Thursday, 2017-07-13

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openstackgerritHidekazu Nakamura proposed openstack/watcher master: Add volume migrate action  https://review.openstack.org/47720400:43
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openstackgerritsuzhengwei proposed openstack/watcher master: extend-node-status  https://review.openstack.org/46455702:16
openstackgerritsuzhengwei proposed openstack/watcher-specs master: add name for audit  https://review.openstack.org/47486502:29
openstackgerritsuzhengwei proposed openstack/watcher-specs master: add name for audit  https://review.openstack.org/47486502:37
aspiershi all, is anyone submitting talks on Watcher for Sydney?03:47
aspiersI have recently made quite a bit of progress in figuring out how to build a strategy for consolidating VMs onto a minimum number of compute nodes03:59
aspiersI'm pretty sure I know how to do it effectively with linear programming04:00
aspiersThis could then combine with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/vm-migration-ordering and http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/watcher-specs/specs/pike/approved/add-power-on-and-off-in-watcher.html to produce a fully automated solution04:00
aspiersI was wondering if it would be worth submitting a talk to explain this. I would also love to come to the PTG and work on it with you guys!04:01
aspiersPlease let me know ASAP if you think this avenue is worth exploring. BTW the Sydney talk submission deadline is this Friday.04:02
hidekazuaspiers: hi, i am drafter of zone migration bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/zone-migration-strategy04:15
aspiershidekazu: hi!04:15
aspiershidekazu: so that bp is mainly for maintenance?04:16
aspiersI was thinking server consolidation would be mainly for saving energy costs, but maybe it could help with zone migration too04:16
hidekazuaspiers: for hardware maintenance, migrating vm and volume in parallel.04:16
hidekazuaspiers: Yumeng and licanwei are for saving energy.04:17
hidekazuaspiers: zone migration needs vm and volume ordering and implemented by their own, not by watcher community.04:18
hidekazuaspiers: but i will reimplement for merging.04:18
hidekazuaspiers: i will watch your work :)04:19
aspiershidekazu: OK, thanks for the info! So the plan is for an external component to decide which migrations to make and how to order them?04:22
hidekazuaspiers: if i want to use the feature, i need to use external component, right?04:26
aspiershidekazu: that is my question :) I was thinking that in the future Watcher could implement the full solution itself04:26
hidekazuaspiers: i expected you will join watcher community and implement inside of watcher :)04:30
aspiershidekazu: that's what I would like, for sure :)04:30
hidekazuaspiers: but step by step maybe better.04:30
aspiershidekazu: step by step?04:32
hidekazuaspiers: at first watcher uses external component. second step, watcher includes it.04:33
hidekazuaspiers: please check https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-Sydney-meetings04:35
aspiersahh04:35
aspiersthanks!04:35
hidekazuaspiers: welcome :)04:35
aspiershidekazu: shall I put my suggestion in that etherpad?04:37
aspiersI feel a bit awkward proposing a Watcher talk before I have joined the project :-( but I have done quite a bit of work in this area04:38
openstackgerritHidekazu Nakamura proposed openstack/watcher-dashboard master: Fix errors due to Django 1.9  https://review.openstack.org/48318504:40
hidekazuaspiers: you joined last ptg, if my brain is right.04:40
aspiershidekazu: well sort of yes, I attended one meeting ;-)04:41
aspiersbut I have not had time to work on code yet :-/04:41
aspiersI am hoping to come to the PTG to do that04:41
aspiersbut I am not sure if my company will pay for my travel04:41
hidekazuaspiers: nowadays all developers are the same situation :(04:44
aspiersyeah :/04:45
aspiersgenerally SUSE is very good with travel, but we have a lot of developers and now 4 OpenStack events every year ...04:45
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aspiershidekazu: I added the proposal to the etherpad - please can you let me know what you think? thanks!!04:58
hidekazuaspiers: title resembles session in boston: https://www.openstack.org/videos/boston-2017/help-telecom-operators-save-energy-and-reduce-cost-of-data-center-with-openstack-watcher05:03
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openstackgerritHidekazu Nakamura proposed openstack/watcher master: Add title to administrator guide  https://review.openstack.org/48323007:04
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openstackgerritmelissaml proposed openstack/watcher master: Update URLs in documents according to document migration  https://review.openstack.org/48323507:14
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hidekazualexchadin: hi07:35
alexchadinhi hidekazu07:35
hidekazualexchadin: i want to propose forum "What do you want to optimize?" with you07:37
hidekazualexchadin: we should hear operator's voice.07:38
hidekazualexchadin: could you check no6 in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-Sydney-meetings?07:38
alexchadinhidekazu: I'm not sure I'll be in Sydney07:39
alexchadinhidekazu: imho we should look at containers and check out if there are some issues we can take07:41
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hidekazualexchadin: but you are proposing project update :)07:41
hidekazualexchadin: i take a look kubernetes. it has self healing feature. cloud foundry also has.07:42
hidekazualexchadin: you will be able to discuss in the forum about containers :)07:43
alexchadinhidekazu: Yumeng will take it if I'm not there07:44
alexchadinhidekazu: I really appreciate your propose but be ready to hold it yourself07:45
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hidekazualexchadin: i want to recruit Yumeng also.07:45
alexchadinhidekazu: good idea ;)07:45
hidekazuYumeng: if not full of sessions.07:45
hidekazualexchadin: i understand. so..could you join if another developer joined?07:48
Yumenghidekazu: I am thinking of quitting one session, so that we can have speakers from different companies, which may be good for the topics to get accepted.07:48
hidekazuYumeng: hi07:48
YumengI'm thinking of quitting this one 3. Network bandwidth schedule in watcher Authors: zhang Yanxian(ZTE),Yumeng Bao (ZTE), Li Canwei (ZTE)07:48
Yumengif anyone is intrested, join us07:49
Yumenghidekazu: hi07:49
hidekazuYumeng: "we" means session you proposed? or i proposed?07:50
Yumenghidekazu: haha.. I'm sorry. I mean join this session---------3. Network bandwidth schedule in watcher Authors: zhang Yanxian(ZTE),Yumeng Bao (ZTE), Li Canwei (ZTE)07:50
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Yumenghidekazu: I will quite, then another developer can join as a co-speaker07:52
hidekazuYumeng: you are recruiting07:53
hidekazuYumeng: i am recruiting you and alexchadin now.07:54
Yumenghidekazu: for the forum "What do you want to optimize?"07:54
hidekazuYumeng: yes!07:55
Yumenghidekazu: Thanks! I will be glad to join you!07:55
hidekazuYumeng: thanks!07:56
hidekazuYumeng: please check and correct my english:) no.6 in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-Sydney-meetings07:58
Yumenghidekazu: do you want to jion "Network bandwidth schedule in watcher"? or any colleague from your company?07:58
hidekazuYumeng: aaa, i am not interested in the session.. adisky__ may be interested in07:59
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hidekazuYumeng__: adisky__ is not here though.07:59
Yumeng hidekazu: ok. please let him know. If not decided yet, that's fine. just put name on the etherpad, I can ask my colleague to update before Saturday.07:59
Yumenghidekazu: Are you and adisky__ from the same company?08:00
hidekazuYumeng: same company group. but i have never met him ;)08:01
hidekazuYumeng: actually i do not know him or her.08:01
Yumenghidekazu: Haha... big company08:01
Yumenghidekazu: I will check no.6 in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-Sydney-meetings  today before I get off work.08:03
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hidekazuYumeng: thanks, i will be waiting after working hour :)08:04
openstackgerritMikhail Kizilov proposed openstack/watcher master: Added Actuator Strategy  https://review.openstack.org/42511008:05
hidekazualexchadin: could you join? i think ptl joining is important for forum.08:07
openstackgerritsuzhengwei proposed openstack/watcher master: workload balance base on cpu or ram util  https://review.openstack.org/47925708:16
openstackgerritsuzhengwei proposed openstack/watcher master: workload balance base on cpu or ram util  https://review.openstack.org/47925708:19
hidekazualexchadin: it seems i got your thought already, thanks.08:28
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Yumenghidekazu: maybe you can invite someone from your customer.08:39
hidekazuYumeng: forum?08:45
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Yumenghidekazu: yep. you want to know the operator's requirements for optimizing. So why not invite them directly if possible.09:03
hidekazuYumeng: unfortunately, adisky__ will be on leave for next 2 days. will be back next week..09:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/watcher master: Abort operation for live migration  https://review.openstack.org/47456809:05
hidekazualexchadin : could you review  Add Volume migrate action spec?09:06
alexchadinhidekazu: excuse me, I was leaving my work. Yeap, will do now09:07
hidekazualexchadin: thanks!09:08
hidekazuYumeng: i will have meeting tomorrow with them and discuss. but if not possible, i will invite my colleague, ok?09:10
hidekazuYumeng: my colleague is evaluating container, he may help us.09:11
Yumenghidekazu: no problem.09:12
hidekazuYumeng: thanks.09:13
alexchadinhidekazu: why do we need temporary user?09:48
Yumenghidekazu: hi please check no.6 in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-Sydney-meetings ! I just updated it.09:50
hidekazualexchadin: good point. because new volume should be created in the same project original volume created in.09:53
hidekazuYumeng: thanks, i will check.09:53
hidekazuYumeng: NEC does not use watcher :(09:56
Yumenghidekazu: do you use volume migration/zone migration ?09:57
hidekazuYumeng: we created zone migration as poC and ended in March09:59
Yumenghidekazu: As far as I'm considered, we can conclude all the features we have until pike. Is that right?09:59
hidekazuYumeng: i am not proposing zone migration in pike.10:00
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Yumenghidekazu: ok. Then maybe you need to make some modification.10:01
hidekazuYumeng: public information is this: http://www.nec.com/en/press/201705/global_20170508_01.html10:01
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Yumenghidekazu: do you have any public report about this research? something like  white paper10:20
hidekazuYumeng: no, i do not have.10:20
Yumenghidekazu: ok. fine10:21
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openstackgerritHidekazu Nakamura proposed openstack/watcher-specs master: Add Volume migrate action spec  https://review.openstack.org/46881710:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/watcher-specs master: Add Volume migrate action spec  https://review.openstack.org/46881710:52
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/watcher master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/48334312:51
openstackgerritAlexander Chadin proposed openstack/watcher master: Update weekly meetings time in docs  https://review.openstack.org/48334412:52
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openstackgerritAlexander Chadin proposed openstack/watcher-dashboard master: Update docs to the new standards  https://review.openstack.org/48336313:02
openstackgerritAlexander Chadin proposed openstack/watcher-dashboard master: Add DS_Store to gitignore  https://review.openstack.org/48336913:04
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/watcher master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/48334313:12
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openstackgerritmelissaml proposed openstack/watcher master: Update URLs in documents according to document migration  https://review.openstack.org/48323514:11
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aspiershi all, anyone interested in being involved in this idea for a Sydney session? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sydney-self-healing-talk17:33
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