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| soren | o/ | 08:09 |
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| zykes- | soren: does openstack support console etc now ? | 08:30 |
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| soren | zykes-: What do you mean, exactly? | 08:40 |
| zykes- | is there any console support at the momemnt ? | 08:41 |
| soren | You can get the console output using GetConsoleOutput. | 08:42 |
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| zykes- | what about vnc like console then soren ? | 08:54 |
| soren | Not at the moment. | 08:54 |
| zykes- | k | 08:54 |
| zykes- | is that planned for bexar ? | 08:54 |
| alekibango | zykes-: there is a blueprint for console over the web | 08:54 |
| alekibango | using ajax iirc | 08:54 |
| zykes- | iirc ? | 08:54 |
| alekibango | if i remember correctly | 08:55 |
| zykes- | ah | 08:55 |
| alekibango | zykes-: i am also for vnc | 08:55 |
| zykes- | or you could support all ? ;p | 08:55 |
| alekibango | but there is also NX and the new kid on the block, spice from redhat... | 08:55 |
| alekibango | i never actually seen spice working, but i think we should consider those | 08:56 |
| alekibango | vnc is deadly slow | 08:56 |
| alekibango | zykes-: do you know/use nx? | 08:56 |
| zykes- | spice was pretty ok | 08:56 |
| zykes- | when i used RHEV | 08:56 |
| zykes- | i've used nx from nomachines yes. | 08:57 |
| alekibango | spice is still not yet accepted standard.... and NX is ugly hack :) but works well | 08:57 |
| alekibango | still there are potential security problems with it | 08:57 |
| zykes- | what's wrong with spice ? | 08:58 |
| alekibango | its not in qemu | 08:58 |
| alekibango | you need to patch it | 08:58 |
| zykes- | then maybe one should get that forward | 08:58 |
| alekibango | well, i would say go for it, but thats not blocked by me | 08:58 |
| zykes- | by who ? :p | 08:59 |
| alekibango | i can only guess... | 08:59 |
| alekibango | but imho it will go in soon | 09:00 |
| alekibango | as redhat chooses kvm for the future | 09:00 |
| alekibango | http://www.spice-space.org/ | 09:00 |
| alekibango | zykes-: my personal goal with openstack (not required by my client) is running desktops from cloud | 09:01 |
| zykes- | i know... Spice is allready in RHEV | 09:01 |
| zykes- | it came from Qumranet so | 09:01 |
| alekibango | yes | 09:01 |
| alekibango | ha, they actually released some new versions i see | 09:02 |
| alekibango | i didnt look for almost year | 09:02 |
| zykes- | how you mean by that ? ;p | 09:02 |
| alekibango | they had no releases for some time... | 09:03 |
| alekibango | now its more alive | 09:03 |
| zykes- | ah | 09:03 |
| alekibango | which is good sign | 09:03 |
| alekibango | zykes-: can u compare nx to spice in terms of speed? | 09:03 |
| zykes- | don't have access to spice for the time being | 09:04 |
| alekibango | i am pretty satisfied with nx - it works like charm (freenx) | 09:04 |
| alekibango | still its ugly hack on old for of X | 09:04 |
| alekibango | :) | 09:05 |
| alekibango | for virtual machines, spice might make sense | 09:05 |
| alekibango | s/for of X/ fork of X/ | 09:05 |
| zykes- | well it's made for it so | 09:08 |
| alekibango | zykes-: well, swine flu vaccines were made to 'make you safe' but i will not take one... | 09:08 |
| alekibango | but you are right | 09:09 |
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| zykes- | http://vimeo.com/17007388 < hmmm, Ewan productize with ESXi, XenServer and Hyper-V, why not KVM i wonder | 11:15 |
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| sandywalsh | http://twistedmatrix.com/pipermail/twisted-python/2010-November/023190.html | 12:44 |
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| soren | Gawd, I hate SOAP. | 13:13 |
| zykes- | where it that used ? | 13:15 |
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| soren | zykes-: In hell. | 13:38 |
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| zul | which level of hell though | 13:50 |
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| soren | All of them, I think. | 13:53 |
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| zykes- | :p | 14:02 |
| alekibango | +1 | 14:03 |
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| zul | soren: i don understand commit #425 how does it simplify the packaging? | 14:16 |
| soren | zul: Look in the packaging branch. | 14:17 |
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| zul | soren: ah ok | 14:19 |
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| soren | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-packagers/ubuntu/natty/nova/ubuntu/revision/24 for those following at home | 14:19 |
| zykes- | what about that soren ? | 14:23 |
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| soren | zykes-: Hm? | 14:26 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #683137 in nova "CA code doesn't get installed by "setup.py install"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683137 | 14:38 |
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| sandywalsh | is the swift mailing list going to merge with the nova mailing list, or will that be kept separate? | 14:41 |
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| sandywalsh | Did anyone notice the reach-out from the Tahoe-LAFS team to work with Swift? https://lists.launchpad.net/swift/msg00023.html Seems like a great fit. dendrobates? | 14:45 |
| dendrobates | I'll admit I didn't | 14:46 |
| dendrobates | sandywalsh: it is all going to merge. Blame thanksgiving, or it would be done already. | 14:47 |
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| sandywalsh | dendrobates, have you looked at Tahoe? | 14:56 |
| dendrobates | no | 14:57 |
| soren | I have. A while ago. | 14:57 |
| soren | It uses a clever bit of data coding magic to distribute data across N backends in a way such that you you need M of the distributed parts to reconstruct the original data. Without less than M pieces, you have nothing. | 15:00 |
| soren | It's similar to Adi Shamir's secret sharing algorithm, but uses less space. | 15:01 |
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| soren | Erasure coding! | 15:03 |
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| soren | That's what it's called. Phew, good thing I finally remembered. that would have kept me awake all night pondering :) | 15:04 |
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| creiht | sandywalsh: It seemed like less of a friendly hand, and more like spam to me | 15:49 |
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| sandywalsh | creiht, zooko is solid. He sees the merit of both systems working together. | 15:50 |
| creiht | Except the only mails that he has sent to the lists are press releases for the latest releases of LAFS | 15:51 |
| creiht | https://lists.launchpad.net/swift/ | 15:52 |
| sandywalsh | yeah, I can see how you would form that opinion. I guess the project doesn't have the weight of RS & Nasa behind it. | 15:52 |
| creiht | It may be a great project, and I'm all for sharing, but I'm not keen on spaming other peoples mailing list, trying to get your project mor press | 15:53 |
| zaitcev | I do not want to buddy with that stupid asshole either. | 15:54 |
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| sandywalsh | that's fair. I guess we can slap wrists later :) I'm just trying to shed a little light on what might be a nice fit. | 15:54 |
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| creiht | lol | 15:55 |
| sandywalsh | :) | 15:55 |
| sandywalsh | perhaps something I'm missing here | 15:56 |
| johnpur | btw, we have looked at solutions involving erasure coding and Swift. it is a possible way to lessen the cost burdens of redundant copies for availability purposes. | 15:56 |
| zaitcev | Yea, like the concept of spam. | 15:56 |
| johnpur | big architectural change tho | 15:57 |
| creiht | johnpur: likes erasure coding :) | 15:57 |
| johnpur | :) | 15:57 |
| johnpur | <- erasure code fanboy | 15:58 |
| sandywalsh | would it be beneficial to have him join us on the channel for a chat? | 15:59 |
| creiht | Anyone is welcome on this channel to chat :) | 16:00 |
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| sandywalsh | johnpur, I don't really know enough about the pro's/con's (and have no agenda here ... just making introductions). But perhaps the arch change will be smaller with a partner? | 16:02 |
| sandywalsh | or have it as a plug-in? | 16:02 |
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| creiht | sandywalsh: we have tossed around the idea of doing something like erasure coding, but it would require a complete re-architecting of the backend | 16:06 |
| creiht | And make the code/system much more complex | 16:06 |
| creiht | Turns out that the simple solution works quite well for us :) | 16:08 |
| creiht | I had looked a little a tahoe a while back, and it didn't really support our use case | 16:09 |
| sandywalsh | creiht, understandable. Do you think as openstack adoption increases the need for client-based encryption will increase as well? | 16:10 |
| creiht | That is unknown, but I'm sure we will address it if it comes up :) | 16:10 |
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| sandywalsh | perhaps it's a similar problem to the openstack vs. ec2 api problem in nova ... could the swift api be the standard and the implementations pluggable? (I'm spit-balling here) i.e. does a consumer need to adopt the whole stack? | 16:12 |
| creiht | On encryption, for swift, nothing prevents the clients from encrypting their data | 16:13 |
| sandywalsh | true | 16:14 |
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| creiht | the swift api is the "standard" storage api for openstack, of course everything else is an implementation detail :) | 16:15 |
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| creiht | but even then, as I understand it the storage stuff for nova is plugable, so that doesn't even require a swift api (if you want to write code at that layer instead) | 16:17 |
| creiht | or will be plugable | 16:17 |
| sandywalsh | hmm, but wouldn't that just fragment swift (if the swift clients need drivers for each different implementation)? | 16:20 |
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| creiht | sandywalsh: depends on if you are wanting generic storage, or just storage to store your images on | 16:23 |
| sandywalsh | should it matter what the blob contains? | 16:24 |
| creiht | no | 16:24 |
| creiht | at least from swift's point of view | 16:25 |
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| alekibango | sandywalsh: swift is more likely suitable for cold storage. for images of live instances, it would be suboptimal... sheepdog might be interesting for that.. | 16:27 |
| sandywalsh | alekibango, that's an interesting point. I clearly need to get more hands-on with swift. | 16:29 |
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| jaypipes | gundlach: looks like nova/tests/api/openstack/test_auth.py in test_authorize_token is returning some stubbed out URL instead of the x-server-management-url ? | 16:36 |
| gundlach | jaypipes: yeah, looking at that now, thanks. | 16:37 |
| gundlach | x-server-mgmt-url contains 'self.host' and either the test or the code isn't setting host to 'foo' here. | 16:37 |
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| gundlach | _cerberus_: in nova.tests.api.openstack.test_auth.Test.test_authorize_token, is the test supposed to call fake_auth_init() on something to set its self.host to 'foo'? | 16:43 |
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| gundlach | _cerberus_: i don't quite get how fake_auth_init and FakeAuthManager and stubbing out BasicApiAuthManager.__init__ work together. | 16:44 |
| zykes- | alekibango: what about tahoe-lafs ? | 16:44 |
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| zykes- | nvm | 16:46 |
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| mtaylor | morning eday | 16:51 |
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| alekibango | zykes-: tahoe-lafs might be fun, but its not a match | 16:58 |
| sandywalsh | gundlach, the failing test is one I wrote when I had the management-flag in there. You can probably remove the test now with your changes. | 17:02 |
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| gundlach | sandywalsh: hm, i didn't realize your code landed in trunk. you sure? | 17:05 |
| sandywalsh | gundlach, it didn't, but you made your changes from my branch, yes? | 17:05 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm getting an error trying to run euca-describe images in trunk: TypeError: index() takes exactly 2 arguments (3 given) | 17:06 |
| gundlach | sandywalsh: nope, from trunk, i thought | 17:06 |
| sandywalsh | gundlach, hmm, don't think | 17:06 |
| gundlach | sandywalsh: the test refers to 'herp' and 'derp' so i'm pretty sure _cerberus_ wrote it :) | 17:06 |
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| sandywalsh | ah | 17:06 |
| gundlach | sandywalsh: i'll go doublecheck | 17:06 |
| Ryan_Lane | has something changed? I'm using nova.sh... | 17:06 |
| eday | mtaylor: morning | 17:10 |
| _cerberus_ | gundlach: I'm here | 17:10 |
| gundlach | _cerberus_: see question above re fake_auth_init() | 17:10 |
| _cerberus_ | repaste please. I don't backlog this room | 17:11 |
| gundlach | _cerberus_: in nova.tests.api.openstack.test_auth.Test.test_authorize_token, is the test supposed to call fake_auth_init() on something to set its self.host to 'foo'? | 17:11 |
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| gundlach | <gundlach> _cerberus_: i don't quite get how fake_auth_init and FakeAuthManager and stubbing out BasicApiAuthManager.__init__ work together. | 17:11 |
| _cerberus_ | Lemme look | 17:12 |
| gundlach | (https://code.launchpad.net/~gundlach/nova/server-management-url/+merge/42194 is failing and i'm not sure why) | 17:12 |
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| gundlach | _cerberus_: it kind of looks like I need to instantiate BasicApiAuthManager in my test, since setUp() stubs out its __init__ with fake_auth_init which sets self.host to 'foo'. | 17:13 |
| dubsquared | greetings, #openstack — anyone seen this recently: root@openstack111:/etc/nova# euca-describe-images | 17:14 |
| dubsquared | TypeError: index() takes exactly 2 arguments (3 given) | 17:14 |
| dubsquared | i have running instances…but i just want a listing so i can spin up others with different ami info.. | 17:15 |
| Ryan_Lane | dubsquared: I'm having the same problem :( | 17:15 |
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| dubsquared | ryan_lane: are you having any success ssh'ing to your running instances? | 17:16 |
| Ryan_Lane | haven't tried lately | 17:16 |
| Ryan_Lane | dubsquared: did you set up the default security group? | 17:16 |
| dubsquared | i can ping and ssh to them, but they are telling me password is wrong…but i snapped the image off the controller | 17:16 |
| sandywalsh | I think there were changes to nova.sh in github that aren't in contrib yet | 17:17 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah. | 17:17 |
| dubsquared | euca-authorize -P icmp -t -1:-1 default | 17:17 |
| dubsquared | euca-authorize -P tcp -p 22 default | 17:17 |
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| dubsquared | yes | 17:17 |
| dubsquared | not sure how this login info is not working :| | 17:17 |
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| Ryan_Lane | dubsquared: are you connecting with a key? | 17:18 |
| dubsquared | nah | 17:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | or are you using an image that has a password? | 17:18 |
| dubsquared | correct | 17:18 |
| _cerberus_ | gundlach: Try creating an instance of that class, as you suggested | 17:21 |
| _cerberus_ | Because my stub code definitely overrides the host, which is how the solution worked previously | 17:21 |
| gundlach | _cerberus_: don't do anything with it, just instantiate one? | 17:21 |
| gundlach | _cerberus_: ok | 17:21 |
| _cerberus_ | gundlach: actually, since you replaced the url with the correct one, you probably need to find a way to stub req.url | 17:23 |
| _cerberus_ | or at least get it to return what you want it to | 17:23 |
| gundlach | _cerberus_: ok, sorry for my ignorance. looks like instantiating BasicApiAuthManager doesn't cut it, but i'll try stubbing req.url as you suggested after lunch | 17:23 |
| gundlach | thx! | 17:23 |
| _cerberus_ | gundlach: see what I'm saying? The stub code would handle it IF you were still using host | 17:24 |
| _cerberus_ | But since you're not... | 17:24 |
| _cerberus_ | and you're welcome :-) | 17:24 |
| gundlach | ahh, right :) ok | 17:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | and the github version of nova.sh doesn't work either | 17:28 |
| * Ryan_Lane sighs | 17:28 | |
| dendrobates | vishy: I'm merging trunk back into the raw-disk-images and I have a question about the rescue mode changes to nova/virt/libvirt_conn.py | 17:30 |
| dendrobates | vishy: I think changes need to be made to handle rescuing raw images with no kernel or ramdisk in the xml. | 17:32 |
| zaitcev | "Ryan_Lane> I'm getting an error trying to run euca-describe images in trunk: TypeError: index() takes exactly 2 arguments (3 given)" -- if there's a space between describe and images... | 17:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | that space was a typo | 17:34 |
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| Ryan_Lane | I'm typing: euca-describe-images | 17:35 |
| dendrobates | vishy: actaully I looked at it again, and I think it will work unchanged. I just didn't want to break it. | 17:38 |
| zaitcev | Actually I am not very impressed with euca2ools, I am wondering if a fork exists. | 17:39 |
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| zaitcev | For one thing, they are far from a drop-in replacement, e.g. command line options are not compatible. | 17:40 |
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| zaitcev | 2. retarded random bugs like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=658560 | 17:41 |
| uvirtbot | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 658560 in euca2ools "fail with a trailing slash" [Medium,New] | 17:41 |
| zaitcev | or plainly not working right (e.g. missing images) | 17:41 |
| zaitcev | 3. Contribution mechanism is screwed-up with copyright assignments | 17:41 |
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| Ryan_Lane | is no one else having this problem with trunk? | 17:43 |
| JordanRinke | what is wrong? | 17:44 |
| Ryan_Lane | euca-describe-images is throwing the following error: TypeError: index() takes exactly 2 arguments (3 given) | 17:44 |
| zykes- | any howto guide on siwft ? | 17:46 |
| zykes- | swift. | 17:46 |
| JordanRinke | swift.openstack.org has good doc on swift | 17:46 |
| JordanRinke | including install instructions that I have used before and they were flawless | 17:46 |
| zaitcev | zykes-: Use SAIO for testing, normal config from wiki for production. | 17:47 |
| JordanRinke | Ryan_Lane: intersting - what OS? | 17:47 |
| Ryan_Lane | ubuntu 10.04 lts | 17:47 |
| zykes- | zaitcev: SAIO ? | 17:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm getting the same response when using aws-sdk | 17:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | which means something is likely broken in the api | 17:48 |
| JordanRinke | odd, I have used those tools with no problems on that OS | 17:48 |
| JordanRinke | do you ahve your novarc file setup and is it loaded? | 17:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah. it isn't giving me a 403 | 17:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | other commands work fine | 17:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | such as euca-describe-instances | 17:49 |
| JordanRinke | interesting | 17:49 |
| zaitcev | zykes-: Like http://swift.openstack.org/development_saio.html (also included into installed docs) | 17:49 |
| JordanRinke | Ryan_Lanen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/681600 :( | 17:51 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 681600 in nova "DescribeImages without image_id argument broken" [Medium,Triaged] | 17:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | gah | 17:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | that's a PITA | 17:51 |
| JordanRinke | indeed | 17:52 |
| * annegentle growls at the typo on the SAIO (my bad) :) | 17:58 | |
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| dantti_work | hi, I've just installed openstack but adding iso does not work (at least not with http and file:/), with http the item shows but after refresh it's gone, which log should I look to get what is going on? | 18:18 |
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| xtoddx | how do i make sense of a "bzr praise FILENAME" revision number? It looks like 504.1.7, but it doesn't show up in revision 504 on launchpad web view. | 18:23 |
| JordanRinke | dantti_work: can you explain a little more? | 18:23 |
| eday | xtoddx: are you looking at the same branch? each branch could be numbered differently | 18:24 |
| xtoddx | eday: yea same branch ~anso/nova/deploy in both places | 18:24 |
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| xtoddx | i just plugged the revision number into the URL with the dots and at seems to work, but I hate that it isn't discoverable | 18:25 |
| dantti_work | JordanRinke: sure, well I go to "Templates" -> "ISO" -> add an Iso, fill the fields, pass an url to the iso (on a http server) click create. It then shows up on the list but when I click refresh the iso item is gone | 18:25 |
| dantti_work | and I can't create a new vm | 18:25 |
| zykes- | dantti_work: what GUI ? | 18:26 |
| dantti_work | dunno it's called cloud.com console, which looking around the web drove me to this irc channel :P | 18:27 |
| dantti_work | maybe it has nothing to do :P | 18:27 |
| JordanRinke | dantti_work: I don't think that is an actual part of OpenStack | 18:27 |
| JordanRinke | as far as I know openstack currently has no UI | 18:27 |
| dantti_work | hmm sorry then... ah it's so hard to find a goot ui to kvm | 18:28 |
| * dantti_work feels stupid :P | 18:28 | |
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| annegentle | dantti_work: nah, don't feel stupid, we're working on a Live ISO to play around with OpenStack but I don't know if you can use it on Cloud.com, might be a good place to test though. | 18:41 |
| dantti_work | annegentle: right, so is openStack another cloud management ui? | 18:42 |
| dantti_work | I have tried so many guis to get rid of vm server terreble ui :P but no lucky still | 18:42 |
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| dantti_work | open.cloud.com was the first ui that installed and seems powerfull enough but I can't create a vm in it... | 18:43 |
| annegentle | dantti_work: no GUI, yet. | 18:43 |
| vishy | dendrobates: I would think the rescue mode code would work, although I think we should add a flag to images specifying whether they are whole disk. | 18:43 |
| annegentle | dantti_work: and yeah, seems like the UI should cover the basics :) | 18:44 |
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| dantti_work | annegentle: sure, hope you can provide a good alternative though, another gui that seems promising is Archipel but it never gets released :P | 18:45 |
| annegentle | dantti_work: we're working on it I assure you :) | 18:46 |
| dantti_work | nice thanks | 18:46 |
| alekibango | dantti_work: web ui and desktop ui will be there for openstack, few months later | 18:46 |
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| xtoddx | alekibango dantti_work: greenisus is also working on an iOS/mobile UI | 18:49 |
| alekibango | yes i know | 18:50 |
| alekibango | i categorized that under 'desktop' hehe | 18:50 |
| alekibango | you are right, its different | 18:50 |
| dantti_work | well if I had time I could try to help with maybe a Qt plugin for desktops but I alread have too many os projects to care about :P | 18:51 |
| alekibango | dantti_work: this project is not like any other. you will see that soon :) | 18:52 |
| greenisus | xtoddx alekibango dantti_work yeah, that's right. i'm working on the iOS client right now, and we just started the openstack-client-developers in launchpad. you should join to keep up with it! | 18:52 |
| alekibango | greenisus: i dont use such tools... i am more interested in desktop | 18:52 |
| alekibango | but i will watch | 18:52 |
| greenisus | alekibango we're also working on web clients. no desktop app plans at the moment | 18:53 |
| alekibango | ah, thats my area of interest | 18:53 |
| alekibango | but i have heard some other web management console will be released soon, right vishy? | 18:53 |
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| dantti_work | yep, I also don't have any iHardware ... | 18:54 |
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| notmyname | greenisus: where did you hear the top 2% stat? | 18:56 |
| greenisus | from dendrobates on the phone :) | 18:56 |
| alekibango | ? what 2% stat? | 18:57 |
| dendrobates | notmyname: http://www.ohloh.net/p/novacc/factoids/3911016 | 18:57 |
| JordanRinke | yeah, I was about to ask the same thing, what 2%? | 18:57 |
| alekibango | wow | 18:57 |
| alekibango | i think when we will talk about importance, it will be at least top 0.3% :) | 18:58 |
| dendrobates | true, I don't know their methodology | 18:58 |
| notmyname | seems that their search is broken | 19:00 |
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| greenisus | yeah, sorry for not clarifying there :) | 19:02 |
| notmyname | and as a small nit to pick, openstack != nova ;-) | 19:03 |
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| dendrobates | notmyname: they list swift separately | 19:23 |
| notmyname | ya, I saw that | 19:23 |
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| dendrobates | but if nova > 2% than openstack > 2% | 19:24 |
| notmyname | agreed | 19:27 |
| ttx | Team meeting in 90 minutes in #openstack-meeting ! | 19:31 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #683308 in nova "AttributeError: 'FlatManager' object has no attribute 'allocate_network'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683308 | 19:32 |
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| * creiht still wonders why nova and swift are not on the launchpad.net featured projects list on the front page ;) | 19:33 | |
| * ttx doesn't trust ohloh a lot. | 19:33 | |
| * ttx looks up the lp.net front page for the first time in centuries. | 19:34 | |
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| ttx | creiht: ah! even Drizzle is in there. | 19:34 |
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| soren | It's going to be a while before I get tired of being able to just "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" and have bleeding edge packages. | 19:53 |
| soren | I wonder why more projects aren't doing it. It wasn't /that/ hard. | 19:53 |
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| ttx | mtaylor: around ? | 19:58 |
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| eday | soren: could I bug you for an approve or needs fixing with specifics? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~eday/nova/compute-abstraction/+merge/41805 | 19:59 |
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| eday | vishy: any feedback on this one before merging? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rlane/nova/ldapimprovements/+merge/40993 | 20:03 |
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| gundlach | eday: mind re-approving https://code.launchpad.net/~gundlach/nova/novash/+merge/42195 ? i merged from trunk and hudson apparently now doesn't let ninja-patches through. | 20:10 |
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| mtaylor | ttx: ola! | 20:15 |
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| ttx | mtaylor: I had a few questions on tarmac for you | 20:15 |
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| mtaylor | ttx: yes. I have all of the answers | 20:15 |
| mtaylor | ttx: you don't want to do some java hacking, do you? | 20:16 |
| ttx | mtaylor: I'll probably have to plug a CLA verifier into the workflow | 20:16 |
| ttx | mtaylor: i.e. check that the person submitting the branch actually is listed in a CLA signers list | 20:16 |
| ttx | mtaylor: sounds like a job for a tarmac plugin | 20:16 |
| mtaylor | ttx: ok. oh - so I should send you the write up on how I was planning on having things hang together | 20:16 |
| ttx | mtaylor: that would be great. | 20:17 |
| ttx | mtaylor: is the config we use stored in bzr somewhere ? | 20:17 |
| soren | eday: Let me have a look. | 20:17 |
| mtaylor | ttx: no. but it should be | 20:17 |
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| mtaylor | ttx: ACTUALLY - it sounds like a job for a hudson plugin - we need tarmac's functionality more integrated with hudson to be able to sensibly do more complex things | 20:17 |
| mtaylor | ttx: lemme dig up my email about it | 20:18 |
| ttx | mtaylor: ok | 20:18 |
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| mtaylor | ttx: you will find my current setup of tarmac to be done wrong in just about every way possible - it's installed from source from bzr trunk, and the config file is just edited directly on disk :( | 20:19 |
| ttx | mtaylor: about Java, I wouldn't mind if the last Java I ever did was on a good project like Hudson. | 20:19 |
| eday | mtaylor: you following the potential hudson fork? | 20:19 |
| ttx | eday: I've seen that. I like "Alfred". | 20:19 |
| mtaylor | eday: no. is someone going to fork it from kohsuke? | 20:20 |
| ttx | mtaylor: from Oracle, in fact. | 20:20 |
| mtaylor | oh - well, that's already done | 20:20 |
| eday | mtaylor: http://www.hudson-labs.org/content/whos-driving-thing | 20:20 |
| mtaylor | kohsuke == hudson - if oracle decides they also want to develop hudson, they can suck it | 20:20 |
| ttx | Oracle apparently owns the name. | 20:21 |
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| eday | I like the suggestion of Mr. Belvedere | 20:21 |
| mtaylor | ah. | 20:23 |
| mtaylor | fucking oracle | 20:23 |
| mtaylor | I think oracle can suck a fat dick | 20:23 |
| * mtaylor should perhaps keep those things on #drizzle | 20:23 | |
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| * mtaylor apologizes to folks here perhaps not used to his tendency towards obscenity | 20:23 | |
| ttx | mtaylor: obscenity towards Oracle is always accepted. | 20:24 |
| * ttx used to be forced to use it. | 20:24 | |
| mtaylor | ttx: do you have a new rackspace email you'd prefer I use? | 20:26 |
| ttx | mtaylor: thierry@openstack.org | 20:26 |
| ttx | Meeting in 30 minutes in #openstack-meeting | 20:31 |
| sandywalsh | I'm just going through the create code in openstack api. Sometimes it calls nova.compute.manager directly and sometimes it uses the queue. Is direct vs. indirect completely based on time-for-function-to-complete? | 20:34 |
| soren | gundlach_bbiab: With your recently landed change to the openstack API, is python-cloudservers supposed to work? I've tried changing AUTH_URL to http://127.0.0.1:8774/v1.0/, but I just get 404's back. | 20:37 |
| soren | eday: Ok, now I'm /actually/ taking a look. I got distracted by a somewhat delicate e-mail exchange that needed my attention. | 20:38 |
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| eday | soren: no worries, and thanks :) | 20:41 |
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| eday | sandywalsh: can you explain with more context? | 20:42 |
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| eday | sandywalsh: you might want to take a look at my oustanding branch if your touching code in there | 20:42 |
| mtaylor | ttx: k. sent | 20:43 |
| eday | sandywalsh: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~eday/nova/compute-abstraction/+merge/41805 this might overlap with what you're doing | 20:43 |
| mtaylor | ttx: I couldn't find what I wrote before, so I just wrote it again :) | 20:43 |
| ttx | heh | 20:44 |
| sandywalsh | eday, I was wondering why sometimes api can call compute directly and other times it has to go through the queue. | 20:45 |
| eday | sandywalsh: depends on if it should use the worker or a function in-process | 20:45 |
| sandywalsh | eday, right, and is that decision purely based on time-to-complete? | 20:46 |
| eday | sandywalsh: but a lot of this is in the process of shuffling around, we're trying to make the API do almost nothing but ship events, I think :) | 20:46 |
| sandywalsh | eday, that's the answer I was looking for | 20:46 |
| eday | sandywalsh: nope, really just depends on what you want to do | 20:46 |
| soren | eday: Followed up. | 20:46 |
| soren | bbiab | 20:46 |
| vishy | eday: I haven't tested the ldap stuff, but it all looks fine to me | 20:47 |
| sandywalsh | eday, I'm in the process of trying to get openstack calls to work with xenserver on my dev machine and just studying the code at this point. | 20:47 |
| Ryan_Lane | I tested it with and without the config option set. seems to work reliably | 20:48 |
| ttx | mtaylor: so you would get rid of tarmac completely. | 20:48 |
| sandywalsh | eday, but that just struck me as a little arbitrary. Thanks for the branch link I'll look at it. | 20:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | I didn't test it with openldap, but it shouldn't matter which ldap server is used | 20:49 |
| mtaylor | ttx: yes. once we can have it actually integrated into hudson | 20:49 |
| ttx | mtaylor: I'm not familiar with the merge queue concept and how you go from "approved merge request" to "in the merge queue". | 20:49 |
| mtaylor | ttx: they overlap in functionality too much | 20:49 |
| eday | vishy: cool, I'll go ahead and approve then | 20:50 |
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| mtaylor | ttx: oh - so they're adding a new feature to launchpad called a merge queue - this keeps the approved/denied status of a merge request separate from its life of actually being merged or not | 20:50 |
| ttx | mtaylor: If the "build" checks succeed, you push the approved merge request to the merge queue ? | 20:50 |
| mtaylor | yes | 20:50 |
| ttx | ok, that was the missing bit. | 20:50 |
| mtaylor | oops :) | 20:51 |
| mtaylor | ttx: the idea being the the 'build' checks are quick and cheap to run - so you could have 20 hudson workers doing 'build' checks on all outstanding merge requests simultaneously if you wanted to | 20:52 |
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| ttx | mtaylor: ok, I need to figure out if that plan is compatible with the timeframe we want for CLA verification. | 20:52 |
| mtaylor | ttx: but then once you're actually going to be doing integration testing, those need to be serialized more | 20:53 |
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| mtaylor | ttx: we certainly don't have to do that whole plan to get CLA verification into the mix ... you could certainly write a tarmac plugin for now and then we could just add that as a thing adrian needs to do for the hudson plugin | 20:54 |
| ttx | mtaylor: yes | 20:54 |
| mtaylor | ttx: of course, if we're going to start doing CLA checking - I would recommend that we go full-bore and require signed commits too | 20:54 |
| * mtaylor signs all of his commits already, so it wouldn't change anything for him :) | 20:55 | |
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| ttx | Team meeting in 5 minutes in #openstack-meeting | 20:56 |
| gundlach | soren: dunno yet -- as i get GroundControl working on OpenStack I may uncover other bugs. | 20:56 |
| ttx | mtaylor: let me know if I can access the current tarmac config in some way, to see how it's currently set up | 20:58 |
| mtaylor | ttx: do you have ssh access to hudson.openstack.org? | 20:59 |
| ttx | mtaylor: no. | 20:59 |
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| mtaylor | ttx: ah - well, that'll be first step - OR ... http://paste.openstack.org/show/211/ | 21:00 |
| ttx | Team meeting starting NOW in #openstack-meeting ! | 21:00 |
| mtaylor | ttx: I've also got a script half-done to add ssh account for all members of a launchpad team to a box | 21:00 |
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| ttx | jaypipes: meeting ? | 21:05 |
| gundlach | last seen 4 hrs ago | 21:05 |
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| soren | ttx: I've configured the bug trackers for Nova, Swift, and Glance to say "Please include the exact version of X with which you're experiencing this issue.". | 21:16 |
| jaypipes | ttx: /me thought it was in an hour... sorry. | 21:17 |
| soren | ttx: It's not as prominent as I'd hoped, but it's there. | 21:17 |
| ttx | soren: ah ok. Wasn't obvious last bug I filed ;) | 21:17 |
| ttx | jaypipes: no problem. I just assumed teller-api was on track. | 21:17 |
| soren | ttx: No no, I just did now. | 21:18 |
| jaypipes | ttx: yes, it is. | 21:18 |
| soren | ttx: I saw your BugLifeCycle page and saw that people should do that, so I added it on Launchpad. | 21:18 |
| ttx | soren: ah, that explains why I missed it, two days ago. | 21:18 |
| zykes- | is it meeting time ? | 21:18 |
| gundlach | yes | 21:18 |
| gundlach | #openstack-meeting | 21:18 |
| ttx | soren: BugsLifecycle is still a draft, but I still think people should do that anyway. | 21:18 |
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| gundlach | ttx: perhaps set the channel topic a couple hours ahead of time? | 21:19 |
| soren | ttx: I think I have an idea for that.. | 21:19 |
| ttx | soren: I planned to piggyback on some channel bot | 21:20 |
| soren | ttx: Let me just try it out. | 21:20 |
| soren | ttx: that could work. | 21:20 |
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| soren | ttx: How about a Google Calendar. Anyone using a calendar on their computer (be it in Outlook, Evolution, on Google, whatever) can import that and use whatever notification method they're used to? | 21:34 |
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| soren | Apologies for my poor punctuation. | 21:34 |
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| soren | ttx: ^ | 21:52 |
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| soren | vishy: My e-mail reveals that you set the commit message on https://code.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/lp681600/+merge/42186 | 21:56 |
| soren | vishy: Any particular reason? | 21:56 |
| vishy | soren: I approved for merge, but it needed a commit message to merge properly | 21:56 |
| soren | vishy: Did something fail, or did you just believe that to be true? :) | 21:56 |
| vishy | um I believed that to be true from past attempts | 21:57 |
| soren | vishy: Tarmac uses the description if there is no commit message set. It only fails if neither is set. | 21:57 |
| vishy | soren: nice, it didn't used to do that | 21:57 |
| soren | vishy: This has been so for... quite a while. | 21:57 |
| soren | Not sure when. Months for sure. | 21:57 |
| vishy | ok | 21:58 |
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| soren | vishy: There. I just saved you 12 seconds per day. You can pay me back in beer. | 21:58 |
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| dubsquared | vishy: any recent changes that cause dnsmasq to not come back up on a nova-network restart? | 22:41 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #683413 in swift "Improve error handling in swift-auth-add-user" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683413 | 22:41 |
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| vishy | dubsquared: it should come back | 22:43 |
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| dubsquared | vishy: hrm, when i kill it, and restart nova-network/libvirt-bin only one spawns | 22:44 |
| vishy | aer | 22:44 |
| vishy | if libvirt-bin is restarted | 22:44 |
| vishy | it will start dnsmasq | 22:44 |
| vishy | you have to kill libvirts dnsmasq | 22:44 |
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| dubsquared | yeah, that is what im killing | 22:45 |
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| dubsquared | dnsmasq --strict-order --bind-interfaces --pid-file=/var/run/libvirt/network/default.pid --conf-file= --listen-address 192.168.122.1 --except-interface lo --dhcp-range 192.168.122.2,192.168.122.254 --dhcp-lease-max=253 | 22:45 |
| dubsquared | WARNING:root:Starting network node | 22:46 |
| dubsquared | ...done. | 22:46 |
| dubsquared | root@openstack110:/etc/init.d# ps aux | grep dns | 22:46 |
| dubsquared | root 7722 0.0 0.0 7620 912 pts/0 S+ 16:46 0:00 grep --color=auto dns | 22:46 |
| vishy | hmm | 22:46 |
| dubsquared | 2010-11-30 16:46:31-0600 [-] Log opened. | 22:47 |
| dubsquared | 2010-11-30 16:46:31-0600 [-] twistd 10.0.0 (/usr/bin/python 2.6.5) starting up. | 22:47 |
| dubsquared | 2010-11-30 16:46:31-0600 [-] reactor class: twisted.internet.selectreactor.SelectReactor. | 22:47 |
| dubsquared | 2010-11-30 16:46:31-0600 [-] set uid/gid 108/65534 | 22:47 |
| dubsquared | 2010-11-30 16:46:31-0600 [-] (root): INFO backend <module 'nova.db.sqlalchemy.api' from '/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.pyc'> | 22:47 |
| vishy | are you in flatdhcp | 22:47 |
| vishy | ? | 22:47 |
| vishy | I'm just looking and it looks like it doesn't actually recreate it on reboot | 22:47 |
| vishy | hmm | 22:47 |
| dubsquared | --network_manager=nova.network.manager.FlatManager | 22:47 |
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| vishy | uh FlatManager doesn't do dhcp | 22:48 |
| vishy | .. | 22:48 |
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| dubsquared | ha….i should be referring to my documentation that defines the network managers | 22:49 |
| dubsquared | does that exist anywhere :( | 22:49 |
| vishy | there are pretty descriptive docstrings now | 22:50 |
| vishy | :) | 22:50 |
| dubsquared | sweeet | 22:50 |
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| vishy | http://nova.openstack.org/devref/network.html#module-nova.network.manager | 22:51 |
| vishy | although I just noticed a typo | 22:51 |
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| vishy | dubsquared: It may not actually reload dnsmasq on reboot, I have some code for that that I will be proposing soon | 22:53 |
| dubsquared | vishy: cool, would be nice :D | 22:54 |
| dubsquared | looking to see what manager i should switch to | 22:54 |
| vishy | FlatDHCPManager probably | 22:55 |
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| notmyname | anotherjesse: I think I can help with your email + iPad issue | 23:11 |
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