Monday, 2019-03-11

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VW_hello folks15:01
VW_#startmeeting uc15:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 11 15:01:30 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is VW_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'uc'15:01
apriceo/15:01
VW_#topic roll call15:02
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spotzo/15:02
apriceo/ for roll call's sake :)15:02
VW_o/15:02
VW_#chair spotz belmoreira15:03
openstackCurrent chairs: VW_ belmoreira spotz15:03
VW_looks like we might have light attendance this week15:04
spotzbelmoreira: If you haven't voted there's a patch for the SIG chair change. I can grab the link if you need it15:05
VW_I voted on it this morning15:06
VW_well +1'd it.  I didn't have an option to roll call or anything15:06
spotzThere wasn't15:07
VW_yeah15:08
VW_well, it looks like it's just two members and aprice15:09
VW_anything super critical we need to discuss15:09
jamesmcarthur_i'm here too15:09
jamesmcarthur_FWIW :)15:09
VW_well that changes everything15:09
apricenothing critical from my end15:10
jamesmcarthur_good times15:10
VW_Did anyone hear how the Ops thing went?15:10
VW_it was last week, right15:10
VW_#topic follow up from Ops Meetup15:10
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apriceyeah - Frank actually already sent me a writeup for Superuser15:10
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apricefrom both he and Chris, it sounds like it went really well15:11
apricethey had about 30 people attend15:11
VW_awesome!15:11
apricei know they put three placeholders in the forum submissions so hopefully they got some good content15:11
spotzYeah Eric said good conversations15:11
VW_oh - even better on the place holders15:11
VW_I was goigng to go through the pads and try to find some topics15:12
VW_but sounds like they are ahead of the game15:12
spotzVW_: They still need topics they just reserved spots. I thought the wiki said forum submissions ended yesterday but apparently Friday15:13
apricespotz: forum submissions ended yesterday15:13
jamesmcarthur_We extended it for teh Ops folks.15:13
spotzaprice: I went to the link and it said they were closed:( I was gonna put in one for the D&I survey results though not sure we'll have them back15:14
VW_OK - will try to join them tomorrow and see if we can get some stuff in there15:14
VW_just want to keep the feedback loop rolling :)15:14
apricespotz: when did you try to submit?15:14
aprice+1 VW_15:15
spotzaprice: Yesterday afternoon I think? After HEB:)15:15
VW_oh derp - you know what folks15:15
VW_we are an hour early15:15
VW_err, I was an hour early15:15
VW_when I sent my email15:15
apriceah right :/15:16
spotzhehehe15:16
VW_ok - I'll kill this and we'll try again in 45 minutes15:16
VW_k15:16
jamesmcarthur_We had 48 submissions15:16
jamesmcarthur_FTR15:16
apricethat time is going to be hard for me and Jimmy to join because we have a standing meeting internally15:16
VW_hmm - ok15:17
VW_OK - ending this.  I'll start one up again at the REAL 16:00 UTC15:18
spotzWell we can see if folks want to stay on this time, but when we fall back I'll be late at the earlier time. I can work around my standup15:18
jamesmcarthur_spotz: I just opened it back up if you want to put your submission in.15:18
spotzjamesmcarthur_: thanks15:18
VW_yeah - I'll add an agenda item for take 215:18
spotzI just wanted to get a slot in case we have the results. Hoping to line up who will be at summit at the D&I meeting15:19
VW_#endmeeting15:19
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Mar 11 15:19:31 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:19
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VW_will try again in 40 minutes15:20
VW_sorry, folks15:20
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VW_ok folks - trying again (the correct time now) :)16:01
VW_#startmeeting uc16:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 11 16:01:32 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is VW_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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VW_#chair spotz belmoreira16:01
openstackCurrent chairs: VW_ belmoreira spotz16:01
VW_#topic roll call16:01
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VW_o/16:01
spotzo/16:01
belmoreirao/16:02
spotzWell we didn't need get anyone else...16:03
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VW_#chair studarus16:04
openstackCurrent chairs: VW_ belmoreira spotz studarus16:04
VW_#topic Follow up from Ops Meetup16:04
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VW_So, I accidentally started the meeting an hour early because my brain hasn't adjusted for timezone changes yet16:05
VW_belmoreira, studarus - we discussed briefly then that the OPs meetup seemed to go pretty well and that the organziers had reserved some forum slots to hopefully bring content from there to the forum16:05
studaruswill these presentations be during the summit or PTG?16:08
VW_summit16:08
VW_the forum sessions16:08
studarusok16:08
VW_the idea is that we take some conversations that happened at a largely ops gathering and revisit them at the summit - hopefully with some devs around, etc16:09
belmoreirathere's any summary about the Ops discussions?16:09
belmoreirahttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-ops-meetup16:11
VW_yeah - I don't know that they have distilled it all down yet belmoreira, but aprice confirmed earlier that a summary was sent to them for Superuser articles and such16:12
VW_I'm going to try and hop in their meeting tomorrow and see what they have to say16:12
belmoreiraok, I will try to join16:13
spotzI'm usually there a few minutes or so after it starts16:18
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VW_sorry - there was an internet incident at the house16:21
VW_what I miss?16:21
belmoreirawe were waiting for you... :)16:21
studaruswe had to quell a coup16:22
studarusgood thing you returned16:22
VW_Ok, well then - moving along16:22
VW_#topic Formalizing the Ambassador role16:22
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VW_We committed to touch base on this the next couple of meetings16:23
VW_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc-ambassador-governance16:23
studaruswe've got an etherpad with thoughts and have been reviewing what the CNCF and Docker has been doing16:23
VW_yeah - looked it over16:23
VW_good start16:23
studarusthe Docker program is closed and the CNCF program takes submissions through a web form16:23
studarusbut the general idea is someone (not a group leader) that promotes through local presentations online and offline (tied to official projects)16:24
studarusone big distinction is they don't formalize geographic regions like we've been doing16:24
belmoreirahttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc-ambassador-governance16:25
studarusI'm generally thinking we ask for some past experience (i.e. two+) giving non-summit presentations either online or in-person around the core OSF projects16:26
VW_That sounds very reasonable16:28
spotzExcept there's not alot of activity at meetups. I know Austin is dead16:28
studarusand setup some sort of term (2 years)?16:28
studarusthat's the idea behind opening it up to online too - superuser articles, blog posts, etc...16:28
VW_gotcha16:30
belmoreirastudarus that's very good16:30
studarusthe key thing being there needs to an OSF project in there somewhere - not just a Terraform or Kubernetes demo...16:31
spotz+116:32
belmoreiraand what's the incentive to be an ambassador? for me this is one of the key points16:32
belmoreirawe need to define it very clearly16:33
belmoreiraalso, spotz touched a very good point "meetups activity is going down"16:34
studarusyou get your name and picture on the OSF website?16:34
studaruswell, what does a PTG lead get?16:35
spotzstudarus: nothing, most likely it's a PTL, core or someone with a vested interest16:36
studaruswell, for me, as an Ambassador, it gets my name out to hopefully bring in work since I freelance...16:37
belmoreiraI was thinking that considering the decline in meetups activity (my perception), having a very attractive ambassador role maybe a way to revive the community around meetups16:38
studarusLast year I was hoping city to city giving meetup talks (LA, NYC, Chicago, DC) - I would love to see the OSF promote something similar16:40
studarushelping out top speakers (Ambassadors) get to the groups16:41
studarusit somewhat dovetails into the speaker bureau discussion16:42
VW_yeah - I agree.  It would be a good model.  I know the OSF folks have discussed it in the past too. (the getting speakers to places bit) not sure how we get it all started16:44
jamesmcarthurOne of the things that we've discussed re: meetup talks was to source locally.16:44
jamesmcarthurThe purpose of ambassadors isn't supposed to be speaking at meetups.16:44
studarusI'd key in on a few good workshops and then train people regionally to give them at the meetups16:45
jamesmcarthurIt's meant to help the local groups organize and give them direction around content.16:45
ashfergsThe way I think about it, is that the role is a bridge between the Foundation and User Groups16:46
VW_right, but we also have discussed making it easier for meetup group organizers and such to connect with speakers who are local (or will be in the area)16:46
jamesmcarthurVW_ yes, that's why we updated the speakers bureau so you can search by zip code now (per some feedback we received in Vancouver)16:47
VW_awesome!16:47
studaruswe need a few more tweaks on the zip code - like being able to do a range of zip codes or wildcards16:47
jamesmcarthurnoted16:48
jamesmcarthurstudarus: you can search by City, which should cover any sort of zip range16:49
studarusCan we queue up a communication out to the meetup organizers with this new capability?16:49
VW_quick time check16:51
jamesmcarthurstudarus: that will go out with the next big ambassador email update16:51
VW_we have about 9 minutes left16:51
studarusok!16:51
ashfergsyes, it's queued, was wanting to get the new amb role figured out and then send it all at once16:52
VW_cool - let's touch base on this again next week16:53
VW_this being the formalizing the ambassador role16:53
VW_need to cover at least one other thing16:53
VW_#topic Meeting time with DST16:53
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studarusBack to 8am PDT please...16:54
VW_so, an issue came up earlier today.  If we stick to 16:00 UTC for meeting times, now that DST has happened, OSF folks may not be able to make it16:54
VW_before we tweak to 15:00 UTC, I just wanted to confirm here16:55
VW_spotz, belmoreira - thoughts?16:58
belmoreira15:00 UTC is only ok for me when we move to CEST (from last Sunday of March)16:58
spotzEither or for me16:58
belmoreiraoverlapping meetings16:59
belmoreiracan we do 17:00 UTC until 31/03/2019 and then 15:00 UTC?17:01
VW_Let's keep it at 16:00 UTC for a week or two more and then flip17:01
VW_to 15:0017:01
VW_it's not perfect for all, but minimal change and limits the troublesome weeks to most folks for 2 or 3 weeks tops17:01
VW_Ok - we have gone over, but anything else?17:04
VW_guessing not.  I'll go ahead and close this17:05
belmoreirathanks all17:06
VW_#endmeeting17:08
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Mar 11 17:08:33 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:08
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spotzThanks!17:09
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