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| zioproto | mrhillsman: ping ?? | 10:37 |
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| zioproto | I am sure we have a meeting today, could anyone confirm where and when ? :) | 10:37 |
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| zioproto | I read the email from Shamail now | 12:06 |
| zioproto | 1400 UTC on this channel | 12:06 |
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| mrhillsman | o/ | 13:36 |
| aprice | o/ | 14:00 |
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| zioproto | hello | 14:06 |
| zioproto | I am here | 14:06 |
| zioproto | we started already ? | 14:06 |
| zioproto | mrhillsman: right channel for the meeting ? | 14:06 |
| zioproto | aprice: hello ? | 14:08 |
| aprice | This is the right channel | 14:09 |
| aprice | The meeting hasn't started yet | 14:09 |
| zioproto | ok ! | 14:09 |
| lsell | I'm also here, was also wondering if we were in the right channel :) | 14:09 |
| mrhillsman | yes, right channel | 14:10 |
| zioproto | who is leading the meeting ? | 14:10 |
| mrhillsman | sorry, had to step away | 14:10 |
| mrhillsman | i can start but we do not have quorum for decisions | 14:11 |
| mrhillsman | #startmeeting uc | 14:11 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 4 14:11:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mrhillsman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:11 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: uc)" | 14:11 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 14:11 |
| mrhillsman | #chair zioproto | 14:11 |
| openstack | Current chairs: mrhillsman zioproto | 14:11 |
| mrhillsman | current agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee#Meeting_Agenda.2FPrevious_Meeting_Logs | 14:12 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Roll Call | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: uc)" | 14:12 | |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 14:12 |
| zioproto | Tom sent us material about the election procedures | 14:13 |
| zioproto | I guess that is under control now, right ? | 14:13 |
| mrhillsman | we can put that at the end | 14:13 |
| mrhillsman | or on next week's agenda | 14:13 |
| mrhillsman | who all is here for UC meeting? | 14:14 |
| mrhillsman | i got you zioproto :) and saw lsell and aprice | 14:14 |
| lsell | yes i'm here | 14:14 |
| mrhillsman | ok, i know it is quite early :) | 14:15 |
| aprice | I am here | 14:15 |
| mrhillsman | so we may have some folks show up later | 14:15 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Review Sydney 5 Take aways | 14:15 |
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| mrhillsman | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2017-November/014550.html | 14:16 |
| mrhillsman | an email was sent out with some items possibly relevant to uc with opportunity to further discuss | 14:16 |
| zioproto | the LTS thing | 14:17 |
| zioproto | after the intial boost of emails | 14:17 |
| zioproto | looks like is now stucked | 14:17 |
| zioproto | I have to feeling this is a topic where flame threads can go on forever | 14:17 |
| zioproto | but there is no actual action after the mailing list discussion | 14:17 |
| mrhillsman | yeah, unfortunately the discussion got broken across MLs | 14:18 |
| mrhillsman | here is the initial discussion #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124308.html | 14:19 |
| mrhillsman | forum etherpad #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYD-forum-upstream-lts-releases | 14:20 |
| mrhillsman | proposal #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LTS-proposal | 14:20 |
| lsell | Forgive me for not being up to date on the thread, but is the UC taking responsibility for setting up this new team and bringing resources to the table? | 14:20 |
| mrhillsman | currently tc is still driving to resolve the proposal | 14:21 |
| mrhillsman | thierry specificall | 14:21 |
| mrhillsman | specifically | 14:21 |
| mrhillsman | and i am keeping up to speed on the discussion | 14:21 |
| mrhillsman | which i would say a little more than a week ago started slowing | 14:22 |
| zioproto | at the end of the etherpad there are some names of people that proposed to be core members | 14:22 |
| zioproto | for the LTS | 14:22 |
| mrhillsman | #action mrhillsman reach out to thierry and dims regarding lts next steps | 14:22 |
| mrhillsman | yep, quite a few folks interested, including some who have already been doing work | 14:22 |
| mrhillsman | and it appears primarily redhat and canonical | 14:23 |
| mrhillsman | huawei is paying close attention but has not jumped in as i believe team is waiting for a bit more direction as there is not a solid lts plan yet and prefer to work upstream if possible | 14:24 |
| mrhillsman | but i will reach out to thierry and dims because they are more informed than me | 14:24 |
| lsell | ok awesome. mrhillsman: thierry and dims will both be in austin for kubecon this week | 14:24 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 14:24 |
| mrhillsman | alright, operator midcycle integration | 14:25 |
| mrhillsman | a ML thread went out re this | 14:25 |
| mrhillsman | appears consensus is co-location is no bueno | 14:25 |
| mrhillsman | the next midcycle is in Tokyo | 14:26 |
| mrhillsman | NTT's Shintaro Mizuno has been leading organizing | 14:26 |
| zioproto | looks like the idea of merging the events in the same location did not work, right ? | 14:27 |
| zioproto | this is what I remember from the IRC meeting logs | 14:27 |
| mrhillsman | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-ops-meetup-2018 | 14:27 |
| mrhillsman | yeah | 14:27 |
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| mrhillsman | i think the focus was so much on that vs trying to reduce travel and sponsor fatigue | 14:27 |
| zioproto | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-11-28-14.01.html | 14:28 |
| VW | hey gang, sorry I'm late | 14:28 |
| zioproto | AGREED: "official co-location" of ops meetups and PTG appears to be at least inefficient and possibly unwelcome | 14:28 |
| mrhillsman | but for now it is a no go | 14:28 |
| lsell | zioproto, yes, that's what mrhillsman said | 14:28 |
| mrhillsman | i think it is still at some point reasonable to circle back around and focus on where money can be saved for one | 14:29 |
| mrhillsman | but more importantly re integration into larger event ecosystem | 14:29 |
| mrhillsman | shintaro is taking a good step with the agenda provided earlier - #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-ops-meetup-2018 | 14:29 |
| mrhillsman | just in case :) | 14:29 |
| mrhillsman | so keep the current structure with general sessions | 14:30 |
| mrhillsman | and add on enterprise and nfv focus | 14:30 |
| mrhillsman | goal is to get some specific actionable items for those two areas to feedback into the community | 14:30 |
| VW | e.g. - forum session submissions :) | 14:31 |
| mrhillsman | previously we may have been trying to do that for too many sessions | 14:31 |
| mrhillsman | ++ VW | 14:31 |
| mrhillsman | or too many areas | 14:31 |
| mrhillsman | any other comments here? | 14:32 |
| VW | none from me | 14:32 |
| mrhillsman | if anyone has folks involved/concerned with enterprise and/or nfv, session submission for the midcycle is open | 14:32 |
| mrhillsman | ok | 14:32 |
| mrhillsman | 3 tied to 2 (ops midcycle) :) | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | pretty self-explanatory | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | 4 - i can reach out to doug re vision casting exercise | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | #chair VW | 14:33 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VW mrhillsman zioproto | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | sorry :) | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | do we think that is useful exercise? | 14:34 |
| mrhillsman | he did it with the docs team during the denver PTG | 14:34 |
| mrhillsman | it would be difficult to have everyone at an event to do this, unless we do like TC and spend joint meeting time | 14:35 |
| mrhillsman | but since there are only a handful of us doug mentioned using video conference | 14:35 |
| mrhillsman | #action email uc regarding vision casting exercise | 14:36 |
| mrhillsman | bah | 14:36 |
| mrhillsman | VW or zioproto want to ^ | 14:36 |
| zioproto | I am not sure I understood the question | 14:37 |
| zioproto | what is the "casting exercise" | 14:37 |
| zioproto | ? | 14:37 |
| mrhillsman | did you see the "how we see the community in 2019" thread from the TC? | 14:37 |
| zioproto | no I did not | 14:37 |
| zioproto | from Colette ? | 14:38 |
| zioproto | I have to read it still | 14:38 |
| mrhillsman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453262/ | 14:38 |
| mrhillsman | so uc going through a similar exercise | 14:39 |
| mrhillsman | well, the same | 14:40 |
| mrhillsman | we can discuss via email :) | 14:40 |
| mrhillsman | or more later | 14:40 |
| VW | yeah - let's spend some time discussing over email, etc. Maybe target next week to assign someone to kick off the process | 14:41 |
| mrhillsman | #info discuss uc vision exercise via email; maybe target next week to have someone kick off the process | 14:42 |
| mrhillsman | 5 and 6 are tied together as well | 14:42 |
| mrhillsman | heard in china meetup as well as during forum a way to recognize non-developer contributions easily | 14:42 |
| mrhillsman | like stackalytics (however you feel about the tool :)) | 14:43 |
| mrhillsman | but easily parsed tool basically | 14:43 |
| mrhillsman | david medberry took action to talk with jimmy | 14:44 |
| mrhillsman | not sure of status | 14:44 |
| VW | me either, but I'll be in a meeting with him tomorrow | 14:44 |
| VW | so I'll try and ping him on a side channel and touch base | 14:44 |
| lsell | I sent the google doc you're working on to Mike Perez and Ildiko Vansca because they both work on stats for the community, and Ildiko is specifically on the board of a new project called CHAOSS which is trying to come up with more standard metrics and tracking across all open source projects | 14:44 |
| mrhillsman | awesome | 14:44 |
| VW | ooh - fancy | 14:44 |
| lsell | As far as Foundation web resources, we're just getting started on 2018 priorities and frankly have quite a bit in the queue | 14:44 |
| mrhillsman | #action VW to check with med_ on usalytics hehe | 14:45 |
| mrhillsman | awesome, thx lsell | 14:45 |
| lsell | So we just need better understanding of the scope, the data inputs, the desired timeline, etc. in order to prioritize the project | 14:45 |
| zioproto | also in the mail from Tom there was an overview of the tools used to understand if one is AUC or ATC | 14:46 |
| zioproto | but I guess David Medberry is not included in the email recipients | 14:46 |
| mrhillsman | yes, i thought the tools Tom setup would be good starting point for data | 14:46 |
| lsell | Yes, and it's a bit manual right now for AUC, because we don't have automated feeds of all of the data sources the AUC group identified | 14:47 |
| mrhillsman | am i right to assume VW you will discuss these details with david as well? | 14:47 |
| zioproto | I got a mail with "AUC - Technical Implementation Details" | 14:47 |
| zioproto | there are actually some scripts | 14:48 |
| mrhillsman | yep | 14:48 |
| zioproto | under https://github.com/openstack/uc-recognition | 14:48 |
| mrhillsman | ok, joint meetings | 14:50 |
| mrhillsman | i think it is just a matter of dropping in | 14:50 |
| mrhillsman | nothing major there | 14:50 |
| lsell | i have to run, ping me if you need anything | 14:50 |
| mrhillsman | i plan to start this week | 14:50 |
| mrhillsman | thx lsell | 14:50 |
| mrhillsman | we have 10 minutes, anything pressing? | 14:51 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Open Discussion | 14:51 |
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| mrhillsman | if not, feel free to drop anything in the channel of course or via the ML | 14:51 |
| mrhillsman | and we can end meeting | 14:51 |
| mrhillsman | alright, thx everyone! | 14:52 |
| mrhillsman | #endmeeting | 14:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 4 14:52:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2017/uc.2017-12-04-14.11.html | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2017/uc.2017-12-04-14.11.txt | 14:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2017/uc.2017-12-04-14.11.log.html | 14:53 |
| zioproto | bye everyone | 14:54 |
| VW | hey mrhillsman - yes - I will discuss with him | 14:55 |
| VW | sorry - focus was pulled away from monitor by something else | 14:56 |
| mrhillsman | no worries, i understand VW | 15:01 |
| mrhillsman | ttyl, make it a great day | 15:01 |
| VW | but I threw a reminder in my calendar with the discussion above to check in with him | 15:01 |
| VW | you too, sir | 15:01 |
| mrhillsman | awesome | 15:01 |
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| shamail_ | Hi | 17:58 |
| shamail_ | ping mrhillsman VW zioproto | 18:01 |
| VW | hello, sir | 18:01 |
| shamail_ | Hi! | 18:01 |
| shamail_ | shall we get started? Anyone here able to chair? I’m mobile currently. | 18:01 |
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| VW | meeting was earlier this morning | 18:02 |
| shamail_ | Haha | 18:02 |
| VW | 14:00 UTC | 18:02 |
| shamail_ | Doh | 18:02 |
| shamail_ | :D | 18:02 |
| shamail_ | Sorry about that, adjusting my calendar entry now. | 18:02 |
| VW | yeah - so, every other week should be then | 18:02 |
| shamail_ | Odd (1400), Even (1600) | 18:03 |
| shamail_ | Will fix it on my end | 18:03 |
| shamail_ | I’ll review the log | 18:03 |
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