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| spotz | Meeting in 13:) | 13:19 |
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| spotz | #startmeeting UC | 13:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 12 13:31:54 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:31 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 13:31 |
| spotz | #startmeeting uc | 13:33 |
| openstack | spotz: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 13:33 |
| spotz | Ok thought meeting hadn’t started so switched devices | 13:34 |
| spotz | #topic roll call | 13:34 |
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| belmoreira | o/ | 13:34 |
| studarus | o/ | 13:34 |
| spotz | #chairs spotz Studarus belmoreira | 13:35 |
| spotz | #chair spotz Studarus belmoreira | 13:36 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Studarus belmoreira spotz | 13:36 |
| spotz | Ok good:) | 13:36 |
| spotz | Trying to do this off my phone so apologies | 13:36 |
| spotz | #topic Old Business | 13:36 |
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| spotz | So we haven’t met in awhile I’d like to start with y’all’s feedback on summit and the UC related sessions | 13:37 |
| studarus | I didn't make it to the Summit. | 13:38 |
| belmoreira | i was there. | 13:39 |
| spotz | Oh I thought you had just not the joint leadership. Belmoreira can you update then? | 13:39 |
| belmoreira | trying to find the etherpad | 13:40 |
| belmoreira | can't find it now | 13:41 |
| belmoreira | I was in the "User Group Forum" | 13:41 |
| belmoreira | it was during the first day, right after the keynotes | 13:42 |
| spotz | Any good feedback? | 13:42 |
| belmoreira | the keynotes got late and people started to show up maybe 15 min after the session start | 13:42 |
| spotz | :( | 13:43 |
| belmoreira | few user groups there. I remember Japan, South Korea, Germany | 13:43 |
| belmoreira | jaesuk was there as well | 13:43 |
| belmoreira | the main point that I recall was us offering help to the user groups | 13:44 |
| belmoreira | as point of contact | 13:44 |
| spotz | Ok and so far no emails there but we rarely do get asked | 13:45 |
| belmoreira | yes, that was one of the points... ofereing help | 13:45 |
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| belmoreira | because it started late we didn't have a lot of time | 13:46 |
| belmoreira | I have an etherpad. Unfortunately I can't find now. | 13:46 |
| spotz | Ok so that might roll into the next thing we had ambassador updates from one of the last meetings. Studarus you have anything on that? | 13:46 |
| spotz | Just send the link to everyone when you find it:) | 13:47 |
| studarus | nothing new on the Ambassador side | 13:47 |
| spotz | Ok | 13:47 |
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| spotz | Anything else old to discuss? | 13:47 |
| belmoreira | next time we need to handle better the board meeting | 13:47 |
| belmoreira | I was not expecting to give the presentation | 13:48 |
| belmoreira | At the end it went well. | 13:48 |
| spotz | I think Jaesuk missed because of the schedule change:( you weren’t supposed to be there alone | 13:48 |
| spotz | I appreciate you stepping up | 13:49 |
| belmoreira | np | 13:49 |
| spotz | #topic UC elections | 13:50 |
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| spotz | We have a little time before our elections but at the beginning of the fall we brought up maybe reducing the UC size. We won’t make a decision but I did want to bring it up again for discussion as I think if we’re going to reduce back to 3 this would be the best election to do it | 13:51 |
| spotz | Just wanted to get thoughts | 13:52 |
| belmoreira | i support that idea | 13:53 |
| studarus | what's the benefit of having a smaller team? | 13:53 |
| studarus | it isn't like the foundation incurs a cost | 13:53 |
| belmoreira | my main concern is volunteers to enroll in this activity | 13:54 |
| belmoreira | we saw it during the last election... and the TC is facing the same issue | 13:54 |
| spotz | There’s 2 that I see. Easier to make quorum and then easier to get candidates to run who really want the roll | 13:54 |
| studarus | if you go smaller, it just becomes more difficult to get attendance at Summits | 13:54 |
| studarus | with three, will we get worldwide coverage? | 13:55 |
| spotz | But is attendance at summit the purpose of the group? I think Shanghai should be considered different as there were additional concerns for Tavel. I have never seen the full UC or TC at a summit | 13:55 |
| studarus | I'm just saying, with 5, there's a better chance of at least 1 person being there | 13:56 |
| spotz | Studarus coverage I think is a valid concern though we have no related governance that says we need people from any area | 13:56 |
| studarus | unless we find 3 people that are super committed | 13:57 |
| spotz | I would hope all members of the UC are super committed. I don’t think attendance at summit determines that though | 13:57 |
| spotz | But yeah we need everyone’s view points so we can decide before opening the election. I don’t like the idea of not having a fall election if we decide we want to change | 13:59 |
| studarus | right now, we're electing 3 in Feb 2020? | 14:00 |
| studarus | so the idea is just to elect 1 in Feb 2020? | 14:00 |
| spotz | Yes the 3 of us are up. If we did decide we would elect 1. And if needed Mohammed could move to chair unlike this time when we were leaderless for a bit | 14:01 |
| spotz | That’s part of the appeal on the timing. Chair and co-chair are on different cycles | 14:02 |
| spotz | Even if Mohammed didn’t want to be chair he could lead during the transition | 14:03 |
| studarus | Feb elections would start Feb 4 with nominations | 14:03 |
| studarus | so we'd need the change done before then | 14:03 |
| spotz | Yeah so we’ll have January to talk but if we do want to make any changes we need to start discussing | 14:04 |
| spotz | And if we don’t that’s fine too | 14:04 |
| studarus | do we need community input? | 14:05 |
| spotz | Just wanted to start conversations. I don’t think so as I don’t remember any when we went from 3 to 5 but can verify | 14:06 |
| spotz | For reference I was elected the first year of the expansion from 3 originally | 14:06 |
| studarus | and why was it expanded to 5? | 14:06 |
| spotz | Community was growing and we were in the hype cycle | 14:07 |
| studarus | and there were just more community members interested in serving? | 14:07 |
| spotz | In most capacities yes not just UC | 14:08 |
| spotz | It’s just hard to get people now for most things | 14:08 |
| spotz | We’re not the only community having trouble with meetups and such | 14:09 |
| belmoreira | I agree with amy | 14:09 |
| spotz | Ok back on computer:) | 14:10 |
| spotz | We're at 15 minutes? Anything else on this? I have one more thing to bring up | 14:12 |
| studarus | bring it up quick then | 14:14 |
| spotz | aprice is asking for us to write up the UC update for the Annual report. I will look for last year's info and send to the group | 14:15 |
| studarus | when is it due? | 14:15 |
| spotz | a was drii=ving to Florid | 14:17 |
| spotz | dang done eraseed half of that:( retyping | 14:17 |
| spotz | Oh actually it's in 2 parts | 14:17 |
| spotz | January 10th I believe | 14:17 |
| studarus | send it along and I'll see what I can contribute | 14:18 |
| spotz | Great thanks. And if you havene't reviewed the SIG patch that's up please take a llook at it. I don't think it's merged yet | 14:20 |
| spotz | Anyone else gave anything they want to bring up? | 14:21 |
| studarus | hmmm - don't see any pending merges | 14:23 |
| spotz | It looks merged | 14:24 |
| spotz | Nopoe this one https://review.opendev.org/#/c/695366/ | 14:24 |
| spotz | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/695366/ | 14:24 |
| spotz | So yeah please take a look and comment, we're holding off on the workflow to get comments | 14:25 |
| spotz | Ok anything else? If not I'll give us 5 minutes back | 14:25 |
| spotz | #endmeeting | 14:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 12 14:26:48 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-12-12-13.31.html | 14:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-12-12-13.31.txt | 14:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-12-12-13.31.log.html | 14:26 |
| spotz | Ok I'm back on vacation, I will look for last years doc and send the UC part to everyone | 14:27 |
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