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| spotz | o? | 17:52 |
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| spotz | Welcome | 18:01 |
| VW_ | you dawgs! | 18:01 |
| VW_ | yo even | 18:01 |
| VW_ | I heard you like OpenStack... | 18:01 |
| spotz | Just a wee bit:) | 18:02 |
| spotz | We doing this thing? | 18:03 |
| VW_ | #startmeeting uc | 18:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 15 18:03:08 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 18:03 |
| VW_ | #chair spotz mrhillsman | 18:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VW_ mrhillsman spotz | 18:03 |
| VW_ | #topic roll call | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:03 | |
| VW_ | o/ | 18:03 |
| spotz | o/ | 18:03 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 18:04 |
| VW_ | cool | 18:04 |
| VW_ | we still aren't publishing to the new repo for agendas, correct? | 18:05 |
| jamesmcarthur | o/ | 18:05 |
| mrhillsman | not yet, i checked earlier | 18:05 |
| mrhillsman | we can resolve that today ;) | 18:05 |
| VW_ | cool | 18:06 |
| VW_ | #action mrhillsman to help solve the agenda problem | 18:07 |
| VW_ | #topic on the fly agenda | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "on the fly agenda (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:07 | |
| VW_ | what do you all want to talk about today | 18:07 |
| spotz | Forum schedule is being worked on I suspect it'll be finalized in the next few days and online | 18:07 |
| mrhillsman | when is the next community meeting? | 18:08 |
| mrhillsman | i missed the last one due to not getting an email - turned back on openstack-dev and surely it was just too many | 18:09 |
| mrhillsman | s/not getting/not seeing | 18:09 |
| mrhillsman | and cern ops meetup status | 18:09 |
| mrhillsman | user survey | 18:10 |
| mrhillsman | just off top of my head | 18:10 |
| VW_ | ok cool | 18:10 |
| VW_ | let me try to manage that | 18:10 |
| VW_ | #topic forum schedule | 18:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "forum schedule (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:10 | |
| spotz | mrhillsman: I think I saw an email about the community call this morning give me a sec | 18:10 |
| mrhillsman | re the forum schedule we had enough slots to fill all requests | 18:11 |
| mrhillsman | jamesmcarthur can provide better detail than me | 18:11 |
| spotz | mrhillsman: Ok maybe it was last week | 18:11 |
| jamesmcarthur | Yeah... i just posted a mock schedule to the Selection Committee. | 18:11 |
| mrhillsman | i believe we are waiting only for the schedule to be finalized as spotz said | 18:11 |
| jamesmcarthur | We have a last minute problem where Chris Morgan submitted 3 entries, but never finished the submissions | 18:12 |
| jamesmcarthur | Trying to figure out how to deal with that as they weren't included in the selection process. | 18:12 |
| spotz | Do we have space left? | 18:12 |
| mrhillsman | ah | 18:12 |
| jamesmcarthur | Mock schedule is here if anyone is interested: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JMfLJW7QS5mn7R2WlaAvTIXVqxFbEiNQFdTVX3LL4AA/edit#gid=2011941101 | 18:12 |
| jamesmcarthur | And no, we do not have space left. | 18:12 |
| spotz | Or could they be moved at least one to the WG/BoF session list? | 18:12 |
| jamesmcarthur | We had 69 submissions and 69 spots | 18:12 |
| mrhillsman | or rolled into others | 18:12 |
| spotz | bleh | 18:12 |
| jamesmcarthur | We're out of space for WG/BoF as well | 18:13 |
| VW_ | eek | 18:13 |
| VW_ | but good problem to have too | 18:13 |
| mrhillsman | we have done that before, asked for combining by reaching out to the moderators | 18:13 |
| spotz | We do it for normal talks/panels as well | 18:14 |
| jamesmcarthur | Not really a good problem to have, no. | 18:14 |
| mrhillsman | i see there are 4 ops sessions back to back | 18:14 |
| mrhillsman | i guess once you check with chris selection committee can make suggestions? | 18:15 |
| jamesmcarthur | I'm a little stuck here b/c the Selection Committee already accepted these other talks that were all submitted on time. | 18:15 |
| mrhillsman | that makes sense | 18:15 |
| jamesmcarthur | And it's already a very Ops heavy forum schedule. | 18:15 |
| jamesmcarthur | OTOH, I believe Chris submitted those three on behalf of the Ops Community | 18:15 |
| spotz | jamesmcarthur: are there any WG/BoF sessions left? | 18:16 |
| spotz | 2 of the 3 could be considered part of that and then not have the ceph session | 18:16 |
| jamesmcarthur | @spotz: I don't think so, but I'm double checking with Ashlee | 18:16 |
| mrhillsman | i guess it depends on the sessions requested honestly. we have done before combining after discussing with folks and in particular if sessions will not go the full time and it made sense to. | 18:17 |
| jamesmcarthur | Yeah... combining makes the most sense. | 18:17 |
| jamesmcarthur | Anyway... just a heads up. I'm working on it :) | 18:17 |
| spotz | mrhillsman: I don't think any of the 3 are combinable unless someone has a ceph session in there already | 18:17 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 18:17 |
| VW_ | Thanks for the update jamesmcarthur | 18:17 |
| VW_ | and for the record, my "good problem" comment was more that we are getting enough requests to fill all the spots | 18:18 |
| VW_ | not necessarily the conflict | 18:18 |
| mrhillsman | also for the topics - joint meeting | 18:18 |
| jamesmcarthur | "Operators Documents ("ops docs") working session" - that's one. Seems like it would be a WG not a Forum session | 18:18 |
| jamesmcarthur | VW_: understood :) | 18:18 |
| mrhillsman | not sure if you saw that email from alan VW_ | 18:18 |
| VW_ | I did - we need to get him an answer | 18:19 |
| VW_ | so... anything else on forum topics? | 18:19 |
| VW_ | if not... | 18:20 |
| VW_ | #topic Joint meeting topics | 18:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Joint meeting topics (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:20 | |
| VW_ | throwing this in based on mrhillsman's comments | 18:20 |
| VW_ | Alan wants to know if we have any topics we'd like to discuss for the joint session | 18:20 |
| mrhillsman | i think a general overview is good | 18:21 |
| mrhillsman | sorry s/overview/update | 18:22 |
| mrhillsman | not like last time though hehe | 18:22 |
| mrhillsman | i think public cloud wg and financial team would be good updates | 18:22 |
| mrhillsman | result of our discussion with the pilot projects | 18:23 |
| VW_ | Ok - should we start some slides? | 18:23 |
| mrhillsman | our shift to outreach and feedback, which uc member is assigned as liaison to which project/group/team | 18:23 |
| VW_ | which means we should probably do some outreach | 18:24 |
| mrhillsman | sure, let me dig up the last set we used | 18:24 |
| VW_ | :) | 18:24 |
| mrhillsman | i have been in the kata meetings and working with them so i can provide an update from what has been happening there | 18:24 |
| VW_ | I need to reach out to the zuul folks | 18:24 |
| mrhillsman | in particular my help - community/dev stats dashboard | 18:24 |
| VW_ | I'll work on that this week | 18:24 |
| spotz | I emailed with Ian after the PTG but no updates | 18:25 |
| mrhillsman | https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1gLcChOupELCGItD-SzhECEhFMGQc4jf0PlQxAijDMhw/edit?usp=sharing | 18:26 |
| VW_ | #action mrhillsman VW_ spotz start working on slides | 18:27 |
| mrhillsman | is that link accessible? | 18:27 |
| VW_ | afirmative | 18:27 |
| mrhillsman | thx | 18:27 |
| VW_ | #action VW_ spotz - follow up with your incubated projects | 18:28 |
| spotz | Yep I'm in | 18:28 |
| VW_ | let's keep those slides on the agenda every meeting between now and summit | 18:28 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 18:29 |
| spotz | Not that many meetings lift! | 18:29 |
| spotz | left even | 18:29 |
| VW_ | anything else on joint meetings? | 18:29 |
| spotz | Did we ever finalize anything with the TC? | 18:30 |
| mrhillsman | on the meeting once a month, unfortunately no | 18:30 |
| mrhillsman | additionally they just changed back to bi-weekly meetings iirc | 18:31 |
| mrhillsman | or do you mean for the joint meeting in berlin? | 18:31 |
| spotz | Yeah I saw that, office hours I guess weren't working for them as well as they'd hoped | 18:31 |
| VW_ | #topic regular joint meeting with TC | 18:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "regular joint meeting with TC (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:32 | |
| VW_ | I think spotz meant a recurring meeting with the TC mrhillsman | 18:32 |
| spotz | +1 | 18:32 |
| mrhillsman | i spoke with doug and his feedback was basically we should openly discuss x and if a joint meeting with tc around x makes sense put on agenda vs standing time/day/meeting | 18:33 |
| spotz | ok | 18:33 |
| VW_ | so, what's the first x | 18:34 |
| mrhillsman | here's his exact statment | 18:34 |
| mrhillsman | "I definitely see the usefulness of more regular communication between the two groups. As Chris points out, we've been trying to avoid requiring formal synchronous meetings as much as possible, I'd like to start by listing some of the topics we might discuss. Not all of them will need to wait for a meeting, and some may be better suited to an in-person meeting at the forum in Berlin. If we come up with a list of | 18:35 |
| mrhillsman | topics that do make sense for an online discussion, we can work out how best to handle that." | 18:35 |
| mrhillsman | one x i would like to get y'all feedback on is discussion around where to post like feature requests, gather consensus, and keep status update | 18:36 |
| mrhillsman | not sure if either of you were in the tc room at the ptg but we had quite a long discussion around this and i thought the plan was to use storyboard but during the email thread around acting on it there seemed to be rejection of the idea | 18:37 |
| VW_ | my vote is we harness one really good feature/bug item out of Ops discussions at forum and track/push/report on that to start | 18:38 |
| VW_ | and to flesh out a more firm process on how this might work | 18:38 |
| spotz | Sounds like a plan | 18:39 |
| VW_ | mrhillsman - thoughts? | 18:39 |
| mrhillsman | so the other thought i asked a few folks about was https://feedback.nolt.io/ | 18:39 |
| mrhillsman | i'm good with that plan | 18:40 |
| mrhillsman | which i think is what will need to be done anyway | 18:40 |
| VW_ | but I love the idea of moving the things we identify to track and sponsor as a UC with a tool like that | 18:40 |
| mrhillsman | from the SIG lead and PCWG leads in the room the concern was around there is no easy way to put something up, get community feedback, and know what made sense to socialize | 18:41 |
| mrhillsman | but i think this is a relevant thing to hash out with the tc | 18:41 |
| VW_ | I may have to drop a few minutes early | 18:41 |
| VW_ | #topic cern ops meetup | 18:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cern ops meetup (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:42 | |
| VW_ | I have an open action to connect Chris with the CERN folks directly | 18:42 |
| VW_ | will get that done today | 18:42 |
| VW_ | the comittee favors March | 18:42 |
| mrhillsman | please add me as i would like to pull huawei in as a sponsor | 18:42 |
| VW_ | CERN had originally thought May, but aren't locked in completely to anything, so I will get everyone talking | 18:42 |
| mrhillsman | but let cern lead | 18:42 |
| VW_ | lep | 18:43 |
| VW_ | yep | 18:43 |
| mrhillsman | ty sir | 18:43 |
| VW_ | is aprice here? | 18:43 |
| VW_ | wasn't sure if we wanted a User Survey topic | 18:44 |
| mrhillsman | def | 18:44 |
| mrhillsman | i think she is in china though | 18:44 |
| mrhillsman | jamesmcarthur am i right ^ | 18:44 |
| jamesmcarthur | aprice is in china | 18:45 |
| jamesmcarthur | I can give an update on User Survey | 18:45 |
| VW_ | #topic User Survey | 18:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "User Survey (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:45 | |
| mrhillsman | thx | 18:45 |
| jamesmcarthur | We have completed reviewing and tagging the free-text questions. aprice and I are working on combining that info and purging user-specific details, so that we can push out to the community. | 18:46 |
| jamesmcarthur | We've been working with the data scientist to get the first draft of graphs | 18:46 |
| jamesmcarthur | And should be pushing those out for UC review soon. | 18:47 |
| jamesmcarthur | We have a working outline for the report, but it needs to be cleaned up a little before it can be shared. | 18:47 |
| jamesmcarthur | Those are the high levels... | 18:47 |
| jamesmcarthur | Thanks to everyone that jumped in to help tag. | 18:47 |
| mrhillsman | ty sir | 18:47 |
| VW_ | awesome | 18:48 |
| tobberydberg | o/ | 18:49 |
| mrhillsman | hey there tobberydberg | 18:49 |
| tobberydberg | I'm around if anyone have any questions for PCWG =) | 18:49 |
| mrhillsman | we'll be asking for an update to the pcwg for the joint leadership meeting | 18:49 |
| mrhillsman | update from the pcwg | 18:49 |
| tobberydberg | ok, cool | 18:50 |
| spotz | hey tobberydberg! | 18:50 |
| tobberydberg | the joint meeting in Berlin, or before that? | 18:50 |
| mrhillsman | what is your email | 18:50 |
| VW_ | we have 8 minutes... | 18:50 |
| mrhillsman | you can provide one now for sure | 18:50 |
| VW_ | #topic Other business | 18:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Other business (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:50 | |
| tobberydberg | tr@citynetwork.eu | 18:51 |
| mrhillsman | or anything else you want to let us know / ask of us | 18:51 |
| tobberydberg | Not my intention to hog your meeting here =) | 18:51 |
| mrhillsman | no worries | 18:51 |
| mrhillsman | would be good to get that feedback from nordic days event too | 18:51 |
| mrhillsman | in particular one or two key things we can keep on the radar and socialize | 18:52 |
| VW_ | +++ | 18:52 |
| tobberydberg | Yes, that is my intention...send out to mailing list etc ... First time with forum style for alot of people, but was an ok 40 minutes I think | 18:52 |
| tobberydberg | Hope I get the opportunity to do it again, easier when people are more used to it | 18:53 |
| mrhillsman | yeah i wish i could have made it :( | 18:54 |
| jamesmcarthur | Congrats tobberydberg: on a very successful event! | 18:54 |
| jamesmcarthur | Loved the shirts :) | 18:54 |
| mrhillsman | but it looks like it went well | 18:54 |
| tobberydberg | Thanks jamesmcarthur! And the t-shirts man, my god ;-) | 18:54 |
| tobberydberg | yes, have to say that this was the best OSDN this far | 18:55 |
| VW_ | awesome! | 18:55 |
| VW_ | Ok - 4 minutes left | 18:55 |
| VW_ | anything else? | 18:55 |
| spotz | tobberydberg: Don't forget to bring me one in Berlin:) | 18:55 |
| VW_ | ooh ooh - me too - me too :P | 18:56 |
| mrhillsman | i was holding back on asking lol | 18:56 |
| mrhillsman | but yes, me too! xl | 18:56 |
| tobberydberg | Will bring as many as there is left ... people liked them =) | 18:56 |
| spotz | heheh, I'd alredy hit him up on the twitters:) | 18:57 |
| mrhillsman | thx for driving the meeting VW_ | 18:57 |
| mrhillsman | and everyone else for making it | 18:57 |
| VW_ | my pleasure | 18:57 |
| VW_ | everyone have a great day and rest of the week! | 18:57 |
| spotz | Thanks! I'm off to go install magnum | 18:57 |
| VW_ | #endmeeting | 18:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:57 | |
| spotz | ping if needed:) | 18:57 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 15 18:57:46 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2018/uc.2018-10-15-18.03.html | 18:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2018/uc.2018-10-15-18.03.txt | 18:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2018/uc.2018-10-15-18.03.log.html | 18:57 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 18:57 |
| tobberydberg | Take care! | 18:57 |
| mrhillsman | i'll be around as usual :) | 18:58 |
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