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| spotz | Hey ricolin | 12:24 |
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| spotz | hey belmoreira | 12:25 |
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| belmoreira | hi spotz | 12:25 |
| spotz | Hopefully we'll get a few more folks | 12:27 |
| spotz | Fixed the agenda dates, not sure why I was in the future this week and last:) | 12:28 |
| belmoreira | :) | 12:29 |
| jayahn | o/ | 12:30 |
| spotz | hu jayahn | 12:30 |
| spotz | We atleast have quorum but meed Mohamed and his research for the goals discussion | 12:30 |
| jayahn | sorry for the last two weeks absence. night time is sometimes tricky, and I went vacation. :) | 12:32 |
| spotz | We'll give him and John 2 more minutes then we'll start | 12:32 |
| spotz | What's a vacation?:) | 12:32 |
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| melsakhawy | hello | 12:33 |
| spotz | Actually planning on one in December even if we go no where | 12:33 |
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| jayahn | 15th wedding anniversary :) | 12:33 |
| spotz | hey melsakhawy and studarus so we are ready to start! | 12:33 |
| spotz | #startmeeting UC | 12:33 |
| jayahn | hey | 12:33 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 15 12:33:37 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:33 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:33 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 12:33 |
| spotz | #topic ROl Call | 12:33 |
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| studarus | o/ | 12:33 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 12:33 |
| spotz | o/ | 12:33 |
| jayahn | o/ | 12:33 |
| spotz | #chairs spotz belmoreira jayahn melsakhawy studarus | 12:34 |
| spotz | #chair spotz belmoreira jayahn melsakhawy studarus | 12:34 |
| openstack | Current chairs: belmoreira jayahn melsakhawy spotz studarus | 12:34 |
| spotz | There we go | 12:34 |
| spotz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc | 12:35 |
| spotz | Sgenda if anyone needs it | 12:35 |
| spotz | Agenda.... | 12:35 |
| spotz | melsakhawy: You ready to lead with the UC goals research you've done? | 12:36 |
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| spotz | melsakhawy_: You ready to lead with the UC goals research you've done? | 12:36 |
| melsakhawy_ | yeah sure | 12:36 |
| spotz | #topic UC Goals | 12:36 |
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| melsakhawy_ | so I found two sources of documented goals | 12:37 |
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| melsakhawy | one from the charter | 12:37 |
| melsakhawy | and the other was the OSF bylaws | 12:37 |
| melsakhawy | the charter goals are to 1) represent the user community, 2) keep track of deployments and usage ; 3)share user experiences and 4) work with user groups worlodwide | 12:38 |
| melsakhawy | *worldwide | 12:38 |
| melsakhawy | If we dig deepedrinto this ones, we'r pretty myuch doing them all. but I think we can enhance 3 and 4 specifically | 12:39 |
| melsakhawy | the OSF bylaws state the goals as i) lead Working groups that are not under TC or BoD | 12:40 |
| melsakhawy | and an internal thing is to select the UC chair | 12:40 |
| melsakhawy | So this pretty much removes the confusion about the SIG groups i think | 12:40 |
| spotz | belmoreira: Do you remember off hand if there are WG that haven't converted to SiGs? | 12:40 |
| belmoreira | no, I don't remember | 12:41 |
| spotz | melsakhawy: Our connection to the SiG is by having a co-chair for the meta SiG, which is currently me. With ricolin fromt he TC side. | 12:42 |
| melsakhawy | ah i see | 12:42 |
| spotz | Let's start with is there any goal anyone thinks shuold be remooved? Then we'll go with changed and then added | 12:42 |
| belmoreira | the foundation is doing 2) with the survey | 12:43 |
| melsakhawy | for me , i don't thing any goal should be removed | 12:43 |
| jayahn | i also don't think any goal should be removed | 12:43 |
| studarus | same here | 12:44 |
| spotz | belmoreira: Any you think should be removed? | 12:44 |
| belmoreira | I would like to understand our contribution in that area | 12:45 |
| spotz | aprice You here if not I'll give it my best:) | 12:45 |
| spotz | Ok she might actually be in Berlin so give me a second to type up what *I* think our role is in that | 12:46 |
| aprice | I’m here | 12:46 |
| aprice | Let me catch up on the convo | 12:47 |
| spotz | Oh better:) belmoreira was asking for clarification on the UC role in the User Survey | 12:47 |
| aprice | Ah gotcha | 12:47 |
| aprice | In the past, the UC has helped with question creation / approval going into the survey as well as initial review of the results | 12:47 |
| aprice | Now that we don’t really change the questions much survey to survey, that first part doesn’t happen as much | 12:48 |
| aprice | However, the UC now reviews the reports / outcomes of the survey before it’s published | 12:48 |
| aprice | And also has the ability to set up calls with users to figure out how the UC can help them more. Although this hasn’t happened too often | 12:49 |
| spotz | And we have in the past helped with the correlation of data on the open question. | 12:51 |
| belmoreira | aprice thank you. It's the first time that I'm going through the user survey process and it was not clear to me the role of the UC | 12:51 |
| spotz | open questions... | 12:51 |
| aprice | Yeah - jimmy and I run point on it from the foundation side and we have been trying to refocus it as a feedback tool so less emphasis has been placed on it | 12:52 |
| belmoreira | aprice: considering that the report will be replaced by articles, do you expect us to review them? | 12:53 |
| aprice | belmoreira: we can definitely share before publishing, but I don’t expect it to be as review intensive as the report previously was | 12:54 |
| melsakhawy | I think there's value in being involved in the survey to keep track of deployments as well as, if needed reaching out to users to share their experiences | 12:56 |
| jayahn | +1 | 12:57 |
| spotz | It definitely helps keep us informed of what's going on, and personally I've gotten a lot out of helping with the correlatin if only to see how much folks like the community even if that never makes the report | 12:58 |
| belmoreira | yes, I agree | 12:58 |
| spotz | Ok so belmoreira- Any thing you feel should be removed? | 12:58 |
| spotz | Seeing if we can get consensus vs a vote on this:) | 12:59 |
| belmoreira | not really, I just wanted to understand better what's now the UC role in the user survey | 12:59 |
| belmoreira | thanks aprice spotz for the clarification | 12:59 |
| spotz | That gives us consensus as I think all the goals are still valid as well | 12:59 |
| spotz | So then next I think is should we change any of the goals, and this could just be wording for clarification or expanding on a goal | 13:00 |
| spotz | melsakhawy: I think you mentioned goal 3 and 4 earlier? | 13:01 |
| melsakhawy | Yeah , not necessarily changing the wording but there's likely more that can be done in those two goals | 13:02 |
| jayahn | for clarification, what is difference between user community and user groups? | 13:02 |
| studarus | user group is lead by an individual local organizer | 13:02 |
| studarus | user community is the global population which goes beyond just user groups | 13:02 |
| melsakhawy | for example, sharing the user experience part, we could have regular reach-outs to usergroups/ambassadors to get more experiences/stories | 13:03 |
| jayahn | got it | 13:03 |
| spotz | to build on that, what about either an operators blog or occassionally semthing in the newsletter? Not enough to spam but highlight inovative oro larger implementations | 13:04 |
| studarus | the user groups tend to be novices that don't have much experience to share - they're showing up to learn | 13:04 |
| melsakhawy | spotz that sounds like a good idea | 13:04 |
| jayahn | studarus: that is not always true | 13:05 |
| jayahn | but does not matter much in this context ;) | 13:05 |
| spotz | aprice is that something we can tag in to? | 13:05 |
| studarus | the ops meetup is definitely has experienced people | 13:05 |
| spotz | But we could deseminate an article back to the user grup, maybe with some slides to make it easy to be presented tp the grooups? | 13:06 |
| jayahn | however, ops meetup is not as larger as user group. in my personal experience, ops meetup has almost 0 visibiity in Korea, so all the experienced ops are talking each other through user group | 13:06 |
| jayahn | having said that, promoting ops meetup would be good action plan... | 13:07 |
| aprice | spotz: yeah we can definitely help find a place for blogs like that | 13:07 |
| spotz | jayahn: II knw OPs meetup moves around based on offers to host, I know they've been to Tokyp maybe someone would offer to host in Korea? | 13:07 |
| spotz | And please ignore typos it's a bad typing moorning:( | 13:07 |
| melsakhawy | how do the ambassadors fit in the picture ? | 13:08 |
| jayahn | spotz: i did have that conversation with ops meetup. :) however, what I meant is ops meetup is not known well to korean users / operators. maybe, we probably need some way of promoting there is a thing called "ops meetup" through each user group. | 13:09 |
| studarus | the OpenStack ambassador role was defined to help support user groups | 13:09 |
| spotz | jayahn: promote the groups twitter:) It'll make us tweet more | 13:10 |
| jayahn | and maybe helping user group to actually initiate local ops meetup. | 13:10 |
| spotz | And just a time check we're 20 minutes left | 13:10 |
| jayahn | and connect it to wider ops meetup folks. | 13:10 |
| jayahn | yeap. | 13:10 |
| melsakhawy | spotz since there's only 20 mins left, do you want to get action items for 3rd goal , since it seems we'r past it already ? | 13:11 |
| spotz | jayahn: That would definitely work but you need active organizers locally and cntent which is part of the issues the user groups are having | 13:11 |
| spotz | melsakhawy: Yep sounds good as that does seem to be the one we've all focused on | 13:11 |
| spotz | #action aprice find space for a user/implementation/deployement highlight blog/article | 13:12 |
| jayahn | spotz: yeah. that is true. | 13:12 |
| spotz | #jayahn Promote OPS meetup in Korea, possibly see about interest in local groups or hosting a larger one | 13:13 |
| spotz | nah! | 13:13 |
| spotz | #action jayahn Promote OPS meetup in Korea, possibly see about interest in local groups or hosting a larger one | 13:13 |
| jayahn | :) | 13:13 |
| spotz | studarus: Do you want to see if we put together mini presentations based on the articles if ambassadors and user groups would be interested? | 13:14 |
| studarus | sure - I can send out notes | 13:14 |
| melsakhawy | I can take on the 3rd goal as well as anyone who wants to be involved | 13:14 |
| spotz | #action studarus see if we put together mini presentations based on the articles if ambassadors and user groups would be interested? | 13:14 |
| spotz | melsakhawy: or belmoreira any action items on this? | 13:15 |
| melsakhawy | sorry not following the question | 13:15 |
| spotz | #action spotz speak with ops meetup and see if anyone there wouold like to be our first deployment. Or CERN? | 13:16 |
| spotz | Handing out action items on our discussions for #3 | 13:16 |
| spotz | :) | 13:16 |
| melsakhawy | ah , Yes, 3rd goad I can help with that | 13:17 |
| belmoreira | I can volunteer CERN for the user experiences :) | 13:17 |
| belmoreira | but defenitly we should talk with ops | 13:17 |
| melsakhawy | +1 | 13:18 |
| spotz | Ok so belmoreira will provide us with something for CERN and I'm going to hit up the OPS team in 45 minutes:) | 13:18 |
| spotz | Ok I'm goiong to save whether we want to add any goals for next week but would like everyone to think about it. We have 11 minutes so not enough time to get any real discussions going. | 13:20 |
| spotz | #topic Summit | 13:20 |
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| spotz | I just wanted to mention I haven't heard anything back on the leadership meeting agenda planning though I did give a poke and mention we were working on an update | 13:21 |
| spotz | #topic Open Discussion | 13:22 |
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| studarus | right now I'm planning on being there Sat-Wed | 13:22 |
| spotz | Agenda for next week is started, I added an old business section | 13:22 |
| spotz | studarus: perfect the meeting wouold be on Sunday | 13:23 |
| jayahn | meeting is on Sunday... I will probably need to be there early Sunday then | 13:23 |
| belmoreira | any idea when we will have access to the schedule? It would be great to plan my day | 13:24 |
| studarus | the forums too | 13:24 |
| spotz | belmoreira: Unless I'm the only one noot getting the emails I don't think there is one for Sunday yet. Typically mrning is the board meeting and the joiont leadership meeting is in the afternoon so in the past get there by lunch so you'll have a seat after:) | 13:25 |
| spotz | forums and ptg schedules I think went out to the lists. If you don't have them I can search | 13:26 |
| spotz | Still afew things were missing from the schedule last I looked like the Diversity lunch which I thought was sponsored by Intel | 13:26 |
| spotz | 2 minute warning:) | 13:29 |
| spotz | Oh jayahn looks like OPS meetup have a slot in Shanghai on Thursday afternoon | 13:29 |
| jayahn | spotz: okay. then, I have to stay till Thursday. :) | 13:30 |
| spotz | heheh | 13:30 |
| spotz | Ok thanks everyone! | 13:31 |
| spotz | #endmeeting | 13:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 15 13:31:06 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-10-15-12.33.html | 13:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-10-15-12.33.txt | 13:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-10-15-12.33.log.html | 13:31 |
| spotz | We definitely got a lot done today, really appreciate it! | 13:31 |
| spotz | Anyone have Horace's email handy? | 13:31 |
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| aprice | spotz: horace from the foundation? | 13:46 |
| spotz | aprice: yeah, fungi got it for me already | 13:47 |
| aprice | ah perfect | 13:47 |
| spotz | I was surprised I didn't have it already | 13:47 |
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