Thursday, 2020-04-16

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melsakhawy#strartmeeting uc13:30
melsakhawy#startmeeting uc13:30
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 16 13:30:31 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is melsakhawy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:30
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:30
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'uc'13:30
jayahno/13:31
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melsakhawyhey jayahn13:31
jayahnhi13:31
melsakhawy#topic Merger Diiscussion13:32
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melsakhawy#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc13:32
melsakhawyso we had two items we wanted to think about last time13:32
melsakhawyfirst one was the AUC/ATC , weather we want to merge them them or other options13:33
melsakhawyI rethought about the merger, and considering that some of the work of TC will include UC's responsibilities13:35
jayahnyes, it will13:35
melsakhawyI think the merger idea of the lists makes sense13:35
jayahndoes ATC have any sort of right on anything? rather than cating vote on TC election?13:36
melsakhawyInitiially I didn't like the idea of having members vote on committies that they are not involved in their work, but since it's going to be a single body, it does make sense13:36
jayahnand i agree with you13:37
melsakhawyNot really sure. But from Thierry's email, I got the idea that it's only voting rights13:37
jayahnthen, we can probably consider having a unified one (for instance, AC? active contributor), rather than ATC and AUC?13:39
melsakhawyyeah that sounds like a good idea13:39
melsakhawynot sure of implications to the bylaws13:40
melsakhawybut we can put the idea out13:40
melsakhawyso it seems we'r in support of a merger of the ATC and AUC, that's likely to make things happen much faster13:41
jayahnyeap13:42
melsakhawygood , so the second point we wanted to discuss is the timeline.  Upcoming elections for UC are in August13:43
jayahnpersonally, having one name as Active Contributor will have a positive impact on community participation.13:43
melsakhawyyeah agreed13:43
melsakhawyso for the timeline , with 4 months to complete the merger if we want not to hold other elections13:45
jayahnit seems. will it be feasible plan to complete the merger withink four months?13:46
melsakhawyI think it highly depends on if everyone is supportive of the approach13:46
melsakhawythere'll probably have to be a transition period, where we attend TC meetings13:47
jayahnthen, it is somewhat up to the current TC member's willingness to make it happen.13:48
melsakhawyto some extent , yes13:48
melsakhawythe plan has to be approved on both ends for it to be adopted fast13:49
melsakhawyI am thinking to draft an email with our view on the merger , highlighting what we agreed we want to see in the merged committee13:49
melsakhawyand share it by you then send it to the list to get the discussion going13:49
melsakhawythis way the debate can happen and we try to get the ball rolling13:50
melsakhawywhat do you think ?13:50
jayahnthat sounds good.13:51
melsakhawyperfect13:52
melsakhawyI don't have any new items except I need to follow up on the Ambassador program revamp with someone from the foundation13:52
melsakhawyany new items on your side ?13:52
jayahnsorry, my irc client had some problem13:53
melsakhawyI was actually asking if you had any new items on your side ?13:54
jayahnno, not from me13:54
melsakhawyokay , so I will work on that email draft and  share it with you, hopefully before next week's meeting13:55
melsakhawythen we go from there13:55
jayahnokay. sounds like a good action plan. thanks for taking this upfront13:55
melsakhawyno worries. Thanks jayahn13:56
melsakhawyhave a good rest of your day13:56
melsakhawy#endmeeting13:56
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Apr 16 13:56:43 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)13:56
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/governance-uc master: Cleanup docs building  https://review.opendev.org/72052315:46
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/governance-uc master: Cleanup docs building  https://review.opendev.org/72052315:54
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