Thursday, 2015-10-15

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adun153Hi, I was following the instructions here, http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/apt/content/neutron-network-node.html , and when I added my public interface (eth0) to br-ex, the server lost communication with the public network. What could be the most likely cause for this?03:18
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Sam-I-Amthats typical03:20
Sam-I-Amif you're using 1 interface, which it sounds like you are, you need to move its IP to br-ex03:20
Sam-I-Amthis is not supported by the installation guide, which uses more than 1 interface to make this all easier03:20
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adun153Sam-I-Am, I actually have 3 interfaces on my node.03:21
adun153One for public, one for admin/internal, and one for data.03:22
Sam-I-Amok, so the interface for management should not be the one you plug into br-ex03:22
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Sam-I-Amit should be some other, usually unnumbered interface03:22
adun153what do you mean by that?03:23
adun153I create a bridge from eth0, give an IP address to that, and add that bridge to br-ex?03:23
adun153as a port03:24
Sam-I-Ameach node has an interface on some management network03:25
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adun153yes03:25
adun153that's eth3 for my server03:25
Sam-I-Amwhich is the one for ssh into them too03:25
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Sam-I-Amthen there's another interface on the compute and network nodes for the internal neutron networks (tunnels)03:26
adun153yeah, I had to do that when the public interface went down03:26
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Sam-I-Amand finally, the network node has an additional interface that goes to some external network, not necessarily the internet03:26
adun153yes, I have that too, eth203:26
adun153Yes, that's my eth003:26
Sam-I-Amok03:26
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Sam-I-Amtheres no ip on that interface03:26
Sam-I-Amso adding it to br-ex should not break connectivity03:27
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adun153This is a combined network/controller node that I'm working on.03:27
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adun153I know it should be possible, right?03:27
adun153I'll be using the public interface for Horizon AND floating IPs.03:27
Sam-I-Amit is03:27
Sam-I-Amthat wont work03:27
adun153What workaround do you know?03:28
Sam-I-Amwell, it can, but you'll need to put an ip on br-ex03:28
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adun153any changes I need to make on eth2?03:28
adun153I mean eth0 (public)03:28
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adun153let's say currently, eth0 has 1.1.1.1 /24as an ip address, I'll give 1.1.1.2/24 to br-ex03:29
Sam-I-Amtake the ip off eth003:29
Sam-I-Amit wont work with one anyway03:29
adun153ok03:30
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adun153If I give eth0's IP to br-ex, that should work?03:30
adun153Apache, etc. can still listen on br-ex's address to receive connections from the public network?03:30
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Sam-I-Amyes03:31
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adun153So, I'll just move over eth0's IP to br-ex. Ok, I'll give that a try, thanks!03:32
adun153Just basically in /etc/network/interfaces, change all instances of "eth0" to "br-ex", right?03:33
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Sam-I-Ampretty much03:36
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oc714Hi everyone. what kind of general openstack interview questions are out there? I never had a openstack interview before03:59
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larsksMan, quit while I was typing. Some people have no patience.04:01
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oc714does anyone have an idea of general openstack interview questions in here04:02
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larsksoc714: That's a very broad question.04:04
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larsksFor what sort of position?  Operator? Software developer?04:04
oc714i know its a broad question larsks.04:04
oc714have u been interviewed for openstack position04:05
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oc714larsks i know it can be development, admin and so on.04:05
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oc714larsks i mainly did deployment openstack on ubuntu 12.04 and 14.0404:05
larsksThe point is that the nature of the questions is going to be very different for those different roles.  I would expect a developer to know about API internals, but I would not ask those sorts of questions for someone who was going to be a cloud operator.04:06
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oc714as a cloud operator. what kind of questions would be Larsks?04:06
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larsksA variety of basic operational ones, I'm sure...how do you set up the service catalog in keystone?  If an instance fails to boot, where do you look for logs?  If you successfully boot an instance but can't ping it, what might be wrong? How can you check?04:07
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oc714my answer would be looking at the logs on the gui side correct?04:08
larsksHow do you create a volume?  How do you attach a volume to an instance?  A floating ip to an instance? What's the difference between fixed and floating ips?04:08
oc714creat a volume would be on the horizon dashboard (gui)04:08
larsksoc714: If I were asking those question I would be looking for more specific answers (which logs? On which systems?  What sort of error messages might you see?)04:08
larsksI would expect someone to be familiar with the command line tools more than the web ui.04:08
oc714then  i would specifically go into the cli side /var/log/keystone something like that04:09
larsksSo, I'm just trying to present some examples here; I'm too tired to actually process answers :).04:09
oc714its ok I can google those thanks for ur help04:09
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oc714any more questions on Openstack as a operator larsks?04:18
oc714like glance and neutron04:19
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larsksoc714: I'm sure there would be lots of questions about those, and about all the core services.  If you can deploy a cloud from scratch and get servers to boot and run externally accessible services, you're probably in good shape.04:20
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larsksUnderstanding linux networking enough to perform basic neutron trouble diagnosis is probably a pretty big win.04:21
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CholbyKingHello. FUCK ALL SPICS, NIGGERS, JEWS, CHRISTIANS, SAND NIGGERS, DUNE COONS, KIKES, CHINKS, WETBACKS, FAGS, DYKES, AND PEOPLE WHO LIKE PEACH ICE CREAM, JOIN #R.TREES FOR FREE OPS04:33
CholbyKingHello. FUCK ALL SPICS, NIGGERS, JEWS, CHRISTIANS, SAND NIGGERS, DUNE COONS, KIKES, CHINKS, WETBACKS, FAGS, DYKES, AND PEOPLE WHO LIKE PEACH ICE CREAM, JOIN #R.TREES FOR FREE OPS04:33
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CholbyKingHello. FUCK ALL SPICS, NIGGERS, JEWS, CHRISTIANS, SAND NIGGERS, DUNE COONS, KIKES, CHINKS, WETBACKS, FAGS, DYKES, AND PEOPLE WHO LIKE PEACH ICE CREAM, JOIN #R.TREES FOR FREE OPS04:33
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CholbyKingHello. FUCK ALL SPICS, NIGGERS, JEWS, CHRISTIANS, SAND NIGGERS, DUNE COONS, KIKES, CHINKS, WETBACKS, FAGS, DYKES, AND PEOPLE WHO LIKE PEACH ICE CREAM, JOIN #R.TREES FOR FREE OPS04:33
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oc714larsks i did deploy using devstack on ubuntu since I am not a developer it did everything04:36
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oc714larsks i used ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04.04:37
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oc714can u give me some quick example questions for glance and neutron04:38
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oc714does anyone know general questions for NOVA interview04:54
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adun153Sam-I-Am, it worked, thanks again!05:37
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oc714adun153 have u had openstack interview questions before?06:06
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adun153oc714: I haven't had the chance. Anything I can *try* to help you with?06:11
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aayuhello everyone06:42
aayuI am new to openstack and learning services of openstack06:43
aayucan somebody give me the links of good documentation for that06:43
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SamYaplelarsks: as if linux networking an neutron were the same. we all know its just magic06:45
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adun153aayu: http://docs.openstack.org06:54
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aayuthanks adun15306:55
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adun153aayu: No problem! :)06:56
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aka1hello everyone07:01
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loth1Hey all, anyone seen this from nova-manage db sync? " OperationalError: (OperationalError) (1292, "Incorrect datetime value: '0000-00-00 00:00:00' for column 'deleted_at' at row 46") '\nALTER TABLE instances CHANGE COLUMN uuid uuid VARCHAR(36) NOT NULL' ()"07:02
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SamYapleloth1: I have not. however there are some nova-manage cleanup commands to help archive old deleted rows. if you are looking for a quick fix that may help you07:04
SamYapleotherwise you could update that value by hand07:05
loth1Okay, thanks ill check it out07:05
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loth1cool, ran the ALTER TABLE instances CHANGE COLUMN uuid uuid VARCHAR(36) NOT NULL manually and looks like sync works now07:10
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Mcfly_hi all. Is in Kilo Horizon the Block Storage disabled? Service is up, but i cannot see the the tab to create Volumes. Telemetry is also not visible in the Overview07:19
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loth1Mcfly_: is it enabled in your horizon config? can you query the command line interface fine07:25
Mcfly_loth1: i use Kilo. Where can i spot this? :)07:25
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loth1the horizon config or CLI? :)07:25
loth1RDO has /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings07:26
Mcfly_the Horizon Config. It changed since Kilo07:26
loth1not sure about ubuntu07:26
loth1just search your OS for local_settings i guess07:26
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Mcfly_same path.. just local_settings.py07:26
Mcfly_OPENSTACK_CINDER_FEATURES = {     'enable_backup': False,07:27
Mcfly_maybe thats the trick07:27
loth1i guess thatsjust cinder backup, nbd07:27
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loth1usually if horizon cant find a service from the list provided by keystone it disables the menus07:28
loth1i would check and make sure you show cinder on your service list in horizon07:28
Mcfly_i check that out. And do you know why ceilometer isnt showing up in the main overview, but it is meterin in the hypervisors tab?07:29
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loth1should be its own tab under admin, resource usage or something07:29
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Mcfly_got it. but cinder is still not showing up. changed value to true, and reloaded apache2 but its not showing up.07:30
Mcfly_checked the controller and the node is stated as up07:31
loth1in your service status under admin does cinder show there?07:31
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Mcfly_just :cinderv2 volumev2  on controller.07:33
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Mcfly_hmm ... i see in the shell that keystone service-list throws: DeprecationWarning: The keystone CLI error07:35
Mcfly_got to check that out07:35
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loth1Mcfly_: use openstack command now07:35
loth1keystone deprecated07:35
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Mcfly_Authorization Failed: The resource could not be found. (HTTP 404)07:37
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Mcfly_strange... i already used the admin-openrc source07:37
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Mcfly_should i upgrade "python-keystoneclient"=07:37
Mcfly_?07:38
loth1Sure, if there is one updated for kilo07:38
loth1however the openstack client replaces it07:38
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loth1http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-openstackclient/07:39
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Mcfly_when i use the openstack command : (pbr 1.8.1 (/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages), Requirement.parse('pbr>=0.6,!=0.7,<1.0'))07:39
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loth1weird07:41
loth1google says pbr 1.8.1 is for mitaka07:41
loth1https://openstack.nimeyo.com/61369/openstack-announce-release-oslo-pbr-release-1-8-1-mitaka07:42
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Mcfly_upgraded the openstackclient cli, now : (pbr 0.11.0 (/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages), Requirement.parse('pbr>=1.6'))07:44
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SamYapleloth1: the openstackclient doesnt replace keystoneclient entirely07:46
SamYaplejust the cli peice07:46
SamYapleyou still need keystoneclient07:46
loth1ah i guess i just misread http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-keystoneclient/man/keystone.html07:47
Mcfly_ye but i upgraded both. keystone is still deprecated and the openstack cli shows the python fail07:47
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loth1keystone should still work just with warnings07:47
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Mcfly_let me pastebin this07:49
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Mcfly_http://paste.openstack.org/show/476335/07:49
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Mcfly_i mean yesterday it all worked well07:51
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Mcfly_now i came to work and saw this ... and cinder was missing. it all worked once. the most annoying thing is. i just finished installing it yesterday07:52
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adun153Would like your opinion on this: http://pastebin.com/UbmbxJzg    That kind of points to Neutron as having a problem, right?07:53
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Mcfly_i made a downgrade from pbr, and it still doesn’t work.07:59
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adun153Would like your opinion on this: http://pastebin.com/UbmbxJzg    That kind of points to Neutron as having a problem, right?08:01
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Mcfly_more fails ... now i get serveral errors using horizon.08:04
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Mcfly_adun153: yes it may have some problem, but the log is to short to see where it could stuck08:05
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adun153Mcfly_ How much would you like to see? Any logs from any service you wish for me to post?08:07
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Mcfly_adun153: not for me. i am no specialist. but for others maybe. i am not that much skilled with neutron08:08
adun153Mcfly_ ok, thanks.08:08
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adun153Sanity check: Is there a very good reason not to use LVM over DRBD,  when the DRBD disk has already been provisioned as an LV? I just want to make an LVM PV highly-available for Cinder.10:58
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Muntanerhello to everyone, I've got some problems with my openstack all-in-one installation11:01
Muntanerafter a system update11:01
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MuntanerIt's Kilo installed on a Fedora 2211:01
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Muntanerthe problems are various: floating IPs seems to be unreachable, the dashboard is reachable and logins are working but I get "random" errors trying to use it11:02
Muntanerfor example, sometimes I'm able to launch instances, sometimes not11:02
adun153This wasn't "devstack"ed, wasn't it?11:03
Muntanerno adun153, I installed it with the manual11:03
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adun153define "system update", what did you do?11:04
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Muntaneradun153, a simple dnf update11:06
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adun153Muntaner: Were OpenStack packages upgraded thru that process?11:14
adun153sachin_setiya: hi11:14
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thetechfreakHey everyone, I'm having a trouble installing OpenStack through Vagrant cookbook code.11:29
thetechfreakThe installation stops at cinder.sh thowing an error "rsyslog.conf not found" in the vagrant folder11:29
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thetechfreakAny help guys?11:44
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prapulla_hi11:47
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adun153thetechfreak: I'm ative, but can't help you with that problem, mate.11:50
adun153*active11:50
adun153sorry11:50
adun153prapulla: hi11:50
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thetechfreakokay adun153 :)11:52
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Muntaneradun153, sorry, I was away11:55
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thetechfreakbtw if anyone knows how to fix it, do post. Will be checking logs later.11:56
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adun153Muntaner: So, were OpenStack packages ugraded?11:57
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Muntaneradun153, yes, I think so11:58
Muntaneradun153, I'm looking at my .conf11:58
Muntanerthey seem to not have changed11:58
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adun153Muntaner: The OpenStack package upgrades were more on just security updates, and not release updates, right?12:00
adun153just making sure.12:00
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Muntaneradun153, how can I diagnose that?12:02
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MuntanerI'm sorry, but I'm not the person that actually "did" the upgrade12:02
Muntanerupdate*12:03
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Muntaneradun153, this was the first update in months12:04
adun153I see12:04
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adun153Muntaner: when instance launch errors are encountered, what errors does OpenStack return?12:05
Muntaneradun153, a lot of, and they vary: can't retrieve image list, can't retrieve volume informations, error in sending the form, etc.12:05
Muntaneron command line, some commands work and some not12:05
Muntanerfor example, nova image-list is workin12:06
Muntanernetwork-list is working12:06
adun153have you tried looking at the logs?12:06
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Muntaneradun153, yes12:07
adun153for example, when "nova image-list" fails, have you peeked at /var/log/nova/nova-api.log?12:07
adun153What did it say?12:07
MuntanerI got no recent errors, since this command is actually working12:07
Muntanerbut for example, my keystone unit is dead and I can't get any logs12:07
adun153and also, what did "nova image-list" actually return as an error code?12:07
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adun153Ah, you should focus on keystone, then.12:08
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adun153It that fails, everything kind of fails, as well.12:08
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adun153Sinice they different components won't be able to authenticate with each other.12:08
adun153*since12:08
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Muntaneradun153, I'm trying to launch keystone basic commands12:09
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Muntanersuch as keystone user-list12:09
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adun153You need a reliable keystone and rpc backend service12:09
adun153What does it say?12:09
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MuntanerERROR:keystoneclient.generic.client:Failed to check keystone extensions. NotFound: The resource could not be found. (HTTP 404) (Request-ID: req-8f7be799-610c-4689-820c-aa4fce45a7c9)12:09
Muntanerand nothing seems to be working12:09
adun153do you still have the admin token?12:10
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adun153anyway, do a service restart for keystone, and watch what it outputs in /var/log/keystone12:11
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Muntaneradun153, I restarted it a couple of times12:14
MuntanerI have no outputs in that folder12:14
Muntaneradun153, maybe I got the problem12:15
Muntaneraddress already in use:12:15
adun153Which program says "address already in use"?12:16
adun153keystone?12:16
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adun153apache?12:16
adun153Or did you just detect an IP conflict in your network?12:16
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Muntaneradun153, keystone fails to start when I do a systemctl restart openstack-keystone.service12:17
Muntanerin journalctl -xe, can see the error12:17
Muntanerott 15 14:17:45 ostack.rete keystone-all[21082]: 2015-10-15 14:17:45.435 21082 TRACE keystone error: [Errno 98] Address already in use12:17
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v12amleventlet vs wsgi?12:18
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adun153Muntaner: what v12aml said12:20
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adun153Are you using standalone keystone (eventlet), or via Apache wsgi module?12:20
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adacToday I'm with devstack again  guys! Trying to solve the network issue :)12:22
adacI think that the virtual machines do not get an IP12:23
adacstarting cirros and try to debug as it was suggested here12:23
adun153Muntaner: Doing the upgrades might have automatically restarted several openstack components via their service scripts, which in this case might have started Keystone in eventlet mode.12:23
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Muntaneradun153, I'm looking at my keystone.conf12:24
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v12amlMuntaner: If you are using keystone via WSGI, you must restart apache2  instead of keystone.service (eventlet)12:26
adachmm ok I have an ip adress. ifconfing is showing 10.0.0.3 pinging google.com is not possible, says "bad address". Also piniging the IP of the google dns  does not succeed12:27
v12amljust try: sudo netstat -nlp | grep 500012:28
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Muntanerv12aml, ok, I'm using it12:29
MuntanerI tried to restart apache212:29
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Muntanerhttpd.service12:29
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Muntanerv12aml, there's actually something on 500012:29
Muntanertcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5000            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      25231/python12:29
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adun153Muntaner: that's the keystone eventlet12:30
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v12amlpython means that you are using eventlet12:30
adun153if you're using apache, it should say httpd or apache, not python12:30
adun153I forget how it goes on Fedora, the equivalent to "service keystone stop" should do it.12:31
adun153then restart apache12:31
Muntanerhow do you understand that it is eventlet?12:31
MuntanerI can't get it :(12:32
adun153Because eventlet runs under straight Python12:32
v12amlif 35357 and 5000 listened by python - you are using eventlet12:32
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Muntanerthanks :)12:32
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adun153If 35357 and 5000 are by apache/httpd, then it is running through wsgi.12:33
Muntanerok my httpd restarted12:33
Muntanertcp6       0      0 :::5000                 :::*                    LISTEN      26730/httpd12:33
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adun153Muntaner: Looks good! Hopefully, that's one less problem.12:34
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Muntaneradun153, keystone isn't working anyway12:34
MuntanerI can't log into the dashboard12:34
Muntanerand keystone-user list gives me error12:34
MuntanerAuthorization Failed: Unable to establish connection to http://controller:35357/v3/tokens12:34
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MuntanerI can ping "controller"12:35
Muntanerand there is something on port 3535712:35
Muntanertcp6       0      0 :::35357                :::*                    LISTEN      27132/httpd12:35
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v12amlit’s good12:35
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adun153that is the expected netstat output12:35
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Muntanerok guys, nice12:36
adun153try looking at the keystone logs now12:36
Muntanerkeystone.log is empty12:36
adun153that should help you further12:36
v12amlyou need to check the logs of keystone12:36
adacThis is what ttraceroute says: http://postimg.org/image/e3eunt8sh/ 172.24.4.1 is the br-ex device of my devstack host machine12:36
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adacbut yeah I do not reach the internets12:36
Muntanerkeystone.log is empty, are there other logs file?12:37
adun153Muntaner: what else is in /var/log/keystone/?12:37
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adun153or maybe your disk is full, if it can't log?12:37
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v12amlcheck apache wsgi config file12:37
v12amlex. /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/wsgi-keystone.conf12:37
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v12amlor somthing like this12:37
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Muntanerv12aml, I don't have that file12:39
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Muntaneradun153, I've only that file and a .gz archive12:39
Muntanerv12aml, I don't have that file12:39
adun153did you check your disk space?12:39
adun153just one thing to eliminate.12:39
Muntanerv12aml, I found that file12:40
Muntanerwant me to paste it?12:40
adun153use pastebin.com12:40
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Muntaneradun153, I've got some free space, it's isn't a space issue12:41
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adun153ok.12:41
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Muntanerhttp://pastebin.com/Md0magqc12:41
adun153Thought maybe that was the reason why it doesn't log.12:41
adun153Line 2212:42
adun153Check that: /var/log/httpd/keystone-error.log12:42
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Muntaneradun153, I'm looking to that file12:42
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adun153Muntaner: "tail"-ing it first should give you a good idea.12:43
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Muntaneradun153, I can't see any recent errors12:44
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Muntaneradun153, I'm pretty lost right now12:47
adun153Muntaner: I've gotta bounce now, sorry. But I suggest you do everything you can to diagnose what is wrong with Keystone.12:47
adun153watch the logs, then run commands against keystone12:48
adun153Anything to make it spew out information - the more info you have about how it behaves, the more it will help.12:48
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adun153Muntaner: Good luck!12:49
Muntaneradun153, thanks :)12:50
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v12amlMuntaner: Are the CLI clients ‘openstack’ and ‘keystone’?  something like ‘openstack endpoint list --long’12:53
v12amlany error output?12:53
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Muntanerv12aml,13:13
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Muntanerv12aml, I get the endpoint list13:14
Muntanerwithout problems13:14
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v12amlok13:14
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v12amlother clients like Nova works? Now It looks like a problem with the dashboard13:15
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adacDo you guys see the problem here why I cannot connct to the internet via br-ex? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/88468aff29c8df0861dc13:16
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v12amlMuntaner: does ‘nova service-list’ return any error?13:23
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Muntanerv12aml, no, it works13:29
Muntanerv12aml, I can't really understand what's broken here13:30
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v12amlcan u post /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings.py  on pastebin ? OPENSTACK_API_VERSIONS - wich version of identity using? wich URL of OPENSTACK_KEYSTONE_URL ?13:31
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Muntanerv12aml, it's not a dashboard problem, nova list isn't giving me the machines that I had13:34
v12amldoes it return any error or just empty list13:34
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Muntanerv12aml, empty list13:35
Muntanerv12aml, I'm using the REST openstack apis via openstack4j client, and they seem to work13:35
MuntanerI see It's creating vms, routers, networks and so on13:35
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nllrteanyone out there running kilo with centos7 on dell r730s?13:36
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nllrte^ i should also add ovs13:38
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curxadac: do have you an physical network (port) attached to this ovs br-ex?13:58
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adaccurx, hmm how can I see that? would this not be listed here? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/88468aff29c8df0861dc14:03
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joemonk_not sure if this is the place to ask or not but... kilo on sles11sp3, possible?14:06
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Sam-I-Amjoemonk_: too old14:09
Sam-I-Amnot guaranteed to work14:09
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joemonk_Yeah, that's what I was thinking, just hoping somebody in here could stop me from wasting my time trying :p14:11
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adacActually this is the overall situation on the host:https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cdb2d3af9239402d323814:36
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adacAnd from the virtualmachine I'm not able to reach the internet14:36
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adacI eman if I do that, adding a port: ovs-vsctl add-port br-ex INTERFACE_NAME then I cannot acess the host via SSH anymore14:42
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adacdoes br-ex need to be connected to eth0 or similar that is connected to the internet?14:43
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larsksadac: for floating ip addresses to work correctly, you need a physical nic connected to br-ex and you need to have a floating ip range that is appropriate for that network.14:45
larsksIf you are just "testing the waters", you can set up NAT rules instead to give your instances outbound access, although you won't be able to access them from anywhere except the network host itself.14:46
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adaclarsks, hmm And how would I solve such a thing in production? Would I have to have tow physical nics if I wanted to have the host have acess to the internet and also the vhosts?14:48
larsksIt's easiest that way, certainly, but if you only have a single nic you can add it to br-ex and then move the ip configuration from that nic onto br-ex.14:48
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larsksIn a "production" situation, though, you might actually want more than two nics: one for management/ssh access, one for tenant networks, one for tenant external access, one for public api/web ui access...14:49
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adaclarsks, Do hosting providers offer that (by default), having mor then one nic?  Thinkikg of Hetzner and others14:51
adac(if you know Hetzner at all :) )14:51
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larsksI'm not sure that most hosting providers are trying to be optimal platforms for openstack deployments.  I'm not familiar with Hetzner in particular.14:52
adacok bascically it is just antoher "ethx" interfce with yet another publichIP, right?14:52
larsksFor the external nic? Yeah.14:52
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Sam-I-Amproblem is, most hosting providers only give you 1 ip14:53
Sam-I-Amso public ips for your vms is not possible14:53
larsksThat's sort of what I was saying :)14:53
adaclarsks, yes for that. Thank god now I'm seeing already a lot clearer trough this network jungle :)14:53
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adacSam-I-Am, larsks for hetzner you can buy additiional ip range. We did this for our openvz setup14:54
Sam-I-Amyou can't make inbound connectivity work with 1 ip, but you can make outbound work via clever nat rules14:54
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adacSam-I-Am, But I o get it right: If I can have an Ip range on my hosting provider then it is no problem at all having several nics on the host, right?14:57
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Sam-I-Amthose are sort of two different things14:57
Sam-I-Amyou only need 1 nic, at least for a lab14:57
Sam-I-Amyou need more than 1 ip to make external connectivity work with your openstack VMs... and your provider cant lock your ip range to a specific mac address either.14:58
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adacSam-I-Am, "a lab" what you mean with that if I may ask?15:00
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Sam-I-Amnot production15:01
Sam-I-Amas in, you're not running anything useful15:01
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Nova_LogicIs there a way to use openstack without neutron or nova?15:07
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ccaterNova_Logic: why would you want that?15:07
ccaterNova_Logic: I am a noob, but that seems conter productive, if you just want pure compute re-sources then just use Nova-networking and don't configure it.15:08
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Nova_Logicbecause we need orchestration for deploying cisco csr in kvm15:08
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ccaterhmm, well in theory you are still going to need networking... you need that router guest to actually be able to route traffic no?15:09
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Sam-I-Amyour vms need to connect to something15:09
Nova_Logicand we planned to use hardware-accelerated ethernet adapters15:09
Sam-I-Amso there's no way around that15:09
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ccaterNova_Logic: that's fine. just use nova-networking with a Flat networking model, where no NAT is being used.15:10
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Nova_Logicour vas connects to network cards directly, that giving us better net performance15:10
ccateror potentially Neutron Networking with provider networks.15:10
Nova_Logicthan ovs or something else15:10
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Nova_LogicSR-IOV is better in our case, because it gives direct access to HW15:13
ccaterNova_Logic: basically you want pass through nic's what hypervisor is this deploying on KVM?15:13
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Sam-I-Amneutron just needs to provide an pi15:14
Sam-I-Amapi15:14
Sam-I-Amit does not need to do any of the actual networking15:14
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sc68calSam-I-Am: ++15:15
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Nova_Logicwe need to deploy Cisco CSR in KVM based on workloads or customer needs, and need to pass all traffic from sr-iov-supported card directly to VM's and output from that15:15
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Nova_LogicSam-I-Am ok, thx15:16
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ccaterUnrelated question, Does anyone know why when using devstack, with the underlying hypervisor being XenServer, it seems to create guests with different options then the defaults that you get if you deployed a guest directly on XenServer? Specifically i am curious about the qemu options that get used regarding serial ports?15:17
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ccateris there a way to tweak these?15:17
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Sam-I-Amsc68cal: ohai15:19
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diogogmtis anybody familiar with the new firewall plugin? i’m trying to find some info documenting the difference and pros and cons of running the new firewall plugins vs security groups15:28
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diogogmtwould they run in conjunction or just one or another?15:29
diogogmtfrom my understanding the firewall uses iptables to filter the traffic at the tenant router level while security groups only filter the traffic of the vms at the hypervisor level, is that accurate?15:29
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larsksdiogogmt: I believe that's correct.15:47
larsksYou could certainly use both firewall and security groups, although the opportunities there for conflicting rules seems high...15:47
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adacSam-I-Am, Ok I see yes. Yeah wnated just to know how it will work in production also. Thanks for clarification! Tahnk you larsks too! See you guys!16:12
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asmodaiDoes anybody have a clouds.yaml file to share that does v2token? I keep running into 401 and I am fairly certain it's only a minor thing I misconfigured that I need to fix.17:06
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mnaser#success "The OVS agent may now be restarted without affecting data plane connectivity." finally!17:15
openstackstatusmnaser: Added success to Success page17:15
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bitblthi, if i am using ceph for block storage, can i use swift for the backup driver?17:15
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Sam-I-Amlast i checked, swift does not do block storage17:20
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bitbltit would be block device as file17:27
bitbltI would hope...eg dump the rbd to disk, then push the file to swift...17:27
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larsksbitblt: I don't think your choice of cinder driver impacts your choice of cinder backup driver...that is, I would *expect* you can use the swift backup driver along with any volume driver.17:49
larsks...but I don't know that for certain.17:49
larsksI would just try setting it up -- which is quick -- and backing up a small volume.17:49
bitbltthat's what I am thinking, my big concern is incrementals...17:49
bitblt yeah I am doing that now17:49
larsksAh, I have no idea about incrementals.17:49
bitbltI just don't want to be shoving 50GB images into swift for every backup I take17:50
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Sam-I-Amshardy: ping18:58
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asmodaiWhen doing a curl on a v2.0/tokens URL with my credentials I get a token id back, however the serviceCatalog is empty. Am I missing something obvious I need to pass in the curl call?19:02
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larsksasmodai: are you providing a tenant name/id in your request?19:09
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asmodailarsks: Initially no, but after I tried both id and name and get the same result19:11
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larsksasmodai: Interesting.  Do you successfully get a service catalog in the response when running, e.g, 'keystone --debug token-get'?19:11
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asmodailarsks: I assume I also need to provide all the authentication parameters to that call as well?19:12
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larsksasmodai: Yes. I was sort of assuming that you had credentials in your environment already from an rc file...19:13
asmodailarsks: Well, I have a clouds.yaml but kept running into 401 using 'openstack', so I resorted to raw calls to see what's going wrong19:14
larsksasmodai: what is 'clouds.yaml'?19:14
larsksAnd where did it come from?19:14
Sam-I-Amsounds like shade19:15
asmodaia yaml file that contains various parameters :)19:15
asmodaiSam-I-Am: I think that's it yes19:15
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larsksasmodai: do you have access to the web ui for your openstack environment?  I'm curious if you were to just download the credentials file from openstack and use that first to verify functionality whether that would point at anything obviously missing or incorrect.19:16
asmodailarsks: Yeah, got web access, was looking at getting full Ansible deployments working using the API and ran into these problems19:17
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larsksUnderstood.  I am just suggesting a test...19:17
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larsksGrabbing your credentials from .../dashboard/project/access_and_security/api_access/openrc/ and trying those out using, e.g., the keystone command above.19:18
blonkelhey guys im using swift to upload a big file (currently ~550mb splitted into 100mb chunks). If i dont split it everything works fine, if i split the file into chunks it uploads some chunks19:18
larsksIf it works...you're probably just missing something in your clouds.yaml file.19:18
blonkeland then hangs with 100% cpu usage on the others19:18
blonkelany idears?19:18
* larsks knows no swift.19:18
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blonkelswift 2.3.119:18
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asmodailarsks: weird thing is, using that keystone token-get setup with credentials, I am getting a 401 on the POST to /v2.0/tokens19:19
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asmodaiI am now thoroughly confused19:19
Sam-I-Am'keystone' no longer works with kilo+19:19
Sam-I-Amor anywhere using v319:19
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asmodaiSam-I-Am: they're not using kilo at least19:20
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larsksBut a vanilla kilo deploy will typically still have v2.0 enabled, yeah?19:20
Sam-I-Amsort of19:20
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Sam-I-Amdepends how you deployed it19:20
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larsksasmodai: so try "openstack catalog show" instead :)19:21
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asmodainot 100% if dmidecode is accurate, but that showed 2014.1.3, which would be icehouse?19:21
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Sam-I-Amyep, icehouse19:22
Sam-I-Amwhich is no longer supported19:22
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asmodaiSam-I-Am: I still need to raise this with them, still evaluating their setup19:23
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Sam-I-Ami dont think the 'openstack' client existed with icehouse, so not sure if it would even work19:23
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asmodailarsks: catalog show, the GET on /v2.0 is 200, but the POST to /v2.0/tokens gets a 40119:24
larsksSam-I-Am: I was just suggesting an alternative to keystone for kilo+  :)19:24
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larsksasmodai: That so far just suggests a credentials problem...19:24
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asmodailarsks: Which is weird given the curl call did the same thing :S19:24
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asmodaiI am really missing/not seeing something (fairly obvious).19:25
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larsksI thought you were successfully getting a token with curl?19:26
asmodaiyep19:26
larsksOh, I see that "did the same thing" you mean "made the same request", but had a different response. Right?19:26
asmodaiRight, sorry for not being clear enough19:26
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larsksAnd the http request from keystone looks identical to your curl request?19:26
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asmodaiMmm, even with --debug it only shows POST /v2.0/tokens HTTP/1.1 but doesn't show the body19:27
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larsksOh, bummer, I thought it id.d19:28
larsks*did.19:28
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asmodaiso my exact call: keystone/openstack --debug --os-tenant-id "IDHERE" --os-username "myuser@domain.tld" --os-password "myt0psecret" --os-auth-url https://domain.tld/v2.0 <command>19:31
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asmodaiShould be correct, right?19:32
larsksasmodai: that works for me, certainly.19:32
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larsksasmodai: oh, hold on, I'm assuming that you're specifying a port in that url?19:32
asmodaino, they didn't document that on their site19:33
larsksOkay, not a problem.  If you're able to get a response from the /v2.0 endpoint I guess they are actually running keystone on port 80...19:33
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asmodaiI think I need to log a support call with them, because it seems something's wonky. Their doc page also lists the curl call and the output gives a populated serviceCatalog array19:34
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larsksSounds like a plan.  I'm out of  ideas! :)19:35
asmodailarsks: Well, you helped me stay sane at least :)19:35
asmodaiWas tearing my hair out today trying to get this working.19:35
asmodaiShould I be concerned about the version of their OpenStack installation? I mean, lagging I don't mind, but EOL seems potentially problematic19:35
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Sam-I-Amasmodai: is this some public cloud company?19:37
asmodaiSam-I-Am: Yep19:37
Sam-I-Amhow do you know they're on icehouse?19:37
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asmodaiSam-I-Am: dmidecode on a server instance showed 2014.1.3 in the output19:38
Sam-I-Amah19:38
asmodaiI assume that's safe enough to correlate to OpenStack versions?19:38
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Sam-I-Amwell, a lot of places seldom upgrade... or they have implemented lots of custom stuff19:39
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asmodaiThey do have their own custom web frontend and some other tie-ins19:39
Sam-I-Amsome policies may prevent what you can see too19:40
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asmodaiSam-I-Am: Gotcha.19:40
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asmodaiI will ask them about it and their policy, since I will need to take this info with me in our auditing19:41
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asmodailarsks / Sam-I-Am : Thanks, I sent out a ticket about this. Found a few posts on ask.openstack which seem to indicate some misconfiguration or credential problem in the database, not sure if that's applicable to them as well.19:52
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notmynameblonkel: did you figure out the swift question? if not, I can try to help19:53
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ashishjainhello, need some help with an issue which I am facing in kilo20:15
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asmodaiashishjain: Better to describe what the issue is. Many lurkers and other people who check in from time to time.20:20
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ashishjainasmodai: hello20:28
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ashishjainWhenever I spin off a VM I see the following issue20:29
ashishjaininstance_uuid=instance.uuid, reason=six.text_type(e))\n', u'RescheduledException: Build of instance 2bd7fcda-d2da-42c5-b114-5f4f0ee4edea was re-scheduled: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed20:29
ashishjainfollowed by NoValidHost: No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts availabl20:29
ashishjainI am using vxlan network20:30
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blonkelanyone using joss java library?20:31
blonkelis there a way for parallel segment uploads?20:31
ashishjainI get the same error if I use flat networks too20:31
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joshbussHello, anyone ever see this error and have any recommendations on what would cause it? http://paste.openstack.org/show/476427/20:33
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shardySam-I-Am: pong20:36
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ashishjainone more error which I see continuosly in neutron-linuxbridge-agent.log in compute node is -> http://paste.openstack.org/show/476429/20:38
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ashishjainI have also seen a bug which somewhat is related to the error I see in neutron-linuxbridge-agent.log -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/143287320:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1432873 in openstack-ansible juno "Add FDB bridge entry fails if old entry not removed" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Kevin Carter (kevin-carter)20:39
larsksjoshbuss: that often means that something isn't talking to your amqp server correctly.  Are there any errors in the nova conductor log?20:39
ashishjainMy network definition on neutron network agent and compute node seems fine,20:40
ashishjainKindly help20:40
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larsksashishjain: which version of openstack are you running?20:42
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joshbusslarsks: No nothing really of interest there, no errors or anything. Just info about joining20:43
ashishjainlarsks:kilo20:43
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ashishjainsome details about my network creation and the command I use to boot a nova instance -> http://paste.openstack.org/show/476432/20:47
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larsksashishjain: I haven't used the linuxbridge plugin myself, but I'm suspicious that it seems to throwing an error because 'bridge fdb help' is throwing an error...20:49
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larsksAs far as I can tell, all of the iproute commands return 255 when passed 'help'.20:49
ashishjainlarsks: I do not see error when I run "bridge fdb help"20:50
ashishjaininstead I see its usage definition20:50
larsksYes, exactly, but check the return code.20:50
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larsksThat's exactly what you see in the logs you pasted: the usage def on stderr, plus a return code of 255.20:51
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larsksAnd for some reason it looks as if this is causing the agent to give up.20:51
larsksPossibly running with debug=true would yield more useful information (like a full traceback), but you probably need to find someone with more experience with the linuxbridge agent.20:51
ashishjainlarsks: yes you are correct return code of 255 and the log is continuosuly moving20:51
larsksAlso, it's about 5pm where I am, and I have to go put some dinner together...20:52
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ashishjainlarsks: Which irc shall I knock?20:52
larsksI would say here, maybe, but during US business hours...or possibly the openstack mailing list.20:53
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ashishjainlarsks: alright thanks I will contact during US business hours20:54
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skaHow does cinder on the controller (cinder-api) know where the other cinder-volume servers are? I see no configuration info in /etc/cinder/cinder.conf20:59
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skaon the cinder-api node.21:00
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skaBut somehow it knows the correct info ..21:00
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Sam-I-Amthe cinder volumes write themselves to the db21:02
ccaterrunning devstack on xenserver seems to disable the serial ports of any vms booted anyideas?21:03
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georgem1ska: cinder-api uses rabbitmq to talk to the cinder-volume21:16
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skaSo that info is in rabbit-mq configs?21:28
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skaSam-I-Am: Thanks.. That would make a lot of sense. Seems like I can create the volume from anywhere too.21:30
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skageorgem1: That also makes some sense.21:31
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evilrobI'm going to add modifying the default access group to my post install config.21:42
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evilrobit always bites me.  get it working, but can't ping or ssh to the test instance.  beat my head on it for an hour.21:43
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Sam-I-Amnice21:45
Sam-I-Ammore beer21:45
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evilrobwhat really got me though was that the linuxbridge had both eth0 and eth1 in it21:47
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evilrobI'd screwed up the ml2_conf.ini and it had eth0 as the interface.  So lb created the bridge across eth0.20621:48
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evilrobthat didn't work.  I fixed the config, restarted the agent, and then it had eth0.206 AND eth1.206 is interfaces for the bridge21:48
evilrobcouldn't remove the eth0 one with brctl21:48
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evilrobso I kicked the machine.  oh look.. it all works now.21:49
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evilrobI'm sure there was some way to fix it, but I boot these boxen after I'm done anyway, so I just kicked it21:54
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luchoHi openstack! I'm trying to figure out how do swift do to determine where to place replicas.. please, I need a hand23:17
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luchoThere's a way to tell swift create replicas in a specific "device"?23:19
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PrincessZoeyI'm trying to create a tenant network, and its saying "unable to create the network. No Tenant network is available for allocation. (Http 503)23:31
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Sam-I-AmPrincessZoey: sounds like your didnt include enough configuration for tenant networks?23:31
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PrincessZoeyreboot fixed it.23:36
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