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| VW_ | josephrsandoval or spotz - not sure if my email came through, but can one of you drive? | 15:03 |
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| VW_ | I have to drop off early | 15:03 |
| josephrsandoval | ok | 15:04 |
| josephrsandoval | #startmeeting | 15:04 |
| openstack | josephrsandoval: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 15:04 |
| spotz | vw_ we'll take care of it | 15:04 |
| josephrsandoval | mt | 15:04 |
| josephrsandoval | #startmeeting uc | 15:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 19 15:04:59 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is josephrsandoval. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: uc)" | 15:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 15:05 |
| josephrsandoval | #chair | 15:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: josephrsandoval | 15:05 |
| josephrsandoval | #chair spotz VW_ josephrsandoval | 15:06 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VW_ josephrsandoval spotz | 15:06 |
| josephrsandoval | #rolecall | 15:06 |
| spotz | o/ | 15:06 |
| spotz | Once vw logs off we won't have a quorum. | 15:07 |
| josephrsandoval | yea. im holding | 15:07 |
| spotz | Did you both see John's email? | 15:08 |
| VW_ | o/ | 15:09 |
| VW_ | I did | 15:09 |
| VW_ | I had intentionally chosen not to run again, but meant to check in Friday. However, I was distracted by all day meetings, so I think that just confirms it was a good time for me to take a break ;) | 15:10 |
| josephrsandoval | i did | 15:11 |
| VW_ | id you opt not to rerun josephrsandoval, or did your announcement get gummed up in a list serv somewhere | 15:12 |
| josephrsandoval | #topic elections | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "elections (Meeting topic: uc)" | 15:13 | |
| josephrsandoval | i lost track of utc time | 15:13 |
| josephrsandoval | I was waiting to see if we receive any diverse candidates. | 15:13 |
| spotz | So based on that governance he found we need to contact people who had run in the past but hadn't been elected | 15:13 |
| spotz | Sorry in a slack call too:) | 15:13 |
| josephrsandoval | yea thats what john said | 15:14 |
| josephrsandoval | who would be assigned? the election officials? | 15:14 |
| VW_ | yeah - my thought is start with the most recent one that was closest to getting elected and work from there | 15:14 |
| spotz | Based on my research Leong should be cntacted first, then Kevin Carter and then James Page. If none of the accept we'll have too go farther back then a year | 15:14 |
| VW_ | or have a special election - if we can do that - I'd have to go reread | 15:15 |
| VW_ | but yeah, I think that is the right order, spotz | 15:15 |
| spotz | My only other suggest is if we get stuck at 4 members let OSF have a veto to break any ties | 15:15 |
| VW_ | hmm - interesting | 15:17 |
| aprice | i have a question | 15:17 |
| aprice | does it have to be 5 members? | 15:17 |
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| josephrsandoval | the voting quorum, team coverage, broadens team thought would arguments to keep it at 5. | 15:20 |
| VW_ | if anything, I think 5 was a minimum, aprice | 15:21 |
| VW_ | let me see if I can did it up | 15:21 |
| spotz | Yeah I think an even number is bad:( | 15:21 |
| VW_ | looks like it is written as 5 | 15:22 |
| VW_ | The User Committee (UC) will consist of five members. All members selected to the UC shall be Individual Members and Active User Contributors (AUC) based on the definition in the next section. | 15:22 |
| VW_ | So, based on the options I see spelled, out the going back to the previous election seems most prudent | 15:23 |
| VW_ | this particular case isn't covered explicitly | 15:24 |
| VW_ | #link https://governance.openstack.org/uc/reference/charter.html | 15:24 |
| spotz | Well we definitely need to go back, my concern is the farther back we have to go those folks are no longer in the community so we'll need to either have another election or a fallback | 15:27 |
| josephrsandoval | yea. maybe have a time cap of 1 year. | 15:27 |
| spotz | Well the last election there was no voting as no extra candidates so that doesn't help | 15:28 |
| spotz | VW_: did you see who it says has to contact past candidates? | 15:29 |
| VW_ | it doesn't say | 15:29 |
| josephrsandoval | right. so time cap of 1 year. fallback election as backup option. | 15:29 |
| VW_ | oh yeah, it does | 15:29 |
| VW_ | If a seat on the UC is vacated before the end of the term for which the member was elected, the UC will select a replacement to serve out the remainder of the term | 15:29 |
| spotz | That doesn't help in this case as both your terms are up | 15:30 |
| VW_ | Perhaps the best thing to do, is look back at the rules for elections themselves: | 15:31 |
| VW_ | The allotted number of UC seats are partially renewed every 6 months using staggered elections: the minority number of seats are renewed every (Northern hemisphere) Spring, and the majority number of seats are renewed every Fall. Seats are valid for one-year terms. For this election we’ll use a single-winner election system. The election is held no later than 3 weeks prior to each OpenStack Summit, with elections held open for no less than fou | 15:31 |
| VW_ | r business days. | 15:31 |
| VW_ | we are still in the window, so maybe we go with the person who raised their hand is automatically the 4th member, and we run another election to find another | 15:31 |
| VW_ | that seems to fit better than going backward | 15:31 |
| josephrsandoval | it might shake out some fence sitters who are interested. | 15:33 |
| spotz | Seems like the best plan. We could do that for a week and then talk to Leong, Kevin and James | 15:33 |
| VW_ | either way, we are outside the fully prescribed options, but yeah, I think it would be better to find someone who forgot/wasn't sure than going back a year | 15:33 |
| VW_ | should we vote? | 15:33 |
| spotz | I hate to do it without everyone but we do have a quorum so it's legal and saves us time | 15:34 |
| VW_ | we could call a special meeting tomorrow and try to get the other two here | 15:34 |
| VW_ | but yeah, technically, we can vote | 15:35 |
| josephrsandoval | #startvote | 15:35 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 15:35 |
| josephrsandoval | i guess i add the argument | 15:35 |
| ianychoi | As an election official, it is up to UC's decision - if either VW_ or and josephrsandoval want to renew UC, then UC can decide I think.. | 15:36 |
| spotz | ianychoi: They would still need to run | 15:36 |
| spotz | we're not filling a early vacated seat | 15:37 |
| VW_ | #startvote Should we seat the one candidate as the 4th member and have a second, special, election for the 5th seat within the timeframe spelled out in the charter (yes, no) | 15:38 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 15:38 |
| spotz | #vote yes | 15:39 |
| josephrsandoval | #vote yes | 15:39 |
| VW_ | #vote yes | 15:39 |
| VW_ | #endvote | 15:39 |
| VW_ | it didn't officially count them, but everything is logged | 15:40 |
| VW_ | in the meeting | 15:40 |
| josephrsandoval | ok. anything else on the vote? | 15:41 |
| VW_ | Ok - I have to drop. Let's respond back to the list with the decision here, and let's work with the elecion officials to welcome our new member and get them roped in, etc | 15:41 |
| josephrsandoval | great | 15:41 |
| VW_ | thanks folks! | 15:41 |
| spotz | Have fun VW_ | 15:41 |
| josephrsandoval | #endmeeting | 15:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack UC: 2019 Elections coming! Open Candidacy 01/21-02/03 | Meetings @ 1900UTC | Agenda - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc" | 15:41 | |
| ianychoi | If UC accepts special second, I am fine with that, but it would be great if renew UCs would provide comment why they missed nomination period | 15:41 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 19 15:41:29 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-08-19-15.04.html | 15:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-08-19-15.04.txt | 15:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-08-19-15.04.log.html | 15:41 |
| ianychoi | Without this, future elections might get less remark IMO.. | 15:41 |
| ianychoi | s/remark/attention | 15:42 |
| josephrsandoval | agreed | 15:42 |
| spotz | I'm just worried our older former candidates are no longer involved. We could also reach out to the 3 and see if any are interested in running | 15:44 |
| ianychoi | spotz, nomination period were closed but how about extending nomination period agreed from current members? | 15:47 |
| ianychoi | (what I meant, current UC members) | 15:47 |
| spotz | ianychoi: What we just voted on was accepting our 1 candidate (no vote) and then a special election (new nominatioon period) to get a second memeber | 15:48 |
| ianychoi | spotz, aha I thought a special election meant to open a special new election, not extending the nomination period | 15:49 |
| spotz | well techinically it is a special election | 15:49 |
| ianychoi | Now I agree with that - then will the same election officials follow up such a special election? | 15:50 |
| spotz | if you and edleafe are willing:) | 15:51 |
| ianychoi | Me is sure :) | 15:52 |
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| edleafe | spotz: If it is within the next two weeks, I can. | 16:14 |
| spotz | Thanks edleafe I think the plan is as quickly as possible | 16:14 |
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