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| VW_ | grettings all | 16:00 |
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| VW_ | let me get things kicked off | 16:00 |
| aprice | hello! | 16:00 |
| josephrsandoval | good morning. | 16:00 |
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| VW_ | #startmeeting uc | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 4 16:00:32 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: uc)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 16:00 |
| VW_ | #chair belmoreira spotz josephrsandoval | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VW_ belmoreira josephrsandoval spotz | 16:00 |
| VW_ | #topic roll call | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: uc)" | 16:01 | |
| VW_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| spotz | o/ | 16:01 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 16:01 |
| josephrsandoval | o/ | 16:01 |
| aprice | o/ | 16:01 |
| VW_ | #topic Representative on the meta-sig | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Representative on the meta-sig (Meeting topic: uc)" | 16:02 | |
| VW_ | did everyone see the email with Melvin and Thierry? | 16:02 |
| spotz | Yep | 16:03 |
| josephrsandoval | yes | 16:03 |
| belmoreira | yes | 16:04 |
| belmoreira | yes | 16:04 |
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| VW_ | hi studarus! | 16:04 |
| VW_ | #chair studarus | 16:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VW_ belmoreira josephrsandoval spotz studarus | 16:04 |
| studarus | Good morning! | 16:04 |
| VW_ | so, one of us should take Melvin's place on working with the TC for SIG oversight | 16:04 |
| VW_ | Wanted to bring it up here to find out who all had interest | 16:05 |
| studarus | can you talk to the duties, skills required, and time commitment? | 16:06 |
| VW_ | I don't have all the details. I think that Melvin met with Thierry periodically | 16:07 |
| VW_ | mrhillsman you hanging around by chance? | 16:08 |
| studarus | Sounds like a good opportunity to work with the TC | 16:08 |
| aprice | or ttx? | 16:08 |
| belmoreira | I was checking the links. There is not much information | 16:08 |
| mrhillsman | yeah, sorry, in a meeting brb | 16:09 |
| belmoreira | mentions only the SIG governance | 16:09 |
| studarus | I don't imagine that there are too many disagreements that reach this level and need to be resolved? | 16:09 |
| VW_ | no, I don't believe so | 16:10 |
| jamesmcarthur | The MetaSig is basically a kind of safety valve in case there are some major disagreement. studarus is right - i don't think they've had to use it thus far. | 16:10 |
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| studarus | what was the bit about there also being a standing member? | 16:12 |
| jamesmcarthur | It consists of one TC Member and one UC Member | 16:12 |
| jamesmcarthur | Typically, the chair of both. | 16:12 |
| VW_ | which I am fine to do | 16:13 |
| VW_ | I just didn't want to assume there wasn't passion for it on someone else's part | 16:13 |
| studarus | I'd like to nominate VM_ | 16:14 |
| studarus | I'd like to nominate VW_ | 16:14 |
| VW_ | I don't know if we need a vote on it, but can. Anyone else have a strong opinion? | 16:15 |
| spotz | As far as I know there haven't been any issues to require any effort | 16:16 |
| VW_ | Ok - well in the sake of moving on, I'll tell Thierry to put me in there. we can always change it later. Cool? | 16:19 |
| aprice | cool | 16:19 |
| aprice | thanks VW_! | 16:20 |
| studarus | excellent | 16:20 |
| mrhillsman | ok, i'm around | 16:20 |
| VW_ | hey mrhillsman - we were just confirming the time commitment and such for the meta-sig | 16:20 |
| mrhillsman | oh yeah it is not much | 16:21 |
| VW_ | did we do a formal vote before you represented us mrhillsman? | 16:22 |
| mrhillsman | we did not | 16:23 |
| mrhillsman | since myself and thierry were driving it | 16:23 |
| VW_ | ok - cool. Just wanted to make sure we were being consistent | 16:23 |
| VW_ | I think we have run this topic to ground - yes? | 16:23 |
| aprice | next topic! | 16:24 |
| VW_ | #topic Formalizing the Abassador role | 16:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Formalizing the Abassador role (Meeting topic: uc)" | 16:26 | |
| VW_ | studarus: you had some thoughts around this? | 16:26 |
| studarus | Yes! | 16:27 |
| jamesmcarthur | ashfergs can answer your queries | 16:27 |
| studarus | I'm hoping we can shift the program a little to get Ambassadors that are more proactive in helping all the user groups. | 16:27 |
| ashfergs | I support that! | 16:28 |
| studarus | Rather that taking user/meetup group leaders and making them ambassadors, instead find speakers/writers, make them ambassadors, and get them out to the user groups | 16:28 |
| studarus | The goal is to find contributors that are happy to present _outside_ of the summits. | 16:29 |
| aprice | i agree, however i feel like that's just one of the goals | 16:29 |
| aprice | whereas having a local perspective is also a goal of the ambassadors | 16:29 |
| jamesmcarthur | We also have the speakers bureau to help peopel find speakers local to their user group. | 16:30 |
| aprice | i also really support shifting the program a bit because i do think that increased involvement would be really welcome | 16:30 |
| ashfergs | which is updated with zip codes now! | 16:30 |
| studarus | we can promote from the speaker bureau into the ambassador role as they step up and give local community talks | 16:31 |
| ashfergs | sounds like this might be a good opportunity and time to start with defining the ambassador role | 16:32 |
| josephrsandoval | its almost like a meta-ambassador | 16:32 |
| belmoreira | how about blogs, articles... ? | 16:32 |
| studarus | any type of community outreach - so definitely blogs and articles | 16:33 |
| jamesmcarthur | do you mean as part of their responsibility belmoreira? | 16:33 |
| aprice | here is a starting point in defining the role | 16:34 |
| aprice | #link https://groups.openstack.org/ambassador-program | 16:34 |
| belmoreira | not what I meant. There are people that are very active promoting OpenStack not by speaking, but for example writing about it | 16:35 |
| studarus | on the application, we ask for a history of presenting at local groups, blogging, promoting as a core-dev, articles... | 16:35 |
| belmoreira | I see those as ambassadors | 16:35 |
| aprice | belmoreia: yeah, we actually try to get those folks as contributors to superuser.openstack.org | 16:35 |
| aprice | would love to use that as a way for an ambassador to contribute because travel budgets arent always easy to come by | 16:36 |
| aprice | i think that there has to be a virtual way to engage in the community as an ambassador | 16:36 |
| studarus | I also think we need a way to timeout ambassadors - people change roles and don't always let us know... | 16:37 |
| belmoreira | docker as this program of docker Captains: https://www.docker.com/community/captains | 16:37 |
| belmoreira | where they recognise people that shares their knowledge about the project | 16:37 |
| VW_ | so, is the first step to get a couple of us together with ashfergs to write up a draft of how things should look? | 16:37 |
| spotz | Yeah the Docker captins program I've heard good things about it | 16:38 |
| aprice | studarus: i think that's a good point, but i think that as we define the role of ambassador, the UC could engage more and have better relationships with them so we can avoid those role changes. | 16:38 |
| studarus | having the UC review and sign off on applications would make sense | 16:39 |
| aprice | +1 | 16:39 |
| ashfergs | VW_ +1 | 16:39 |
| ashfergs | Yes, I think that makes sense too | 16:39 |
| studarus | I'd be happy to put together that draft | 16:39 |
| VW_ | anyone else want to work with them on a draft - spotz, josephrsandoval, belmoreira? | 16:40 |
| josephrsandoval | i'm available to help review and provide feedback | 16:41 |
| belmoreira | I think there are already a lot of people involved for the first draft. When we have something then we should review/iterate here | 16:42 |
| spotz | I can help out | 16:42 |
| VW_ | cool - thanks ashfergs, studarus and spotz | 16:44 |
| VW_ | I'm assuming you all may want 2 or 3 weeks before we touch base on it again? | 16:44 |
| studarus | sure | 16:45 |
| VW_ | Ok - I'll but an item on the agenda for the 18th | 16:45 |
| ashfergs | maybe we should aim for under 2 weeks, because unfortunately the server the hosts the groups.o portal is outdated | 16:46 |
| ashfergs | so we're currently coming up with a plan to notify groups that they'll need to move over to meetup | 16:46 |
| ashfergs | figure it's the best time to go ahead and do it so our time doesn't spend time updating something we're trying to move away from anyway | 16:47 |
| VW_ | sounds fair | 16:47 |
| VW_ | I'll add it to the next two meeting and we can touch base on progress next Monday. If you all have a new draft before then, we can provide feedback on Monday? | 16:48 |
| studarus | k | 16:48 |
| ashfergs | the 3rd week of april is the deadline, so aprice and I are working on comms to the user groups this week. would love for it to involve the ambassadors more, but time just doesn't allow for it. | 16:49 |
| ashfergs | sounds good VW | 16:49 |
| VW_ | cool | 16:49 |
| VW_ | #action ashfergs studarus spotz work on draft of updates to Ambassador program | 16:50 |
| VW_ | #topic Forum needs in Denver | 16:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Forum needs in Denver (Meeting topic: uc)" | 16:50 | |
| studarus | perhaps a lunch rather than the breakfast that was done in previous years? | 16:52 |
| VW_ | yes - that might be good | 16:52 |
| VW_ | but I also wanted to make sure we had a rough list of space we might need while jamesmcarthur is around | 16:53 |
| VW_ | I'm also happy to submit requests through the process | 16:53 |
| VW_ | I think the breakfast/lunch is a good idea | 16:53 |
| spotz | It would need to be sponsored there’s no lunch on Denver | 16:53 |
| VW_ | ah - good point | 16:54 |
| aprice | is this just around meeting the UC? | 16:54 |
| aprice | could it be something where yall are around during the Marketplace Mixer on Monday evening and folks can come meet you in a certain area? | 16:54 |
| studarus | I'd like to use it as a chance to meet with user group leaders and get their thoughts | 16:55 |
| aprice | ah ok - so a Forum session like we did in Berlin? | 16:56 |
| studarus | that was the most rewarding portion of the breakfast last year | 16:56 |
| VW_ | yeah | 16:56 |
| aprice | studarus: the breakfast in Vancouver? | 16:56 |
| aprice | i didnt think we did one in Berlin but can't remember | 16:56 |
| jamesmcarthur | Vancouver was the only time we've done a breakfast. | 16:56 |
| jamesmcarthur | I believe. | 16:56 |
| spotz | We didn’t | 16:56 |
| studarus | must have been Vancouver | 16:56 |
| spotz | Or Sydney? | 16:57 |
| VW_ | so, time check - we have less than 3 minutes | 16:57 |
| VW_ | do we have time to move this to next week to revisit? | 16:57 |
| VW_ | I also want to make sure we secure a spot in the forum for discussion around one topic coming out of the Ops mid-cycle | 16:57 |
| aprice | VW_ jamesmcarthur is holding a few spots for the ops midcycle | 16:58 |
| VW_ | awesome | 16:58 |
| VW_ | in taht case - let's bump this conversation to next week | 16:58 |
| VW_ | #topic Other Business | 16:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Other Business (Meeting topic: uc)" | 16:58 | |
| studarus | I gotta run to my 9am... :( | 16:59 |
| VW_ | I have one small housekeeping item | 16:59 |
| VW_ | let's be sure not to +1 workflow on changes until at least 2 have reviewed and voted, etc | 16:59 |
| VW_ | I get that wrong sometimes too | 16:59 |
| studarus | gotcha | 16:59 |
| VW_ | and with a new mix of folks, it's worth reminding | 16:59 |
| belmoreira | thanks | 16:59 |
| VW_ | Thanks everyone for coming! | 17:00 |
| ashfergs | thanks! | 17:00 |
| josephrsandoval | thanks all! have a great Monday! | 17:00 |
| VW_ | I'll get the IRC banner updated too | 17:00 |
| spotz | Thanks | 17:00 |
| VW_ | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack UC: 2019 Elections coming! Open Candidacy 01/21-02/03 | Meetings @ 1900UTC | Agenda - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 4 17:00:24 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-03-04-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-03-04-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-03-04-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| mrhillsman | VW_ i did not see conversation regarding irc banner (topic?) but i believe that has to be done through the infra team so while you are can you have them remove me from opp as well | 17:01 |
| mrhillsman | s/opp/op | 17:01 |
| VW_ | will do mrhillsman | 17:01 |
| mrhillsman | channel op that is | 17:01 |
| mrhillsman | ty sir | 17:01 |
| VW_ | if you have an old email where you set it up, will you forward me a copy | 17:01 |
| mrhillsman | sure, will look and email you | 17:02 |
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