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| mrhillsman | #startmeeting uc | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 9 18:00:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mrhillsman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 18:00 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Roll Call | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:00 | |
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| mrhillsman | #chair spotz zioproto | 18:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: mrhillsman spotz zioproto | 18:01 |
| mrhillsman | Hi everyone, UC meeting started as you can see | 18:01 |
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| aprice | o/ | 18:02 |
| blake | o/ | 18:02 |
| john_studarus | o/ | 18:02 |
| josephrsandoval | o/ | 18:02 |
| john_studarus | medberry are you doing a birthday party? | 18:03 |
| spotz | \o/ | 18:03 |
| spotz | john_studarus: pretty sure he is | 18:04 |
| aprice | Yeah he told us via email that he was doing a party with Northern Colorado | 18:04 |
| john_studarus | do we have a master list? I'd like to send out a community email with all the parties that are going on. | 18:05 |
| john_studarus | at least across the US | 18:05 |
| spotz | And I think it was on the twitters | 18:05 |
| aprice | john_studarus: yes, Ashlee is pulling a list together for the openstack blog that will be shared to the community list | 18:05 |
| mrhillsman | glad to see you all | 18:06 |
| mrhillsman | #topic AUC Updates | 18:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AUC Updates (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:06 | |
| mrhillsman | so, we talked about adding quite a few additional aucs | 18:09 |
| mrhillsman | aprice: do you know if we have a way of capturing the larger group? | 18:11 |
| mrhillsman | i know we have the scripts from before but willing to bet that has significantly changed and i'm not sure but thought jimmy made some changes to them | 18:11 |
| aprice | mrhillsman: does the list of all of the approved criteria live somewhere? Iirc, they will be coming from various sources | 18:12 |
| aprice | Asking Jimmy right now - he is having tech trouble joining | 18:12 |
| aprice | Hi. Jimmy here. | 18:13 |
| aprice | Unless the voting criteria has changed we shouldn't need to change anything. | 18:13 |
| aprice | As far as I know there haven't been any changes to the AUC requirements. | 18:14 |
| aprice | If there are, we will need to modify. | 18:14 |
| mrhillsman | ok, so we need to get a vote done on the criteria update | 18:14 |
| mrhillsman | we can do that via email and writeup new doc | 18:14 |
| spotz | wow allison you've changed.... | 18:14 |
| mrhillsman | #action mrhillsman get vote thread for auc update | 18:15 |
| mrhillsman | #action mrhillsman draft resolution for any changes to auc from vote | 18:15 |
| mrhillsman | anything else on auc update? i think we estimated around at least 500 more eligible folks | 18:16 |
| mrhillsman | so we should probably definitely get them involved in the election :) | 18:16 |
| spotz | I think there's a lot more new folks doing SU articles as well | 18:17 |
| aprice | ++ | 18:17 |
| mrhillsman | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-user-committee-session | 18:17 |
| mrhillsman | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/UC-Rocky-PTG | 18:18 |
| mrhillsman | we discussed the criteria in at least both of those sessions | 18:18 |
| mrhillsman | will add to the email thread for review so we know what we are voting on | 18:18 |
| spotz | And I think my first meeting on the UC | 18:18 |
| mrhillsman | anything else? | 18:18 |
| spotz | nope | 18:19 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Upcoming Election | 18:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Upcoming Election (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:19 | |
| mrhillsman | i would say we def need election officials | 18:20 |
| mrhillsman | spotz: want to put the call out and organize that? | 18:20 |
| mrhillsman | i think you are familiar with things | 18:20 |
| spotz | Yeah I can do that | 18:20 |
| mrhillsman | unless you are up for election | 18:20 |
| ianychoi | o/ | 18:20 |
| spotz | nope VW is the only one up for re-election | 18:20 |
| ianychoi | (late joining) | 18:20 |
| spotz | severio already said he wasn't re-running | 18:21 |
| mrhillsman | ok cool | 18:21 |
| mrhillsman | hiya ian | 18:21 |
| spotz | hey | 18:21 |
| mrhillsman | glad you could make it | 18:21 |
| ianychoi | Hi :) | 18:21 |
| mrhillsman | #action spotz wrangle election officials | 18:23 |
| mrhillsman | anyone else interested in pushing a patch to governance-uc repo for election details? | 18:24 |
| mrhillsman | john_studarus josephrsandoval med_ blake ianychoi ... | 18:24 |
| mrhillsman | i can help | 18:25 |
| josephrsandoval | sure | 18:25 |
| ianychoi | mrhillsman, help me :) | 18:25 |
| mrhillsman | joseph beat you to it ian hehe | 18:26 |
| mrhillsman | but i will find one for you | 18:26 |
| mrhillsman | i think there are at least two that have to be done | 18:26 |
| ianychoi | haha :) | 18:26 |
| aprice | Election officials Danny | 18:26 |
| aprice | Haha autocorrect | 18:26 |
| mrhillsman | #action josephrsandoval create election details patch for governance-uc | 18:26 |
| aprice | Election officials cannot run correct? | 18:26 |
| mrhillsman | that's correct | 18:26 |
| spotz | aprice correct | 18:27 |
| aprice | Ok just wanted to make sure everyone knew that :) | 18:27 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 18:27 |
| mrhillsman | spotz not sure if you planned to but would be good to bold and red letter that in the call for officials hehe | 18:27 |
| spotz | And there are 2 seats this time | 18:28 |
| mrhillsman | yep | 18:28 |
| spotz | mrhillsman: I was going to see what was in the letter when I was an official and go from there:) | 18:28 |
| mrhillsman | sounds good to me | 18:28 |
| mrhillsman | if you could copy that to a google doc in that elections folder that would be great too | 18:28 |
| mrhillsman | i'll ask everyone if we should put that on the wiki; i think we should but others may disagree :) | 18:29 |
| mrhillsman | i know google docs is troublesome for folks in china at least | 18:29 |
| mrhillsman | anything else on the election? | 18:29 |
| spotz | I could cut and paste the letter into an etherpad and we could then link to it | 18:30 |
| mrhillsman | i was just thinking about putting it in a more official space | 18:31 |
| mrhillsman | governance website seems right, wdyt? | 18:31 |
| spotz | Yeah somewhere it's stable and reachable | 18:31 |
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| mrhillsman | ianychoi have you ever done a gerrit patch before? | 18:32 |
| ianychoi | mrhillsman, yes :) | 18:32 |
| mrhillsman | ah ok cool, then you don't need my help lol | 18:32 |
| spotz | ianychoi has done many patches:) | 18:33 |
| ianychoi | Haha :) spotz I think so many people do more patches than me :) | 18:33 |
| spotz | :) | 18:33 |
| mrhillsman | #info move election documents to governance.o.o/uc | 18:33 |
| mrhillsman | ok, anything else here? | 18:34 |
| spotz | not from me | 18:34 |
| spotz | Oh do we have dates for the election? | 18:34 |
| mrhillsman | leong made some suggestions i have not looked | 18:34 |
| spotz | k, might need them for the letter | 18:35 |
| mrhillsman | i will reply to the existing thread with his suggestions | 18:35 |
| spotz | ok | 18:35 |
| spotz | I'm done:) | 18:35 |
| mrhillsman | anyone else? | 18:35 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Meetup groups/groups.openstack | 18:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Meetup groups/groups.openstack (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:35 | |
| mrhillsman | i think this was maybe for you aprice or ashferg/ashlee ? | 18:36 |
| mrhillsman | i guess if there was any news from meetup.com interaction | 18:36 |
| aprice | Yeah, we wanted to provide an update on Meetup Pro | 18:36 |
| mrhillsman | i don't remember unfortunately | 18:36 |
| mrhillsman | ok great | 18:36 |
| aprice | We are getting a master account where all of the other Meetup groups can attach to ours | 18:37 |
| aprice | So we can cover the costs and also see when groups go inactive | 18:37 |
| ianychoi | Great :) | 18:37 |
| mrhillsman | nice | 18:37 |
| aprice | We are planning to pilot it and get the existing meetups connected and then can see where there may be gaps in terms of what we get from Meetup.com | 18:37 |
| aprice | It's a WIP but moving along :) | 18:38 |
| aprice | We are hoping to do another community meeting soon to provide a larger update | 18:38 |
| ianychoi | I just want to ask UC or other user groups: which kind of methods would be the best to visualize event information on https://groups.openstack.org/groups/korea or other locations from the info, for example, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStackKoreaUserGroup-meetings ? | 18:38 |
| ianychoi | meetup would be also good :) | 18:39 |
| aprice | I would love to standardize on Meetup if possible:) | 18:39 |
| spotz | :) | 18:40 |
| aprice | but i think that if there are gaps in what they can / cannot provide, we can continue to evolve | 18:40 |
| mrhillsman | yeah i think what we discussed during vancouver made since; not everyone has meetup | 18:41 |
| spotz | I think those will be revealed as folks use it | 18:41 |
| mrhillsman | but where we can makes sense to standardize on it | 18:41 |
| aprice | yeah - and some folks will continue to use Facebook, but we can work with them 1:1 | 18:41 |
| mrhillsman | that will at least offer something for new groups and those already using meetup | 18:42 |
| mrhillsman | and hopefully covers most of the use cases | 18:42 |
| mrhillsman | i think for the broader community getting some type of data out of these tools would be great | 18:42 |
| aprice | exactly - and we will have a master page that pulls upcoming meetups for all of the associated groups | 18:43 |
| aprice | so we will have a source of truth that we can point to | 18:43 |
| mrhillsman | i was not aware of the groups.o.o data mentioned during vancouver - i think some 80k folks - so it would be interesting to see what kind of interactions we can get from it | 18:43 |
| spotz | And then can tie that in to o.o | 18:43 |
| aprice | exactly | 18:43 |
| mrhillsman | great to hear things are moving along | 18:44 |
| aprice | yep - hope to have more updates in the upcoming weeks | 18:44 |
| aprice | and ideally, an account in motion soon. | 18:44 |
| ianychoi | There are many kind of things - meetup, groups.o.o, Fb, and so on. What we agree might be 1) how to aggregate all the information as much as possible and 2) how to be more accustomed with the target tool | 18:45 |
| mrhillsman | is there anything we can do with groups.o.o or have you all talked with marton about the meetup stuff? i think one of his concerns was with all the data points available at groups.o.o not being available elsewhere potentially | 18:45 |
| ianychoi | For 1) I hope that meetup pro would resolve and provider better top-down view on global users | 18:45 |
| ianychoi | For 2) I want to more follow functionalities in groups.o.o but I could not follow some hidden functionalities... | 18:46 |
| aprice | yeah, Lauren spoke to him about groups.o.o at the OSD Budapest. I think that he said he was willing to see what all we could pull from meetup pro and hten we can figure out where some of those holes may be. | 18:46 |
| mrhillsman | great, that is exactly what i was thinking | 18:46 |
| aprice | ianychoi: i agree, and i think that meetup.com would be able to grant functionalities whereas groups.o.o was a little more difficult to gain access to the data. | 18:47 |
| spotz | 13 minutes! | 18:47 |
| mrhillsman | with that happening maybe meetup.com would be willing to expose some more data they did not think of before | 18:47 |
| aprice | yeah and im curious because CNCF has a similar setup | 18:48 |
| mrhillsman | yes indeed spotz | 18:48 |
| aprice | +1 | 18:48 |
| mrhillsman | any other thoughts/concerns here? | 18:48 |
| ianychoi | Yep.. CNCF has similar setup +1 :) | 18:49 |
| aprice | none from me :) | 18:49 |
| ianychoi | Nope also from me | 18:50 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Other Business | 18:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Other Business (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:50 | |
| spotz | Ok I got one thing:) | 18:50 |
| aprice | ill go after spotz :) | 18:50 |
| spotz | Rico from self-healing SiG reached out about getting questions added to the User Survey, I pointed out the types of questions in it to try to give him an idea if that was possibly the best place, mentioned the email Leong was sending out for the Financial group and lastly mentioned the OPs Meetup. No reply yet so this is more an FYI | 18:52 |
| aprice | ok - that actually connects well to my update / proposal :) | 18:53 |
| spotz | hehehe | 18:53 |
| aprice | since this is the first time we are doing an annual survey, we wanted to make sure that the deadline was consistent with last year's cutoff so the 2018 deadline will be extended from August 3 to August 17. | 18:54 |
| aprice | That being said, I was thinking that since all of the UC was attending the PTG, it would be good to have a meeting to review the existing survey questions in person and get any feedback on what may change | 18:54 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 18:55 |
| aprice | like i have said before, we try not to make too many updates, especially since it will impact YoY comparisons and the translation work, but I think that it would be a good use of time | 18:55 |
| spotz | ++ Got my hotel just need my flights:) | 18:55 |
| aprice | and can get requests like the one from Rico in person | 18:55 |
| aprice | awesome! | 18:55 |
| mrhillsman | need to do all the things but plan on being there, ticket already bought :) | 18:55 |
| ianychoi | Good :) I will stay Mon-Tue on upcoming PTG (I cannot stay longer unfortunately) | 18:56 |
| spotz | There was an issue with the MArriott site, KendallW sent me some direct links if it's still an issue | 18:56 |
| spotz | I should be there Sunday through Friday morning | 18:56 |
| mrhillsman | please send to me spotz | 18:57 |
| mrhillsman | i think that was my issue, it kept erroring out or the price was wrong, cannot remember | 18:57 |
| spotz | mrhillsman: Done | 18:58 |
| mrhillsman | thx | 18:58 |
| mrhillsman | glad you will make it ianychoi | 18:58 |
| spotz | I finally got in yesterday, but yeah I tried for days | 18:58 |
| ianychoi | mrhillsman, thanks a lot :) | 18:58 |
| mrhillsman | alright, so we are out of time, good day everyone, see you next week and on email thread(s)! | 18:58 |
| mrhillsman | #endmeeting | 18:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 9 18:59:05 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2018/uc.2018-07-09-18.00.html | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2018/uc.2018-07-09-18.00.txt | 18:59 |
| ianychoi | See u all | 18:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2018/uc.2018-07-09-18.00.log.html | 18:59 |
| mrhillsman | josephrsandoval have you done any patches before? | 18:59 |
| aprice | thanks everyone! | 18:59 |
| mrhillsman | you may not need me for anything either lol | 18:59 |
| ianychoi | josephrsandoval, if you make a patch, please add me as a reviewer :) | 19:00 |
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| spotz | I think it's his first patch unless he's in stackalytics under an alias:) | 19:03 |
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| medberry | john_studarus, yes, I am | 19:10 |
| medberry | well, I'm the EMCEE and speaker. CableLabs is hosting (physically) the OpenStack 8th B-day | 19:11 |
| john_studarus | cool! SF Bay is tomorrow with LA and San Diego next week. | 19:20 |
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