Wednesday, 2014-11-19

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openstackgerritPeng Fei Wang proposed openstack/zaqar: Make the refrence to storage.errors to be consistent  https://review.openstack.org/11655102:11
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CodingisAwesomeHey there02:38
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CodingisAwesomecan I ask some questions about your load tests?02:48
CodingisAwesomeI see this "We're already using tsung for load tests, it'd be nice to have those configs in Marconi's code base so that others can use them and replicate tests in other environments"02:48
CodingisAwesomeand I've been using tsung for awhile and wanted to collaborate02:49
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flwangwpf: ping03:49
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wpfflwang:  pong06:50
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exploreshaifalihi flaper8709:40
exploreshaifaligood morning!09:40
flaper87exploreshaifali: hey hey09:41
flaper87good morning09:41
flaper87how are you doing today?09:41
exploreshaifalisuper good :)09:41
exploreshaifaliflaper87, here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/exploreshaifali-opw-split-layers09:42
flaper87exploreshaifali: glad to hear that09:42
flaper87:)09:42
exploreshaifaliwe have decided 3rd step to move controlDriver into management.py09:42
flaper87yes09:42
exploreshaifalibut ControlDriver is implementing drivers I think it should stay in drivers modules09:43
flaper87ok, that makes sense09:43
exploreshaifalias like another DataDriver is also there09:43
exploreshaifaliyes09:43
flaper87that will keep everything consistent09:43
flaper87+2 to that09:44
exploreshaifali:)09:44
exploreshaifaliflaper87, also need review for next patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134910/09:44
flaper87yup, I saw you updated it, I'll review in a bit... gotta finish something first :(09:45
exploreshaifaliflaper87, ya sure, no worries :)09:46
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kragniz\o\10:18
kragniz/o/10:18
kragniz|o|10:18
kragniz\o/10:18
* kragniz does the zaqar dance10:18
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flaper87LOOOL10:19
flaper87We should come up with an actual zaqar dance10:20
kragnizwould it involve a conga line?10:20
kragnizlike a queue?10:20
flaper87kragniz: absolutely10:21
flaper87it's to have a "tropical" sound10:22
zhiyanflaper87: kragniz do you know if mongo shell support some environment variables?10:25
flaper87zhiyan: yes, you can also load them from a javascript file10:26
kragnizzhiyan: I know it supports the EDITOR variable10:26
flaper87there's also a mongorc file10:26
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zhiyanhmm not sure where i can see a list, a doc, google-ed but  didn't get worth things10:28
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zhiyanfrom strace i can't see any call on getenv() .. anyway, thanks.10:35
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vkmchey all!11:32
kragniz\o\11:32
vkmc /o/11:33
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vkmc:D11:35
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cpallaresgood morning o/11:42
vkmcmorning cpallares \o11:42
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vkmcI'm reading AWS SNS specs... they support SMS and SMTP12:07
vkmcI cannot imagine a good usage for those12:08
vkmcall I can think of is... spam! spam!12:09
vkmcflaper87, hey there :) do you think its ok to add a spec for osprofiler addition to Zaqar?12:13
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flaper87hey heeey12:18
flaper87vkmc: FWIW, sms and smtp are some of the things we want to add12:18
flaper87it's in the spec too (mobile APN, sms and email)12:18
flaper87:D12:18
flaper87vkmc: mmh, I think we should have a spec for osprofiler12:18
flaper87well thought12:18
flaper87I'm interested in knowing the details of how it works12:18
vkmcflaper87, yeah, its pretty cool12:18
flaper87I'm not very happy with the profiler being hard coded in the service, TBH12:19
vkmcI'm just too troll to think in good applications for that12:19
flaper87so I'd like to know how it works before we merge it12:19
vkmcsounds good12:19
vkmcthe cross project spec is here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134839/112:19
flaper87also, I'd appreciate everyone's comments on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/zaqar/+bug/134217712:19
flaper87I'll read that one12:20
vkmcoh tests refactoring12:20
vkmcI was thinking about that12:20
flaper87awesome :D12:21
flaper87ok, I gtg for a bit12:21
flaper87I'll be back on-line in ~1h12:21
vkmck12:21
flaper87OpenStack meetup tonight, gotta move to DA city12:22
vkmcI'll be a bit away today too >.>12:22
* flaper87 doesn't like leaving his precious lake12:22
vkmchaha12:22
flaper87ttfn12:22
vkmcas soon as you realize you are back home again :)12:23
vkmcttfn12:23
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flaper87back13:54
vkmc@office? :)13:55
flaper87coworking space13:57
flaper87:D13:57
flaper87so, ish13:57
flaper87:D13:57
vkmcofficeish13:57
vkmchaha13:57
vkmcyou add ish to everything and now I cannot stop doing that as well13:58
vkmcdamn you flaperish13:58
kragnizvkmcish13:58
vkmclouish13:58
vkmcyours is the best13:58
kragnizthat's like someone's mispronouncing the mispronunciation of my name!13:59
vkmcloool14:01
flaper87:P14:02
cpallareskragniz: loui-ish14:02
flaper87zaqarish14:02
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* flaper87 wants to get these specs merged to start doing some code14:04
vkmcthat would be really cool14:05
vkmcI'm writting a spec for the osprofiler thingy14:05
vkmcsorry :x14:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/zaqar-specs: Add requirement for APIImpact flag  https://review.openstack.org/13234814:07
flaper87https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134015/2/specs/kilo/migrate-to-topics.rst,cm <- gordon's point about about message's get is... true14:13
flaper87I had not thought about that14:13
flaper87I guess we either keep it in the URL or we just use http headers14:13
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vkmcyou mean... to keep metadata?14:16
vkmcI didn't follow14:16
flaper87GET /v1/my-queue/messages14:16
vkmcaha14:16
flaper87if we remove queue, how are we going to tell zaqar what topic we want messages from ?14:17
flaper87:D14:17
flaper87I guess we'll have to use headers14:17
vkmcthose were my concerns when I asked you for the metadata14:17
flaper87but that means we need to use headers for posts too14:17
flaper87to keep both requests consistent14:17
vkmchow big is going to be the request to do so?14:18
vkmcthat might affect perf a lot14:18
flaper87well, we're just adding 1 header14:18
flaper87I hate using *just* there14:18
vkmcwhat about the metadata?14:18
flaper87The metadata is still a separate operation14:19
flaper87with its own endpoint14:19
vkmcok14:19
vkmcso we are adding an extra header in exchange of removing an endpoint14:19
flaper87we're not removing an endpoint14:20
flaper87we're removing a part of the url14:20
flaper87/v1/my-queue/messages14:20
vkmcbut we will be removing all the logic for queues14:20
flaper87will become14:20
flaper87/v1/messages14:20
flaper87yes14:20
vkmcis not just the url14:21
flaper87ah well, I get what you mean14:21
flaper87sorry, I'm just slow today14:21
vkmcyou are never slow :)14:21
vkmcI have my own dialect in English14:21
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flaper87vkmc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135189/14:30
flaper87:D14:30
cpallaresmehehe I talked to Livnat today and she told me there's the word Zaqar is a hebrew word and the q is pronounced like a spanish j14:30
cpallaresSo it's pronounced like Zahar14:31
flaper87oh, mmh, interesting14:31
flaper87now I know how to pronounce it14:31
kragnizlol14:31
kragnizwhere does the name come from?14:32
vkmcI pronounce it in Spanish14:32
cpallaresvkmc: me too14:32
cpallaresvkmc: ZAHKAR!14:32
vkmcI heard some people saying zacuar (spanish folks can imagine how that sounds)14:32
cpallaresvkmc: French, no?14:32
flaper87kragniz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaqar14:32
vkmccpallares, yep14:32
vkmckragniz, its super epic14:32
kragnizwoah!14:33
kragnizit needs a cool logo14:33
vkmcdunno why we didn't think about cupid for our name14:33
vkmchahaha14:33
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flaper87vkmc: seriously? I know kgriffs|afk proposed Barney but ....14:34
cpallaresvkmc: I thought someone had suggested it?14:34
cpallaresLOL14:34
cpallaresflaper87: Makes sense considering how much kgriffs|afk likes Barney.14:35
* kragniz wants everything to have a cool logo14:35
flaper87kragniz: do you have a cool logo?14:35
kragnizflaper87: totally, man14:35
flaper87"If you want to change the world, you should start by changing yourself" - Barney14:36
kragnizflaper87: s/changing yourself/having a cool logo/14:36
flaper87s/changing/hugging/14:37
cpallareskragniz: Considering Freddy Krueger sends messages through nightmares I think he'd make a good logo.14:37
kragnizcpallares: D:14:37
flaper87cpallares: AFAIK, people were we'll awake when that dude killed them14:38
flaper87wll*14:38
flaper87well*14:38
flaper87fuck14:38
cpallareshaha14:38
openstackgerritVictoria Martínez de la Cruz proposed openstack/zaqar-specs: Add OSProfiler to Zaqar  https://review.openstack.org/13561214:47
vkmczhiyan, ^ lemme know if I'm missing something14:48
vkmcfeel free to change it also14:49
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openstackgerritVictoria Martínez de la Cruz proposed openstack/zaqar-specs: Add OSProfiler to Zaqar  https://review.openstack.org/13561214:50
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flaper87can I get some eyes here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126531/15:18
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vkmco.o15:38
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vkmcflaper87, in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126531/1/specs/kilo/storage-capabilities.rst15:54
vkmcit doesn't matter if capabilities is a class method15:54
flaper87it actually does, they could change depending on the config15:55
vkmcbut being a class method doesnt bound it to the config15:55
flaper87if capabilities is a classmethod, it's guaranteeing that they will act at a class-level attribute, which may also change15:55
vkmcyou still can change it15:55
vkmcI mean, you will still have capabilities15:56
flaper87but it'd change it for *all* the instances of that driver15:56
flaper87because it's a class-level attribute15:56
flaper87we could have a mix of both15:56
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flaper87something like a capabilities list that doesn't change and then one for the instance15:56
vkmcoh I see your point15:56
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flaper87but that's confusing15:56
flaper87:/15:56
vkmcyeah15:56
vkmcwe don't want that15:56
vkmcyeah so15:57
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vkmccapabilities, though, depend on the storage driver16:00
vkmcah but you could have FIFO disabled in one and enabled in other16:00
vkmcnevermind16:00
flaper87:)16:04
vkmcwhy we don't simply manage it as a property?16:04
vkmcI'll keep reviewing it later16:06
flaper87yup, that's what I'm doing now. It's just a property16:06
flaper87I'm writing code and updating the spec based on that16:06
flaper87I've really bad coding abstinence right now16:06
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vkmckewl16:08
vkmchang on there dud, next week is all coding16:09
* flaper87 really hopes so16:09
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* cpallares sends a poptart to Flavio16:15
* flaper87 eats that poptart16:17
kragnizpoptarts are very strange things16:17
flaper87who wants more? I DO!16:17
flaper87kragniz: ssssh, just eat16:17
kragnizflaper87: same16:18
kragnizflaper87: thinking about them too hard isn't good16:18
cpallareskragniz: We do not scold obsessive behavior over poptarts on this channel16:18
cpallareskragniz: It's against the code of conduct16:18
kragnizcpallares: good to know16:19
vkmcnext visit to the US will be exclusively to get a poptart16:19
cpallaresvkmc: Wait16:19
cpallaresvkmc: WAIT16:19
kragnizcanada has them, right?16:19
* vkmc waits16:19
cpallaresvkmc: You haven't had one?!16:19
vkmcEVER16:19
kragnizvkmc: D:16:20
* cpallares feels guilty about not fitting that box in her luggage16:20
kragnizvkmc: even I've had one!16:20
vkmcmy life is empty16:20
vkmckragniz, lol16:20
cpallaresvkmc: WHY DIDN'T WE EAT ONE AT GHC??16:20
* cpallares is having a mental breakdown16:20
vkmcdunno, we were too excited about other stuff and we forget about important things16:20
* kragniz comforts cpallares with a poptart16:20
* cpallares calms down16:20
vkmcomg, seriously?16:20
vkmchahaha16:20
* cpallares eats the poptart16:20
zhiyanvkmc: nice! Will look it asap, thanks16:21
vkmczhiyan, :) cool, thx16:21
* kragniz offers zhiyan a poptart16:21
cpallareslol16:21
cpallareskragniz: You're a natural Zarconian16:22
cpallaresvkmc: I will take some to Vancouver, if I go to Vancouver.16:22
exploreshaifalihi guyz poptrat - poptrat every where ;)16:22
vkmccpallares, I'll try to go to Vancouver.... just for the poptarts16:23
zhiyankragniz: thanks, eat16:23
kragnizcpallares: I should make a commit to zaqar, then I'd feel justified being in here16:23
cpallareshaha16:23
cpallaresGather around children. Let me talk about the history of Zaqar.16:23
vkmckragniz, and that how you start contributing to Zaqar... muahahaha16:23
vkmceverything for the poptarts16:23
cpallaresI remember when virtual poptarts were like digital currency, back in the humble beginnings. When zaqar was marconi.16:23
cpallaresand kgriffs|afk complained about the virtual kilos he put on eating those virtual poptarts16:24
kragnizpoor guy16:25
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed openstack/zaqar: Add capabilities property to the DataDriver  https://review.openstack.org/13563716:25
flaper87Is Zaqar becoming the: "We'll make the things that have never happened to you happen"16:27
flaper87?16:27
flaper87I'm down for it16:27
* flaper87 ships some poptarts to vkmc16:27
flaper87Zaqar: We'll create new experiences for you16:27
flaper87cpallares: it's kgriffs|afk fault16:27
vkmcZaqar: connecting to new experiences16:28
vkmcnah, sounds like the connecting people thing of Nokia16:28
kragniznow it just needs a cool logo16:28
kragnizand we're set16:28
cpallareskragniz: +116:28
cpallaresIdk why we don't have one yet.16:29
cpallaresmust be kgriffs|afk's fault16:29
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vkmcHamilton should be our logo16:36
flaper87Hamilton FTW16:43
flaper87flwang: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131992/ when you're around :)16:44
cpallaresvkmc: lol I was just talking to Will this morning, he sent me pictures16:47
cpallaresvkmc: *the same pictures16:48
cpallaresvkmc: The arrested pictures16:48
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vkmclol17:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/zaqar: Why do we increment the counter after the insert?  https://review.openstack.org/13199221:10
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/zaqar: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/13480321:13
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