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| pksingh | hongbin: hey there? | 04:37 |
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| pksingh | eliqiao: Hi, there? | 04:38 |
| hongbin | pksingh: hey | 04:50 |
| pksingh | hongbin: can you please assign the bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/centralize-config-zun to me, so that i can close it | 04:50 |
| hongbin | sure, one second | 04:51 |
| hongbin | pksingh: done | 04:51 |
| pksingh | hongbin: one more thing https://bugs.launchpad.net/zun/+bug/1643221, its already there https://github.com/openstack/zun/blob/master/zun/conf/path.py#L30 | 04:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1643221 in Zun "Support state_path in Zun" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Pradeep Kumar Singh (pradeep-singh-u) | 04:52 |
| hongbin | pksingh: i see | 04:52 |
| pksingh | hongbin: i will use it for initializing image directory | 04:52 |
| hongbin | pksingh: thanks for letting me know. i closed the bug | 04:53 |
| hongbin | pksingh: sure | 04:53 |
| pksingh | thanks, hongbin | 04:53 |
| hongbin | it is late everning here, i am going to leave | 04:53 |
| pksingh | sure | 04:53 |
| hongbin | see you later | 04:53 |
| pksingh | bye gd night | 04:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kumar Singh proposed openstack/zun: Initialize glance image directory with default value https://review.openstack.org/400045 | 05:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/zun: Add support for 'zun run' command at server side https://review.openstack.org/396627 | 08:10 |
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| mfedosin | sudipto_: hey! | 08:26 |
| sudipto_ | mfedosin, hello! | 08:27 |
| mfedosin | may we discuss zun features? :) | 08:27 |
| sudipto_ | Sure - go ahead :) | 08:27 |
| mfedosin | cool | 08:27 |
| mfedosin | so, let me briefly describe our use case | 08:27 |
| sudipto_ | Sure | 08:27 |
| mfedosin | currently we have nfv in vms | 08:28 |
| mfedosin | and they are managed by Nova | 08:28 |
| mfedosin | but we're not satisfied by the performance | 08:28 |
| sudipto_ | Albite. | 08:28 |
| sudipto_ | (pardon my auto corrections) | 08:28 |
| mfedosin | and we are considering to put it all in containers | 08:29 |
| mfedosin | in other words we need container “drop-in” replacement for VMs in NFV | 08:29 |
| sudipto_ | gotcha! | 08:29 |
| mfedosin | from short investigation we found 3 projects in openstack | 08:30 |
| mfedosin | nova-docker, which seems dead | 08:30 |
| mfedosin | and then Magnum and Zun | 08:30 |
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| sudipto_ | Yeah - so when you say "drop-in" replacement, what are you exactly looking at? | 08:31 |
| mfedosin | from short investigation I got that Magnum is manager of COEs (kubernetes or swarm) and Zun is kind of lite COE itself | 08:31 |
| mfedosin | we want to get rid of vms, put all workloads in containers and has the ability to manage them as before | 08:33 |
| sudipto_ | do you want to convert the VMs into containers - with a certain downtime? | 08:33 |
| sudipto_ | you are fine with the re-provisioning your applications inside containers? | 08:33 |
| mfedosin | I think we're fine with reprovisioning | 08:34 |
| sudipto_ | Ok - basically at this stage, zun hasn't had a first release but we are aiming for one shortly. Our main motivation is to ensure that you have a single pane of management software to manage both your VMs and containers - where all the same management rules would apply. | 08:35 |
| sudipto_ | ZUN at the moment works with only docker APIs and has plans to support various COE APIs in the future (subjective to design discussions). | 08:36 |
| mfedosin | that's good, exactly what we need | 08:36 |
| pksingh | mfedosin: happy to know, you found Zun interesting :) | 08:37 |
| sudipto_ | Basically - ZUN would get you containers in openstack...by being a self sustaining project, which takes inspiration from nova-docker but is a not more expansive than that. | 08:37 |
| sudipto_ | s/not/lot | 08:37 |
| mfedosin | from my perspective: now there is a vm(s) with workloads, we need to create a set of containers, combine them in a pod (in terms of kubernetes) and then provide a service to end users in the same manner as it was with vms | 08:38 |
| mfedosin | does zun provides features like load balancing or auto-healing? | 08:39 |
| sudipto_ | Ok - we don't quite support the PODs as yet, but we have a concept of a container sandbox that the broader set of the team (lead by honbin) is working on. The sandbox would be built with the idea of providing the "service" concept of kubernetes. | 08:39 |
| sudipto_ | ZUN at the moment, isn't a full fledged COE - hence load balancing and auto-healing are not supported yet. | 08:40 |
| sudipto_ | We have currently built the support for the primary docker APIs and are working out the integration pieces with various other openstack projects that include glance/neutron etc. | 08:40 |
| mfedosin | okay, I think we can live without some features for the first time | 08:40 |
| mfedosin | especially since it's an r&d project :) | 08:41 |
| sudipto_ | you are a BIG welcome to contribute :) | 08:41 |
| sudipto_ | mkrai, ^ I hope i have captured the points correctly :) | 08:41 |
| mfedosin | thanks! I think I will | 08:41 |
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| mfedosin | also what about multitenancy? do you have isolation for containers? | 08:42 |
| sudipto_ | I would have hongbin comment on the multi-tenancy feature - if you want the exact details on where we are with it at the moment | 08:42 |
| sudipto_ | hongbin works out of Canada, and is online during your evening time probably :) | 08:43 |
| sudipto_ | but i do remember, having a discussion around that. | 08:43 |
| mfedosin | okay, I'll ask him today | 08:45 |
| mfedosin | btw, are you familiar with magnum? does it support coe deployment not in vms? | 08:45 |
| sudipto_ | AFAIK, magnum supports COE deployment via NOVA on the VMs. | 08:45 |
| sudipto_ | There are quite a few developers of magnum on this channel, hopefully they will correct me, if i am wrong :) | 08:46 |
| mfedosin | seems so, but there were discussions about bare-metal | 08:46 |
| sudipto_ | Qiming, ^ | 08:46 |
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| mfedosin | okay, it seems it's enough for me for beginning :) I deployed devstack with zun and going to play with it | 08:49 |
| mfedosin | thanks sudipto_! if I have questions I'll ask you later :) | 08:49 |
| sudipto_ | awesome. | 08:49 |
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| mkrai | mfedosin: Hi | 09:00 |
| mkrai | You might be interested in having a look at this | 09:01 |
| mkrai | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/support-secure-container | 09:01 |
| mkrai | We are aiming to support clear container or hyper container to zun | 09:02 |
| pksingh | mkrai: gate jobs are not running for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400045/, any idea? | 09:02 |
| mkrai | mfedosin: Also Magnum supports running k8s in baremetal | 09:02 |
| mkrai | pksingh: Let me check | 09:02 |
| mfedosin | mkrai: thanks for the link, looks interesting | 09:03 |
| mkrai | pksingh: #link http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 09:05 |
| mkrai | seems a long queue. I am not sure may be Jenkins is not running | 09:06 |
| pksingh | mkrai: got it, yes its in queue | 09:07 |
| pksingh | thanks | 09:07 |
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| mfedosin | mkrai: just on question about Magnum - afaiu it only deploys kubernetes cluster on vms or bare-metal and orchestrates it. So there is no api for managing kubernetes pods, services, etc. | 09:52 |
| mfedosin | and we should rely on kubernetes itself for these tasks | 09:52 |
| mfedosin | am I right? | 09:52 |
| mkrai | Yes mfedosin right | 09:53 |
| mkrai | There is no APIs to manage pods etc in Magnum | 09:54 |
| mkrai | mfedosin: I think Zun will meet your requirements but it will take time | 09:54 |
| mfedosin | mkrai: thanks :) | 10:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kumar Singh proposed openstack/zun: Add timeout parameter in 'reboot' and 'stop' https://review.openstack.org/400157 | 10:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kumar Singh proposed openstack/zun: Add timeout parameter in 'reboot' and 'stop' https://review.openstack.org/400157 | 10:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | feng.shengqin proposed openstack/zun: Delete python bytecode file https://review.openstack.org/400199 | 11:25 |
| openstackgerrit | feng.shengqin proposed openstack/python-zunclient: Delete python bytecode file https://review.openstack.org/400204 | 11:33 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: We are currently having capacity issues with our ubuntu-xenial nodes. We have addressed the issue but will be another few hours before new images have been uploaded to all cloud providers. | 12:20 | |
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| mkrai_ | lakerzhou: Hi | 16:31 |
| mkrai_ | You can also take this bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/basic-container-scheduler if interested | 16:32 |
| lakerzhou | Hi there | 16:32 |
| lakerzhou | thanks. At this point, please keep that one for now. I need to coordinate with our team inside to see how soon other people can join in Zun. | 16:34 |
| mkrai_ | Yes sure. If you want I can assign it you for now and later you can decide | 16:34 |
| lakerzhou | mkrai_ I will update you as soon as I have feedback | 16:35 |
| mkrai_ | Sure. Thanks! | 16:36 |
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