Monday, 2018-07-02

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zioprotohello14:01
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zioprotoI hope this time I managed to get right the meeting time ? :)14:04
spotzYou did:)14:05
VWhola14:06
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zioprotocould anyone post the link with the agenda ?14:08
zioprotostartmeeting uc14:09
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zioprotowhere is the meetbot ?14:09
VWhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee14:09
spotz#startmeeting if14:09
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul  2 14:09:59 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:09
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:10
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'if'14:10
spotz:)14:10
jamesmcarthuro/14:10
spotz#chair spotz Vw zioproto mrhillman14:10
openstackWarning: Nick not in channel: mrhillman14:10
openstackCurrent chairs: Vw mrhillman spotz zioproto14:10
VWwe should endmeeting this and start over.  There's a typo up there14:10
zioprotomeeting name set to if ? this will move the logs of this meeting ?14:10
spotz#endmeeting14:11
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/if/2018/if.2018-07-02-14.09.txt14:11
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spotz#startmeeting uc14:11
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul  2 14:11:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:11
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:11
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spotz#chair spotz Vw zioproto mrhillman14:11
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openstackCurrent chairs: Vw mrhillman spotz zioproto14:11
spotzThere better14:11
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VWwoo hoo!14:11
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zioprotoI have a question to warm up14:13
spotzOk14:14
zioprotoIIRC we will again have elections for UC members soon ?14:14
zioprotois it every 6 months ? is it August ?14:14
VWcorrect14:14
spotzYeah14:14
VWwe should vote in August14:14
zioprotoOK. Thanks for confirming. I would like to announce that I will not be able to run again in the election this time. But I would like to help advertising the election to make sure the community is involved and we have enough candidates. :)14:15
spotzI know it got pushed back last time, but I think we should make sure it’s early enough if someone needs to know before PTG/OPS meetup?14:16
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spotz#chair leong spotz zioproto vw14:19
openstackCurrent chairs: Vw leong mrhillman spotz vw zioproto14:19
VWagreed14:19
zioprotoHow the date to vote is defined ? Should we come up now with a date that makes sense with the next events ?14:19
spotzSorry to hear theat Zioproto:(14:19
VWyes, sorry to hear zioproto14:19
VWfwiw - I do intend to re-run14:19
spotzI think it might be in governance, I know the TC stuff was14:19
zioprotoI am also sorry, but I will not be able to allocate time on that in the future, so it makes no sense to run again :) It is better to involve someone with more time ;)14:21
spotzYeah I can understand that14:22
spotzvw you want to actually lead?14:22
VWI can14:23
spotzI just assumed you were:) I only started cause zioproto missed the # in the command:)14:23
VWcool14:23
VWreal quick...14:23
VW#topic roll call14:24
VWo/14:24
zioprotoo/14:24
apriceo/14:24
Leongo/14:24
john_studaruso/14:25
VWawesome!14:26
VW#topic upcoming election14:26
VWlet's get back to that bit shall we14:26
jamesmcarthurO/14:27
zioprotoIt would make sense to start talking about the election at the upcoming events, so people can think about who to vote, or propose their candidancy14:27
VWyes - and I'm trying to figure out some timing bits for it14:28
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VWI feel like we want to have elections done and folks decided on by mid to late August14:30
mrhillsmanugh I lost track of time14:31
VWno worries14:32
VWyou are just in time, mrhillsman14:32
VWzioproto wisely pointed out we need to start thinking about the next election14:32
VWbut I'm going to play time cop a little - we need to spend no more than about 10 minutes on it right now, so we can make sure our guests like aprice and john_studarus don't have topics they need to cover :)14:33
mrhillsmanyes, we should start announcing actually this month14:33
mrhillsmanI think we can start a thread on what we need to do14:33
mrhillsmanWe have all the stuff we captured from the last one, steps to run election and what not14:33
LeongNot forgetting that many people may take summer vacation:)14:34
spotzo/ late for rollcall:)14:34
spotzVW are you going to run again? So we have an idea if it's 1 or 2 empty seats?14:35
VWwell, technically, there are two seats open regardless :)14:35
VWbut yes, I intend to run again14:35
mrhillsmanalso we have to make sure we involve the right voters based on our auc additions14:36
VWindeed14:37
mrhillsmanI can start the thread today14:37
Leong+1 mrhillsman14:38
spotzvw Well yeah cause you need to be revoted in but it gives us an idea of where we stand:)14:39
jamesmca_Before elections start, need to make sure we understand new AUC criteria.14:39
jamesmca_I'm not sure if all of the positions we discussed at the PTG were voted on.14:40
spotzjamesmca_: Do we have a way yet for folks to know they're AUC?14:40
jamesmca_spotz: You mean like a list somewhere?14:41
mrhillsmanwe did vote iirc but I will include that in the thread?14:41
spotzjamesmca_: Or we've talked about a badge in the profiles14:41
mrhillsmanwanted to make sure we did not go over the 10 minutes14:41
jamesmca_spotz: We haven't, to my knowledge, determined all of the criteria for an AUC. I think that would be a first step.14:42
VWWell, at a minimum, let's add an agenda item next week to have a formal vote on any remaining AUC items14:42
mrhillsmanor we of course can continue to discuss here after meeting14:42
VWthat too!14:42
VWbut we should leave room in the next meeting for any official actions related to it14:42
mrhillsmanI'd hate for us to wait too long for getting this moving14:42
spotzjamesmca_: Okie14:42
mrhillsmanWe can always vote any time ;)14:43
mrhillsmanas long as we document appropriately14:43
VWthat's true too14:43
VWok last call - any more election related things right now?14:44
spotzLet's see it Jimmy and aprice have anything to discuss then circle back?14:44
VW#topic other business14:44
jamesmca_spotz: Nothing else for me.14:44
VWjamesmca_ aprice john_studarus - anything else we need to discuss?14:44
apricenothing from me - the user survey is open for one more month, so I definitely want to make sure we are continuing to encourage folks to take it14:45
VWagreed14:45
VWalso, be sure to pass around the link to the mini-survey for the Ops mid-cycle.  We are trying to wrap that up too14:45
apricewe got great traction from the openinfra days in china & korea (over 100 completed), but there are still several obvious users who have not taken it14:45
VWChris sent a reminder to the Ops list today14:45
spotzAnd a reminder for the ops meetup hit the list just now too14:46
Leongaprice: I have send the message to PRC channels for the user survey14:46
spotzI was typing that!:)14:46
apriceleong: thanks!~14:46
VWthat's awsome aprice14:46
VWyeah - we should tweet/email folks as UC members about the survey14:46
aprice+114:46
apricei will see if the OpenStack handle can tweet a reminder today so that yall can RT and add something14:47
mrhillsman++14:47
spotz+1, that's what I've been doing a lot, plus an occasional one14:47
apricethat's all from me :)14:48
LeongBtw, any issues with the invitation letter for financial Team?14:48
VWI didn't see any at first pass Leong, but will try to re-read it14:48
mrhillsmanlooked good to me14:50
john_studarusOh real quick14:50
zioprotoLeong: LGTM14:50
mrhillsmani believe i commented to the same via the thread14:50
john_studarusId love to see some progress on groups.openstack.org14:50
john_studarusWe are still suffering from a good way to track all the groups and organizers...14:51
LeongFor the Financial Team, we also need more participation from the rest of the world.. if anyone know who is interested to join or help to promote, that will be great!14:51
apricejohn_studarus: ashferg has been working with Meetup.com to set up a Meetup Pro account14:51
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Leongmrhillsman: yes thanks and also aprice14:52
apricewe are hoping to make progress this week so that we can have something to share with the ambassadors in the next week or so14:52
john_studarusWhen should groups hear the birthday funding status?14:52
apricethen roll out to the community members who are interested in a wider community meeting. Lauren discussed this with Marton who manages the Groups Portal so we can test this out to see if it's better14:53
ashfergWe’ll be transferring the funds starting today14:53
LeongPDX meetup is coming week Jul 9th14:53
mrhillsmani think the only issue mentioned regarding meetup vs groups was the actual information that could be captured since meetup's api is a bit lacking14:53
mrhillsmanbut not sure they have improved on it or what their plans are14:54
mrhillsmanthat could maybe be something to ask meetup about too14:54
mrhillsmanmaybe openstack community can help them see a new use case14:54
john_studarusA report on the total groups funded would be appreciated so I can follow up with those organizers14:54
apricemrhillsman: yeah, that's a great idea.14:55
john_studarusId like to keep the momentum going with each group after their July birthday meetup14:55
VWdo we want to spend some time on groups.openstack next week?14:55
VWor user groups in general14:55
VWtrying to get an agenda going now before it slips our minds14:55
mrhillsmanwe should def put on agenda14:55
mrhillsmanalso if you would be so kind to add wg/team/sig review14:56
mrhillsmanwg/team specifically14:56
spotzMight not be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure Auston group is now dead, I think Arkady mentioned that Brent wasn't involved anymore but could be wrong on that14:56
zioprotosound good to me14:56
zioprotoLets understand how to cope with these groups once the organizer disappears14:57
mrhillsman#action mrhillsman start thread re election handling14:57
mrhillsman++ zioproto14:57
mrhillsmani would expect ambassadors to have that under wraps though14:57
spotzI do think we should try to do something ourselves in regards to the OpenStack b-day in Austin/SA kinda sad if the home doesn't celebrate14:58
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VWok - roughed out agenda14:59
jamesmca_technically, we're not considered the home office :)14:59
VW#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee#Meeting_Agenda.2FPrevious_Meeting_Logs14:59
mrhillsmanwe are at time ;)14:59
zioprotoI will have to leave sharp at 17:00 to another appointment. Bye bye ! :)14:59
mrhillsmanttyl zioproto14:59
spotzWell besides the foundation Rackspace is in the area. Just sad:(14:59
spotzSeeya zioproto!14:59
mrhillsmani'll be around for another hour15:00
VWI'll be online till 2ish CDT15:01
VWbut have a few meetings15:01
mrhillsmansame15:01
jamesmca_spotz: perhaps the Austin and SA groups can meet up for a birthday tube in New Braunfels15:01
spotzjamesmca_: Works for me, I'll even cook out!15:01
spotzI'm about just ping if I don't reply, but that's a given I get distracted:)15:02
VWawesome, then I think I'll close this out officially since we are two minutes over ?15:02
VW#endmeeting15:03
VWhmmm...15:03
spotz#endmeeting15:03
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Jul  2 15:03:56 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:03
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spotz:)15:04
VWah - was added as Vw to the chairs15:04
VWbet that messed it up15:04
spotzWeird it let you type other commands though15:04
mrhillsmani'll send the thread out shortly on election stuff15:19
spotzk15:33
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med_ah, two hours late. Nevermind.16:09
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