quSamYaple: I mean completely preventing the possibility of communication between domains, of course.  To prevent hackers or insiders from getting at things they shouldn't.  We can't always rely on ppl to be honest.21:19
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SamYapledefine "communication between domains"21:24
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quNever mind.21:31
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qu('It depends on what the meaning of "is", is...')21:33
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SamYaplequ: i get the feeling you dont fully understand your requirements21:40
SamYaplehow esle would communication work if not over the network?21:40
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SamYapleno users from one domain dont have access to another21:40
SamYaplewhat are yo uasking?21:40
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quApparently you are not literate in security.  We are not communicating for some reason.  No sense in further discussion.21:41
SamYaple:) good luck getting help!21:41
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