Thursday, 2020-02-20

ricolinspotz, :)01:23
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spotzMorning all13:30
spotz#startmeeting UC13:30
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 20 13:30:37 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:30
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:30
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'uc'13:30
spotz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc13:31
spotz#topic ROll Call13:31
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belmoreirao/13:31
jayahno/13:31
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spotzI just saw melsakhawy log in and John wrote he won't be here aas he's still on vacation.13:33
spotz#chair jayahn melsakhawy belmoreira spotz13:34
openstackCurrent chairs: belmoreira jayahn melsakhawy spotz13:34
spotzNormally this would be the turn over meeting for the new UC. melsakhawy said he's afk and can just monitor the meeting. jayahn do you want to run it or would you like me to? In hindsight I gueess I could have re-ran but wanted to leave the spots available for new leaders. And if you all need help I can stick around in the future unofficially.13:37
jayahncould you please run it for now?13:39
spotzOk13:40
jayahnlet's prepare turn over in the following week.13:40
spotzWe'll skip chair and co-chair as melsakhawy isn't really here. I'll move to next week's agenda13:40
spotz#topic Vancouver13:40
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spotzI did get a reply from Ashley in regards to this, there will not be any bigger level workshops and I'd say the opportunity for more advanced ones will be few if any. jayahn you thought you might still be able to go for Airship?13:42
jayahnhonestly, not sure. it will be much clear around the end of March13:42
jayahnwhen annual plan and budget is finalized13:43
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spotzjayahn ok and we need to request space the first week. If yuo want I can always request it and fill in on sight if needed13:44
jayahndo we need discuss what UC will do at the Vancouver? since this is not a usual summit we know.13:46
jayahnany discussion will happen especially regarding uc tc merger, or anything someone from UC must attend? spotz: any idea?13:47
spotzI think it woulld be more thee joint leadership meeting and be available to meet with others for discussions13:47
jayahnokay13:47
spotzI do think it'll be an opportunity to discuss the merger in person13:47
spotzNow whether that would be in 'our' rerquested spacee the tcs or in the hallways13:48
spotzI can't see UC rerquesting morre then an hour of room space13:48
jayahni need to find out if ops session will happen in Vancouver. I definitely need to discuss ops meetup at Seoul planning for Sept this year.13:48
jayahnthat will be a good reason for me to get travel fund from the company13:49
spotzI do know Erik is planning on being there and I think Chris, Seaan will definiteely be there, not sure about Shintaro. Aand I plan on being there13:49
spotzSo I'm preetty sure that can be aarranged on OPS Meetup side:)13:50
jayahnokay, then there is high possibility I can go Vancouver. :)13:50
jayahnsince my company is hosting OPS meetup in Sept. in Seoul13:50
spotzPerfect. Ok I'll go ahead and request and hour slot for UC, Chris will request a slot for OPS Meetup as we discussed in that meeting on Tuesday morning actuaally13:53
jayahngreat13:53
spotzAnything else on Vancouvere?13:53
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jayahnnope13:54
spotz#topic Merger13:54
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spotzSo the last thing I had under old business was the merger.13:54
spotzFrom the post-election talks, UC will be maintaining work on curreent projects but planning for the merger. I'm not sure the merger will be completed by the Fall election but it's a good goal13:55
belmoreiraIt would be great to merge it before fall!13:57
belmoreiraotherwise the UC can be in a backhole situation13:57
spotzFrom what Thierry said in the TC meeting I had posted the log to merging will be veery time consumming governance wise. It would definitely be easier to just disband the UC:(13:59
jayahn:(13:59
belmoreiraI don't think next TC elections will be as popular as in the past. Considering also the UC situation, a new governance body should be a priority for the community.14:00
spotzIt did seem from the emails that they would find a way to include AUCs in the voting14:01
spotzI do agree bel, even the Board eeleections didn't have a lot of non-eelected candidates. albeeit getting 10 nominaations by the deaadline does keep those list oof nominees doown14:01
spotzdang tab belmoreira14:02
spotzI think the problem is fewer companies involved and fewer individuals doing it on their own14:05
belmoreira+1, so we can't continue with the same governance structure from 4? years ago14:06
jayahn+1 as well14:06
spotzYeah that's kinda whatt I see the trend being. Some parts of our governance are great and led the way for others but it's looking like we need to adapt14:10
spotzWe did haavee 1 candidatee get manageer permission to run afterr nominatioon periood closeed:(14:11
spotzOk anything else on tthis? We have 15 minutes for newe business or open discussion14:15
jayahnno14:17
spotz#topic Open Discussion14:18
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spotzAand if no one actually has anything we can close out14:18
jayahnthanks everyone. please get healthy.14:19
jayahnkeep healthy14:19
melsakhawyThanks everyone14:20
spotzTake carere all14:20
spotz#endmeeting14:20
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Feb 20 14:20:44 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:20
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spotzreboot time fr me I thtink14:21
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