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| zioproto | hello all | 11:43 |
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| zioproto | what time is our meeting today ? :) | 11:43 |
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| VW | Ok - making sure I've got my stuff in order. Are we meeting now or later today? | 14:07 |
| VW | we switched to 1st, 3rd, 5th at 1400 and 2nd, 4th at 1800, right? Or is it still every other one | 14:08 |
| VW | also, we have neglected - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee. I don't mind roughing out the next couple, but now I'm confused on times :\ | 14:09 |
| zioproto | I am here in case it is now | 14:09 |
| zioproto | if it is later I will not be able to join | 14:10 |
| VW | mrhillsman: you lurking about | 14:10 |
| mrhillsman | :) | 14:10 |
| VW | we are supposed to meet now, right? | 14:11 |
| mrhillsman | 1800 | 14:11 |
| mrhillsman | it is an even week | 14:11 |
| VW | oh, so we are still doing odd/even | 14:11 |
| VW | sorry | 14:11 |
| VW | I thought we had changed that | 14:11 |
| mrhillsman | we discussed but never decided iirc | 14:12 |
| mrhillsman | we did meet last week at 1400 | 14:12 |
| mrhillsman | "meet" :) | 14:12 |
| mrhillsman | i was about to hit send on reminder email | 14:14 |
| VW | cool | 14:14 |
| VW | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee#Meeting_Agenda.2FPrevious_Meeting_Logs | 14:14 |
| VW | look reasonable? | 14:14 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 14:14 |
| mrhillsman | we can bring up the meeting e/o issue at the end | 14:15 |
| spotz | I had it as now too, cause I was just flip flopping every week | 14:15 |
| spotz | I won't be able to make 18:00 today if it's 1 CST which I think it is | 14:16 |
| mrhillsman | so it sounds like we need to decide on just flip flopping today rather than even/odd? | 14:32 |
| spotz | mrhillsman: I'm not sure if I can tell google odd even:) Well probably with a custom | 14:37 |
| mrhillsman | yeah, has to be two separate calendar events if you want the googles to handle it | 14:38 |
| VW | reminder about the zoom call going on right now with usergroup leaders and abassadors | 15:06 |
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| spotz | VW: Thanks for the reminder, originally couldn't attend this morning | 15:26 |
| VW | jamesmcarthur - do we need to discuss the UC breakfast in the meeting today? | 15:41 |
| jamesmcarthur | Hmm. Let me see if Erin is going to be around. | 15:41 |
| jamesmcarthur | VW: yes, she's in | 15:47 |
| VW | Cool - updated agenda jamesmcarthur | 15:55 |
| spotz | vw jamesmcarthur - Sounds like we're gonna be busy:) | 16:05 |
| VW | yep - buckle up.. | 16:27 |
| mrhillsman | :( | 16:31 |
| mrhillsman | i missed it had to run off | 16:31 |
| mrhillsman | jamesmcarthur did it get recorded? | 16:31 |
| mrhillsman | VW jamesmcarthur if not is there a summary? | 16:32 |
| VW | it was recorded | 16:33 |
| VW | and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ambassador-ug-community-update | 16:33 |
| mrhillsman | sweet | 16:33 |
| mrhillsman | will wait for the recording to watch | 16:33 |
| mrhillsman | reading over etherpad | 16:34 |
| spotz | mrhillsman: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ambassador-ug-community-update | 16:35 |
| spotz | shoot I'm slow:) | 16:35 |
| mrhillsman | hehe | 16:36 |
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| spotz | I might need another happy hour after today, my course release went from 11 am to 1 pm and it's a live stream:( Plus all the meetings | 16:38 |
| jamesmcarthur | Yeah, we'll be providing the recording shortly. | 16:41 |
| mrhillsman | thx | 16:42 |
| mrhillsman | i'll add my .02 to the etherpad once i give it a watch | 16:42 |
| spotz | And I think the second one is 5 CST? | 16:43 |
| jamesmcarthur | Yes, spotz: is right :) Next one at 5 | 16:51 |
| mrhillsman | sweet | 16:51 |
| mrhillsman | calendar marked, i only had the 10am one | 16:52 |
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| jamesmcarthur | o/ | 17:04 |
| ashferg | o/ | 17:04 |
| aprice | o/ | 17:04 |
| spotz | hey | 17:18 |
| jamesmcarthur | sorry, we were all early | 17:18 |
| jamesmcarthur | VW: can we also add Working Groups/BoF selection to the agenda? | 17:19 |
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| spotz | early is good:) | 17:21 |
| spotz | I'll try to keep an eye on the meeting, will comment if possible | 17:26 |
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| spotz | aprice ashferg - Any announcements we want to make while I'm doing this livestream? I was going to point out the Queens release in Feb and Summit coming up? | 17:43 |
| aprice | spotz: which livestream are you referring to? We can definitely share things that would be great to discuss | 17:44 |
| spotz | From work revealing my new course | 17:44 |
| aprice | ah, sorry needed to scroll back :) | 17:45 |
| spotz | Should have asked you guys on Friday:( | 17:45 |
| aprice | spotz: I think that Queens and the Summit would be good. I would also mention that we are going to be opening the User Survey soon. | 17:46 |
| ashferg | none from me. thanks for checking! | 17:46 |
| aprice | One other piece would be the edge computing whitepaper that was collaboratively developed earlier this year - we are actually publishing a version in Chinese this week | 17:46 |
| spotz | aprice: Ok will mention the survey. I need to re-enter my deployments to finish reviewing it | 17:46 |
| aprice | spotz: awesome - I was also planning to bring that up during the meeting | 17:47 |
| spotz | :) | 17:48 |
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| mrhillsman | o/ | 18:00 |
| aprice | o/ | 18:00 |
| mrhillsman | #startmeeting | 18:00 |
| openstack | mrhillsman: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 18:00 |
| mrhillsman | whoops | 18:00 |
| spotz | hehe | 18:00 |
| mrhillsman | #startmeeting uc | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 9 18:00:46 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mrhillsman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 18:00 |
| mrhillsman | #chair spotz VW zioproto | 18:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VW mrhillsman spotz zioproto | 18:00 |
| spotz | Sorta here:) | 18:01 |
| VW | o/ | 18:01 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Roll Call | 18:01 |
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| aprice | o/ | 18:01 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 18:01 |
| mrhillsman | will give a few more minutes for others | 18:02 |
| ashferg | o/ | 18:02 |
| aprice | jimmy is running a little late, but will join shortly | 18:02 |
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| jamesmca_ | o/ | 18:04 |
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| leong | o/ | 18:04 |
| mrhillsman | #chair leong | 18:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VW leong mrhillsman spotz zioproto | 18:05 |
| mrhillsman | well let's get to it :) | 18:05 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Ops mid-cycle / PTG co-location | 18:05 |
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| VW | Seems we got this approved | 18:05 |
| VW | wasn't sure if there were any next steps we needed to discuss | 18:06 |
| mrhillsman | so on the ML i think it was pretty clear we should move forward | 18:06 |
| mrhillsman | yeah | 18:06 |
| spotz | And we met the deadline | 18:06 |
| jamesmca_ | We will be sending out a survey about room allocation, I believe. | 18:06 |
| mrhillsman | wanted to open it up to jamesmcarthur jamesmca_ | 18:06 |
| mrhillsman | not sure who you are lol | 18:06 |
| jamesmca_ | I have many names. | 18:06 |
| spotz | heheh | 18:06 |
| jamesmca_ | We will be sending out a survey to the devs and a separate one to operators. | 18:07 |
| mrhillsman | was there anything else we should be mindful of | 18:07 |
| jamesmca_ | Since the needs are slightly different. | 18:07 |
| leong | any idea on the location? | 18:07 |
| jamesmca_ | Not at the moment mrhillsman: Just stand by for communications from the events team. | 18:07 |
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| jamesmca_ | We will be announcing the location mid to late next week. | 18:08 |
| spotz | bah!:) | 18:08 |
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| jamesmca_ | it's a lie. i haven't left. | 18:09 |
| mrhillsman | cool | 18:09 |
| mrhillsman | anything else here from anyone? | 18:09 |
| jamesmca_ | Thanks for all the effort everyone put into getting the Ops Meetup co-located. I think it's going to be a big success :) | 18:10 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 18:11 |
| leong | _+1 | 18:11 |
| spotz | +1 | 18:12 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Vancouver Events | 18:12 |
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| VW | looks like our calendars are filling up that week | 18:13 |
| leong | unfortunately i don't think my travel document will be approved prior to May | 18:13 |
| jamesmca_ | oh no leong: ! | 18:14 |
| aprice | leong: oh no! | 18:14 |
| spotz | :( | 18:14 |
| leong | well..i can leave the country and just cannot re-entry USA without the travel doc :-) | 18:14 |
| jamesmca_ | So the main things of interest for the UC, aside from general forum sessions, is the Ambassador Forum session and the Breakfast. | 18:16 |
| jamesmca_ | Plan is to have the Breakfast on Thursday morning, pending availability. Does that work for everyone? | 18:18 |
| spotz | jamesmca_: We pushed back to Thursday? | 18:18 |
| spotz | I thought we were moving up to Tuesday? | 18:19 |
| aprice | spotz: The breakfast is Tuesday, the Ambassador Forum session is Thursday | 18:19 |
| jamesmca_ | Sorry - yes. | 18:19 |
| jamesmca_ | My error. | 18:19 |
| spotz | :) | 18:19 |
| VW | there was some openness to a meet and greet too | 18:20 |
| jamesmca_ | Yeah, I think we have budget for both, though the alcohol for a meet and greet gets tricky. | 18:21 |
| jamesmca_ | Budget-wise. | 18:21 |
| ashferg | We could also just add extra snacks during the open infra mixer since there will already be drinks there :) | 18:22 |
| spotz | High Tea?:) | 18:22 |
| VW | I, for one, am open to any/all of the above. So, do what ever is fiscally most responsible. As far as I'm concerned, you all have right of first refusal to my week | 18:24 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 18:24 |
| mrhillsman | i only have one commitment for the week so far which is a presentation at opendev | 18:24 |
| spotz | +2 | 18:25 |
| aprice | OK - we will see what the feedback is like at the second ambassador meeting and circle back on what makes the most sense budget wise + feedback wise | 18:25 |
| mrhillsman | sounds good | 18:25 |
| VW | sweet | 18:25 |
| mrhillsman | anything else on this topic? | 18:25 |
| aprice | not from us | 18:25 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Ambassador Calls | 18:26 |
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| VW | this morning's was pretty good | 18:27 |
| VW | I believe it was recorded | 18:27 |
| aprice | +1 | 18:27 |
| VW | also | 18:27 |
| aprice | it was | 18:27 |
| VW | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ambassador-ug-community-update | 18:27 |
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| VW | not completely sure I can make the one this afternoon | 18:27 |
| jamesmca_ | yes, if you want to hear me mangle Ildiko's last name, just listen to the recording. | 18:27 |
| aprice | and mis-advertise when the Berlin Summit is ;) | 18:28 |
| spotz | I should make tonight | 18:28 |
| aprice | we will record that one as well | 18:28 |
| aprice | any questions on the ambassador calls? otherwise, i think we can move on to the next topic | 18:31 |
| leong | i will join the second call | 18:32 |
| aprice | thanks leong! | 18:34 |
| aprice | thanks spotz! | 18:35 |
| jamesmca_ | ok - next topic? | 18:37 |
| spotz | yep | 18:37 |
| VW | yep | 18:37 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Other business | 18:37 |
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| aprice | I can discuss the User Survey | 18:37 |
| VW | so, one thing from this morning's call was a request for an occasional Asia friendly UC meeting | 18:37 |
| VW | but aprice can go first :) | 18:37 |
| aprice | ah, thanks VW :) | 18:37 |
| aprice | I sent around the updated version of the User Survey last week to you all directly. | 18:38 |
| aprice | Please review ASAP and take the survey and fill out any deployments that you may have. Any bugs / concerns / feedback can be shared in that email thread. | 18:38 |
| aprice | We are planning to hand over to the translation team soon so that we can begin that process and should be ready to open in the upcoming weeks. | 18:39 |
| aprice | But any testing from you all is greatly appreciated. I will also reach out to some ops who have been around the survey for a few cycles, like Tim, requesting testing. | 18:39 |
| aprice | I still need to respond to the ML thread around drivers, but otherwise most changes have been implemented. | 18:40 |
| aprice | One concern that thierry raised from the TC that I wanted to flag here.... | 18:40 |
| aprice | was confusion around this question: Which tools are you using to deploy / manage this cluster? | 18:40 |
| aprice | What are yalls thoughts? Do you think it is phrased in a way that is confusing to operators? | 18:40 |
| spotz | I know there's always concerns with openstack-ansible | 18:41 |
| VW | I admit to not having looked yet. are the answers to that question choices or is it opened ended | 18:41 |
| aprice | it is choices | 18:41 |
| aprice | Andy, the PTL of Ansible, is actually happy with how Ansible is represented in that ? now | 18:42 |
| aprice | but yes, it has historically created confusion | 18:42 |
| VW | if the choices are, Puppet, Chef, Ansible, roll-your-own packages, etc | 18:43 |
| VW | then I think it would make sense to me | 18:43 |
| VW | but that is just my $.02 | 18:43 |
| aprice | yes, it's those options plus a few others | 18:44 |
| aprice | ok | 18:44 |
| aprice | that was the main thing that was flagged on our side, but please share any other feedback via email and we will do what we can | 18:45 |
| aprice | that's all from me : ) | 18:45 |
| aprice | well on that topic | 18:45 |
| spotz | hehe | 18:46 |
| aprice | :) | 18:46 |
| jamesmca_ | I have one! Me! Me! | 18:46 |
| mrhillsman | go | 18:46 |
| jamesmca_ | We need to have the final list of Workign Groups that will want space at the Forum. | 18:46 |
| jamesmca_ | Can you all confirm that this is the final list: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/436752/4/reference/working-groups.yaml | 18:47 |
| jamesmca_ | And, additionally, is there a similar list for SIGs and should we assume they will need forum space? | 18:47 |
| mrhillsman | ah, auc and enterprise have been spun down i believe | 18:48 |
| spotz | jamesmca_: I'm going to want a spot for the Diversity WG | 18:48 |
| mrhillsman | leong enterprise spun down? | 18:48 |
| jamesmca_ | My understanding was that yaml file is meant to be the ongoing list of WGs | 18:48 |
| mrhillsman | we need to update that :) | 18:48 |
| mrhillsman | anyone want to get their hands wet doing that? | 18:48 |
| mrhillsman | if not i can, just want to give someone chance to experience change/review/merge | 18:49 |
| VW | I'm willing to try | 18:49 |
| VW | if you can be patient and possible be willing for dumb questions from VW | 18:49 |
| VW | :) | 18:49 |
| mrhillsman | #action VM update the working-groups.yaml | 18:49 |
| spotz | I've got plenty of experience but can if needed | 18:49 |
| mrhillsman | we are here ^ | 18:49 |
| mrhillsman | VW feel free to ask as many questions as you like | 18:49 |
| jamesmca_ | you go, VM! | 18:49 |
| jamesmca_ | Vatt Man Winkle | 18:50 |
| spotz | And if you need help getting set up yell | 18:50 |
| mrhillsman | lol | 18:50 |
| jamesmca_ | VW: when you have it updated, will you ping me? | 18:50 |
| jamesmca_ | We need to send out comms to those groups ASAP. | 18:50 |
| jamesmca_ | Also, re: SIGs and Teams - anyone else we should be including? | 18:51 |
| mrhillsman | Finance Team | 18:51 |
| mrhillsman | all SIGs | 18:51 |
| VW | will do | 18:51 |
| mrhillsman | sigs have a yaml too, sec | 18:51 |
| mrhillsman | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance-sigs/tree/sigs.yaml | 18:51 |
| spotz | WoO was going to put in for a forum spot but no updates on that | 18:51 |
| mrhillsman | uc wgs - http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance-uc/tree/reference/working-groups.yaml | 18:52 |
| spotz | I lead the homeless groups in OpenStack, not TC or UC:) | 18:52 |
| mrhillsman | uc teams - http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance-uc/tree/reference/teams.yaml | 18:52 |
| jamesmca_ | awesome, thanks mrhillsman: | 18:52 |
| mrhillsman | definitely some crossed up groups there i am sure like api wg and api sig | 18:52 |
| mrhillsman | we should probably sanitize all those before the summit at the latest | 18:53 |
| jamesmca_ | ok - we need them cleaned before then, actually | 18:54 |
| jamesmca_ | because we hvae to communicate with them about space needs | 18:54 |
| jamesmca_ | like this week would be ideal | 18:54 |
| spotz | no pressure VW:) | 18:55 |
| jamesmca_ | it can just be a spreadsheet | 18:55 |
| mrhillsman | would me giv^ work? | 18:55 |
| jamesmca_ | doesn't even have to be these YAMLs | 18:55 |
| jamesmca_ | yes sir | 18:55 |
| mrhillsman | sorry, i was talking unclearly | 18:55 |
| VW | let me try to get the yamls going | 18:55 |
| VW | but if we need to fall back to something else by week's end we can | 18:55 |
| mrhillsman | i can pull those into a spreadsheet for you and remove duplicates | 18:56 |
| mrhillsman | for the comms | 18:56 |
| mrhillsman | for the community we need to clean them up | 18:56 |
| jamesmca_ | ++ | 18:57 |
| mrhillsman | welp, we are just about at time? | 18:58 |
| mrhillsman | any last second musings? | 18:58 |
| jamesmca_ | I think VW had something? | 18:58 |
| jamesmca_ | sorry to take your space VM | 18:58 |
| VW | just that the asia folks asked if at least quarterly, we could have a friendly time slot for them for this meeting | 18:59 |
| mrhillsman | apac friendly time | 18:59 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 18:59 |
| VW | I'll put it on agenda for next week | 18:59 |
| mrhillsman | awesome, thx VW | 18:59 |
| VW | have to run to an in person meeting | 18:59 |
| VW | thanks, all | 18:59 |
| mrhillsman | #endmeeting | 18:59 |
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| aprice | Also for next week - jamesmca_ and I would like to discuss user feedback we have been getting in 1:1 calls | 18:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 9 18:59:50 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2018/uc.2018-04-09-18.00.html | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2018/uc.2018-04-09-18.00.txt | 18:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2018/uc.2018-04-09-18.00.log.html | 18:59 |
| mrhillsman | will get that on there aprice | 19:00 |
| spotz | Thanks, for those interested head over to #openstack-diversity:) | 19:00 |
| mrhillsman | thx everyone! | 19:00 |
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| aprice | thanks mrhillsman! | 19:00 |
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| VW | so, mrhillsman, spotz - LCOO and Fault-genes (maybe) are the only two uc-working groups left? | 20:36 |
| VW | ignore that | 20:37 |
| spotz | I remember in Sydney. Product changed to SIG and enterprise closed down? | 20:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Van Winkle proposed openstack/governance-uc master: Subject: Remove inactive working groups https://review.openstack.org/559841 | 21:05 |
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| spotz | Be on zoom as fast as I can, on another call | 22:10 |
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