Monday, 2018-01-22

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VWhey folks18:00
VWlet me fire up the engines here18:01
mrhillsmano/18:02
VW#startmeeting uc18:02
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan 22 18:02:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:02
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VW#chair mrhillsman18:02
openstackCurrent chairs: VW mrhillsman18:02
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zioprotohello18:02
VWas a reminder, the agenda is published here:18:04
VW#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee18:04
VW#chair zioproto18:04
openstackCurrent chairs: VW mrhillsman zioproto18:04
VW#topic Roll Call18:04
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mrhillsmano/18:04
VWbesides, mrhillsman, zioproto and myself, who's here18:04
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VW#chair shamail_18:05
openstackCurrent chairs: VW mrhillsman shamail_ zioproto18:05
shamail_Hi18:05
VWok - looks like it's mainly us four :)18:06
VWLet's get rolling, shall we18:06
VW#topic Update on election process18:06
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VWSo, I was behind, but I did get the email out today for election officials18:07
VWwe still need to make and equivalent for this for the election - https://governance.openstack.org/uc/reference/uc-election-aug2017.html18:07
VWpreferably before Next Monday18:07
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mrhillsmani can do that today18:08
VWawesome - thanks mrhillsman18:09
* VW needs to practice updating documentation the git way18:09
mrhillsman;)18:09
VW#action mrhillsman update documentation for Winter 2018 election18:09
mrhillsmani added a few items to the google drive folder as well18:10
mrhillsman#link https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cfXkCE1T1zYJLnkY9Heeupbpebo_Pysx18:10
mrhillsmanactually specific to elections - #link https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15xIfqTxaB7lnhjVa2SO-vIlR_AqRWKD518:11
mrhillsmanfeel free to comment/modify18:11
mrhillsmanshould be accessible by all UC members18:11
mrhillsmanat a minimum18:11
mrhillsmanlet me know of not18:11
mrhillsmans/of/if18:11
VWwill do18:12
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VWShilla already volunteered to help officiate.  And she caught copy/paste date error I had18:12
zioprotoI confirm I can see the documents18:13
zioprotoI opened general notes, it is empty so far18:13
VWI only have read access to the docs18:14
mrhillsmanfixing VW18:15
mrhillsmanzioproto i added general for stuff that does not go under what is currently there18:15
mrhillsmanhope is that it can be filled with stuff that could potentially end up being a standalone doc18:16
mrhillsmanlike the auc implementation details and running an election docs18:16
zioprotook18:16
mrhillsmani created the patches for winter and spring 2018 too18:17
mrhillsmanVW18:17
mrhillsmaneveryone should be able to edit now18:18
mrhillsmanall UC folks that is18:18
zioprotoI guess we are all on Google Docs now right ?18:19
shamailYep18:19
VWI'm good at the openstack_uc_2018 level18:19
VWbut not the Elections folder stuff18:19
mrhillsmanok18:20
mrhillsmanoh18:21
VWSo, we should probably go ahead an pick someone to send out the call for nominations prior to next Monday18:22
VWunless you would like to wait till after our meeting at 14:00 UTC on the 29th18:22
mrhillsmanso i think it is because you do not have a gmail address18:22
mrhillsmanyour @rackspace.com would need to be associated with a gmail address18:23
VWmvanwink@gmail.com18:23
mrhillsmanok cool18:23
mrhillsmanfixing18:23
VWsweet18:23
mrhillsmanok, done18:24
mrhillsmanfolders share differently from files :)18:24
VWperfect - it's all working18:25
VWso, last item on elections for today is the call for nominations (see above)18:25
* mrhillsman feels like i need a course for how to share in google drive18:25
mrhillsmani def think the call should go out asap18:26
mrhillsmani noticed reading through tom's email that he sent notification out in june for august :)18:26
VWoops18:27
mrhillsmanand wanted to bring it up hehe18:27
mrhillsmanyeah, but we have time :)18:27
mrhillsmanand will do better next go around since we have some organization around the process now18:27
mrhillsman#info update running election doc with suggested time frame for sending out emails18:28
zioproto( guys, emergency, kids at home vomiting everywhere, gotta go, read logs later )18:28
mrhillsmanok, ttyl18:28
VWI guess a note to the MLs early this week letting everyone know the dates would be good18:28
mrhillsmanhopefully not too bad18:28
VWand a formal call for nominations next Monday18:28
VWgood luck zioproto18:29
mrhillsman++18:29
shamailI hope kids feel better soon zioproto18:29
VWok - cool.  Let's get the patch up for the election and then we can drop a note18:29
VWwhat lists - Operators, anything else?18:29
VWperfect template - #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2017-January/012530.html18:30
shamail+118:32
mrhillsmanuser-committee openstack-operators and openstack MLs18:32
shamailuser committee & operatorsML18:32
mrhillsmanheck why not openstack-dev too :)18:32
mrhillsmanjust saying, they can run for uc18:32
shamailmrhillsman: good suggestion, +openstack ML18:33
shamailDoes the candidate running have to be an AUC themselves?18:33
VWAlright - looks like Tim is interested in helping as an inspector as well18:33
VWso we may have our two18:33
shamail(was thinking through sending nomination to dev ML… coud a Dev be nominated if not AUC)?18:33
VWhe's asking about what all is involved.  I need to find the right doc to point him at18:33
VWno, must be AUC to be a candidate18:33
VWit's called out in the "running an election" doc18:34
VWpart of what the inspectors/officials should help verify18:34
VWso, we have some work to do.  Anything else we want to discuss related to elections right now?18:36
mrhillsmanshamail good question18:38
mrhillsmanbut do only non-auc folks use openstack-dev?18:38
mrhillsmansome devs may only write a su article, and use openstack-dev, but that would make them an auc - the su article18:39
VWtrue18:40
mrhillsmani just don't think it would hurt as it may catch at least one person hehe18:40
VWwe should catch those folks if we publish the election doc and reference in the call for candidates18:41
shamailmrhillsman: fair point, there are probably AUCs on dev ML that aren’t on UC or ops MLs18:41
mrhillsman++18:42
VWtime check - we have 18 minutes left.  Anything else election related we want to cover18:42
shamailnothing from my end18:43
shamailI’ll let you know how my PTG travel ends up18:43
shamailare both of you there for sure?18:43
VWwell since you mentioned....18:43
VW#topic UC planning at PTG18:43
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VWit is looking like I will be able to make it to the PTG.  Finalizing a couple of details on my end and confirming with Jimmy what days would be most useful to be around18:45
VWso, you most likely won't be by yourself mrhillsman :)18:45
shamailNice, congrats VW18:45
VWThe foundation helped a lot in making it happen shamail.  You might reach out to Jimmy if you having trouble getting the whole trip covered, etc18:47
mrhillsmanawesome!18:47
mrhillsmanleong will be there as well hoping to get some uc planning done18:47
mrhillsmanalong with jimmy and maybe chris :)18:47
VWand hopefully zioproto can come up for a day or two18:48
shamailThanks for the heads up VW… I applied for travel support so we’ll see how it goes18:48
VWcool18:48
zioprotoI am back, reading the part I missed18:50
VWSo, it sounds like we need to get as many thoughts as we can in https://docs.google.com/document/d/19DhGbvO-WfQKG5MJEUqQ2xfVBFZYjOR8H7JvfQNHUA0/edit18:50
VWsounds like there will be some critical mass to have discussions18:50
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VWWe are running out of time.  I'll go ahead and add this to the agenda again for next week18:53
VW#topic Other Business18:55
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VWbefore we go, anything else anyone wants to discuss18:55
VWmrhillsman, zioproto?18:55
zioprotonothing on my side18:56
VWalright - I'll wrap up this meeting then18:58
VWwe have some work to do today/tomorrow on the election18:58
VWplease add anything you feel strongly about to the upcoming agendas18:58
VWotherwise, see you all next week at 14:0018:58
zioprotogood night ! or good day, depending on the timezone18:58
VW#endmeeting18:59
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mrhillsmansorry, had to step away unexpectedly19:03
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