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| jayahn | o/ | 12:26 |
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| spotz | Morning:) | 13:28 |
| spotz | jayahn OPS meetup team has been looking for you | 13:29 |
| jayahn | morning. | 13:29 |
| spotz | #startmeeting UC | 13:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 30 13:31:00 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:31 |
| melsakhawy | Goodmorning | 13:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: UC)" | 13:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 13:31 |
| spotz | #topic ROll Calll | 13:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ROll Calll (Meeting topic: UC)" | 13:31 | |
| jayahn | i am going through my gmail and got one from ops meetup folks. with new years holiday and other tasks filed up on my list, i was not able to check my gmail. | 13:31 |
| jayahn | spotz: i will contact them | 13:31 |
| spotz | Thanks jayahn:) | 13:31 |
| spotz | #chair belmoreira melsakhawy jayahn spotz | 13:32 |
| openstack | Current chairs: belmoreira jayahn melsakhawy spotz | 13:32 |
| spotz | I thin that's everyone on line | 13:32 |
| spotz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc | 13:32 |
| spotz | agenda | 13:33 |
| spotz | Hopefully belmoreira will wake up and John willll login but let's get started | 13:35 |
| spotz | #topic Ambassador Program | 13:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ambassador Program (Meeting topic: UC)" | 13:35 | |
| spotz | melsakhawy: You want to start | 13:35 |
| melsakhawy | I did some work on the draft | 13:36 |
| melsakhawy | More covering the nomination procedures, appointment and follow up | 13:36 |
| spotz | What do you need from us? | 13:36 |
| melsakhawy | Basically self/external nomination | 13:37 |
| melsakhawy | And that the UC recommends or not the approval of a nominee to be an Ambassador | 13:37 |
| melsakhawy | Or SC if UC merged with TC | 13:38 |
| spotz | I know Allison asked about criteria for measurement. | 13:38 |
| melsakhawy | Correct | 13:38 |
| spotz | I actuallly had an idea but can't remember it! | 13:38 |
| melsakhawy | In the draft, Ambassadors are required to provide a plan of action | 13:38 |
| melsakhawy | In the first 3 months of appointment | 13:38 |
| melsakhawy | That the UC validates and checked progress after 1 year of appoint5 | 13:39 |
| melsakhawy | Appointment | 13:39 |
| spotz | Oh now I remember, what about monthly quarterly updates? | 13:39 |
| melsakhawy | I think quarterly are good | 13:39 |
| jayahn | oh, i think quarterly updates is good idea. monthly is probable too much | 13:39 |
| melsakhawy | I haven't yet touched the part that talks about the role itself , in detail | 13:40 |
| melsakhawy | But I think we are in agreement to add outreach in addition to user groups | 13:40 |
| melsakhawy | One thing I added as a role is brand strengthening and advocating | 13:40 |
| melsakhawy | But wanted to see what everyone thinks of that | 13:41 |
| spotz | Yeah though wee need to also define what Outreach is. | 13:41 |
| melsakhawy | True | 13:41 |
| melsakhawy | We need to specify what the endgoal of outreach | 13:42 |
| jayahn | when we say "brand", openstack? or everything under osf? | 13:42 |
| melsakhawy | Everything under OSF | 13:42 |
| spotz | Just OpenStack, we don't have governance over the other projeects | 13:43 |
| spotz | Typing hiistory:) | 13:43 |
| melsakhawy | Good to know:) | 13:44 |
| jayahn | that means, Ambassador is only for "openstack" project? I understand governance issue, but limiting ambassador only for openstack only seems odd | 13:44 |
| spotz | So the UC and TC are the governance over the OpenStack project. At the llast stand alone PTG the UC met with reps from the otheer projeects to see if they wanted to be under the UC or atleast get help from us and they declined | 13:45 |
| spotz | So brand/outreeach/etc for thee Ambassadors would just be OpenStack | 13:45 |
| spotz | Now for reeference the D&I WG reports to just the board so we have reached out to start inclluding the other projects | 13:46 |
| jayahn | i can see that. however, for user group perspective, usually we don't consider "openstack" is only scope of user group, never thought about creating another user group for airship, starlingx, etc | 13:46 |
| jayahn | if ambassador is tightly related with local user groups, limiting their activity on "openstack" might create odd situation, IMHO | 13:47 |
| spotz | Not disagreeing, just saying we don't have goverrnance over the otherr projects to technicallly incllude them. That doesn't mean we can't give reps from the projects a say on the Aambassadors:) | 13:49 |
| melsakhawy | I agree , but with that spotz mentioned. It doesn't make sense that UC /SC has oversight on Ambadsador program that does branding for all OSF | 13:49 |
| melsakhawy | So we can keep it to Openstack brand for consistency | 13:50 |
| melsakhawy | If everyone agrees to the principal of the role | 13:50 |
| spotz | And if we run into an issue we can see about a joint project group | 13:51 |
| melsakhawy | Sounds good | 13:52 |
| melsakhawy | I will continue working on the draft | 13:52 |
| jayahn | yeah. that sounds good | 13:53 |
| melsakhawy | And ask you guys for comments on it | 13:53 |
| melsakhawy | Probably next week | 13:53 |
| spotz | Ok sounds good, I keep it open and peek at it occassionallly:) | 13:53 |
| spotz | Antone have anything else on this? | 13:54 |
| spotz | I so ned to get my keyboard fixed:( | 13:54 |
| spotz | #topic Election | 13:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Election (Meeting topic: UC)" | 13:54 | |
| jayahn | I just want to say that, when running openstack user group here in Korea, I really hated to be heard or to say.. "our users (people in user group) all interested in all of these projects, but we have to consider who has jurisdiction". that was pain. | 13:55 |
| spotz | jayahn: I think some groups have gone moree open. We can work with the OSF on these things like caas we have an OSF vs OpenStack usergroup, etc | 13:57 |
| jayahn | spotz: super :) | 13:58 |
| spotz | And moving the meetuup groups out of UC to OSF will make moree sense when the UC and TC get combined | 14:00 |
| spotz | Ok elections:) | 14:00 |
| spotz | Rain and I aree the election officialls as I'm not running. Rain has been at a conference so haven't touched base with her yet. John sent out a reeally good email with timelines and everything else. | 14:01 |
| spotz | Anyone have any questions on the timeline? | 14:02 |
| spotz | #action spotz get together with Rain and get things moving for election | 14:04 |
| spotz | #topic New Business | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New Business (Meeting topic: UC)" | 14:04 | |
| spotz | Reviews:) | 14:05 |
| spotz | So we currentlly havee been asked to review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704746/ which is in our repo. Pllease check it out ii's just some maintenance but I wanted to make sure eeveryone was getting in the habit of doing reviews | 14:05 |
| spotz | You can always see whaat we have pending here https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/governance-uc | 14:06 |
| spotz | Any questions on reviews?:) | 14:08 |
| jayahn | nope. i will get my eyes on the review. | 14:08 |
| spotz | #topen discussion | 14:09 |
| spotz | #topic open discussion | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: UC)" | 14:09 | |
| spotz | Anyone have anything else to discuss? | 14:09 |
| spotz | #endmeeting | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack UC: Meetings Tuesdays @ 1230 UTC | Agenda - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc" | 14:11 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 30 14:11:16 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2020/uc.2020-01-30-13.31.html | 14:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2020/uc.2020-01-30-13.31.txt | 14:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2020/uc.2020-01-30-13.31.log.html | 14:11 |
| spotz | Ok everyone gets 20 minutes back | 14:11 |
| spotz | Thanks for replying to the OPs team jayahn | 14:11 |
| melsakhawy | Thanks everyone | 14:12 |
| jayahn | spotz: no problem. thanks for letting me know | 14:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance-uc master: Import publishing job https://review.opendev.org/704746 | 22:10 |
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