Tuesday, 2016-06-28

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hongbinHi all, our team meeting will start in about 15 minutes in #openstack-meeting02:46
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hongbinyanyanhu: flwang1 Qiming sudipto ping03:02
hongbinteam meeting :)03:02
yanyanhuhi, I'm there :)03:03
yanyanhuhi, hongbin, I think Qiming can not join for family reason this week03:03
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mkraihi sudipto04:00
mkraiDo you have few minutes?04:00
sudiptomkrai, hello, good  morning :)04:00
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sudiptomkrai, yeah sure!04:00
mkraiGood morning04:00
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mkraijust wanted to discuss about design option #1.104:01
sudiptomkrai, sure..04:01
mkraiSo it says we support both container CRUD operations04:02
mkraiAnd also support different COEs like create a pod in k8s, create container in swarm04:02
mkraiRight?04:02
sudiptoyeah it sounds similar to that.04:02
sudiptoi think for the API design it's going to be crazy to abstract an entity that could represent k8s/swarm/zun/xyz everything in one form.04:02
mkraiYes I also have that concern04:03
mkraiIt seems we will have to have different API sets04:03
sudiptodifferent API sets is probably not a good idea - since it would make it harder for anyone who builds on top of zun to consume it.04:03
mkraiEven it is difficult to abstract the current COEs04:03
mkraiYes completely agree04:04
sudiptoyeah the current abstraction is the key - something that can satisfy the basic... in principle to zun - everything should be a collection of containers...04:04
sudiptohowever, it's very very hard to do that.04:05
mkraiSo that why I thought user would say create me a container of type zun, k8s, swarm04:05
sudiptoyeah and then probably have meta-data information for each of them04:05
mkraiYes04:06
sudiptothat distinguishes one another.04:06
mkraiYes having only one set of APIs04:06
mkraiOk so let's discuss this with hongbin sometime this week04:07
mkraiI think we need to redesign our APIs04:07
sudiptoi wonder if we would really want to support the 'services' of the k8s world...or some such other fancy things - i think we shouldn't maybe look to do that.04:07
sudiptomkrai, yeah - i guess you could write an etherpad and we could start our discussions there. Then have a common time - and discuss.04:07
mkraiYes sure I will do that04:08
mkraiThere are lot more things in all COEs that we may want or not want to support04:08
mkraiEventually we will be competing with these COEs04:09
sudiptohaha, yeah i think people agreed on competing being good :)04:09
sudiptoor atleast, something that we can bet our money on.04:09
mkraiYes but it seems really tough at this point of time04:10
sudiptobut i think designing the uniform API is hard ...04:10
mkraiYes I agree completely04:10
sudiptodims, had shared this link  https://github.com/docker/docker/blob/master/experimental/docker-stacks-and-bundles.md sometime back - something that we could do from zun as well.04:11
mkraiOh it looks like bay in Magnum04:11
mkraiSorry not04:12
mkraiIt is group of containers04:13
sudiptoyeah04:14
mkraisudipto, brb. Going for breakfast04:14
mkraiHave a good day!04:15
sudiptomkrai, sure. you too!04:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/higgins: Add compute to devstack  https://review.openstack.org/32885406:43
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openstackgerritMadhuri Kumari proposed openstack/higgins: Fix error in quickstart  https://review.openstack.org/33484708:37
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openstackgerritWenzhi Yu proposed openstack/higgins: Use 'is_int_like' and 'is_uuid_like' from oslo_utils  https://review.openstack.org/33491010:43
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openstackgerritWenzhi Yu proposed openstack/higgins: Deal with TODO comment in zun.common.config.py  https://review.openstack.org/33494611:30
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openstackgerritHongbin Lu proposed openstack/higgins: Add Higgins Service Controller  https://review.openstack.org/32561121:17
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/higgins: Use 'is_int_like' and 'is_uuid_like' from oslo_utils  https://review.openstack.org/33491023:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/higgins: Deal with TODO comment in zun.common.config.py  https://review.openstack.org/33494623:28

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