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| mrhillsman | i'm here | 15:22 |
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| shamail | hi everyone | 15:24 |
| mrhillsman | hey | 15:24 |
| shamail | Hi mrhillsman, are you going to be at the PTG all week? | 15:24 |
| mrhillsman | yes, except friday | 15:24 |
| mrhillsman | i leave early on friday iirc | 15:24 |
| shamail | Awesome! | 15:24 |
| shamail | Sorry I couldn’t make it :( | 15:24 |
| shamail | Thanks for reppin’ the UC | 15:25 |
| mrhillsman | you know it! | 15:26 |
| mrhillsman | if you would like me to bring anything up during the PTG let me know | 15:26 |
| shamail | Will do, I am looking forward to feedback on the strategic workstreams to help form thoughts on PTG | 15:28 |
| mrhillsman | gotcha | 15:28 |
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| shamail | hi emagana | 15:35 |
| emagana | Hello There! | 15:35 |
| emagana | I already mentioned to Melvin but extending it here, I won't be able to stay today. | 15:36 |
| emagana | I am planing to attend the first hour. | 15:36 |
| emagana | I felt that Lauren should pointed out that there are areas of improvement. The attendance of the Ops IRC meetings is decreasing drastically, we should share that | 15:37 |
| emagana | Otherwise the board will think all is fine. | 15:37 |
| emagana | based on the previous slide where Lauren mentioned that Ops Community was stronger | 15:37 |
| shamail | Makes sense emagana & mrhillsman… | 15:39 |
| mrhillsman | makes sense emagana but wondering if we want to not only share the decrease but provide solutions? | 15:40 |
| mrhillsman | i know we will have a successful midcycle for tokyo which is next year | 15:41 |
| emagana | mrhillsman: I think we should point it out as an area that we will focus. | 15:41 |
| mrhillsman | ok | 15:41 |
| mrhillsman | let me see if there is a good seque on the agenda, or i can bring it up during the time i have for feedback loop? | 15:41 |
| mrhillsman | i can add it to the deck | 15:42 |
| shamail | Looking at the agenda, I think that might be the best area to bring it up @mrhillsman… it’s either that or during the “(15:30) Clarifying and communicating where help is needed” section | 15:43 |
| mrhillsman | agreed | 15:43 |
| emagana | I second! | 15:44 |
| mrhillsman | i will discuss with thierry during the break | 15:44 |
| shamail | sounds good | 15:45 |
| mrhillsman | issue: ops participation decrease in general and we are at inflection point where help is needed to not only stop the decrease but also generate increase | 15:47 |
| mrhillsman | solutions:? | 15:48 |
| mrhillsman | one ask of the ops meetup team is the foundation to handle logistics | 15:48 |
| shamail | mrhillsman: Good summary, one potential next step recommendation (that everyone can help with) is to bring to light common needs that everyone is hearing from openstack operators and then use that list as a guiding post to encourage ops involvement. | 15:49 |
| mrhillsman | looking at opendev, it is exactly what we have been talking of having the ops midcycle look like | 15:49 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 15:49 |
| shamail | I think one reason we have less engagement is that there is no documented need for their help | 15:49 |
| mrhillsman | gotcha | 15:49 |
| mrhillsman | i spoke with lauren friday about a new contributor page mike has been working on and it has a section for users | 15:51 |
| shamail | Nice | 15:51 |
| mrhillsman | she is going to try to attend our next meeting to discuss but if not we can talk further with her via email as she is asking for us to help populate and keep it updated | 15:51 |
| shamail | I think we all know there are challenges that new users are facing that experienced users might’ve already tackled.. it’s a matter of identifying “what pain points do we know about that ops has to overcome?” and then building tools or documentation around them | 15:52 |
| mrhillsman | agreed | 15:52 |
| shamail | mrhillsman: +1 on working with Lauren, thanks for engaging her | 15:53 |
| mrhillsman | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/UnofficialBoardNotes-Sep10-2017 | 15:58 |
| shamail | thanks | 16:00 |
| emagana | Thanks folks for the good ideas, I wanted to be sure that we consider the Ops/User community turning yellow instead of being green! | 16:00 |
| emagana | Obviously not in red! | 16:01 |
| mrhillsman | gotcha, ty sir | 16:01 |
| shamail | emagana: +1 | 16:01 |
| emagana | now, I have to leave. Family is waiting for me.. | 16:02 |
| mrhillsman | ok | 16:02 |
| mrhillsman | thx emagana | 16:02 |
| emagana | I could not take the day off folks... | 16:02 |
| shamail | See ya emagana | 16:03 |
| shamail | The “OpenStack-IaaS” category is misleading because there are sub-categories (workload provisioning, application lifecycle, etc.) that don’t fit that definition | 16:08 |
| mrhillsman | interesting point | 16:32 |
| mrhillsman | i see what you mean though | 16:32 |
| shamail | Yeah, but it’s a great start | 16:33 |
| shamail | Someone just raised the same point | 16:36 |
| shamail | I’ll be back at 11:30A… dropping off to switch locations (while stay on the phone) | 16:38 |
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| shamail | back | 17:10 |
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| shamail | @mrhillsman: I emailed Jonathan but can you also let him know that I am interested in the new WG to discuss related projects and how we would move towards supporting them? | 17:32 |
| mrhillsman | will do | 17:53 |
| shamail | Would this be a good time to mention Feature Triage as well or defer that conversation? | 18:14 |
| mrhillsman | i think we can defer because i do not have any data, sorry | 18:22 |
| mrhillsman | just seeing this | 18:22 |
| mrhillsman | i would have hated to be asked questions i could not answer | 18:22 |
| shamail | I could’ve helped as well | 18:22 |
| shamail | In general, this meeting is hard as a remote attendee since I can’t even unmute myself. | 18:23 |
| shamail | I have to drop off soon but I am sending the feedback to Lauren | 18:23 |
| shamail | Nice work | 18:23 |
| shamail | Catch you later | 18:23 |
| mrhillsman | ok cool | 18:26 |
| mrhillsman | thx shamail | 18:26 |
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| mrhillsman | i spoke with lauren as well about ops midcycle assistance | 18:26 |
| mrhillsman | she is totally onboard | 18:27 |
| mrhillsman | we are going to schedule a meeting for october | 18:27 |
| zioproto | hey there | 19:10 |
| zioproto | mrhillsman: is the in person meeting you have in Denver already happened ? | 19:11 |
| zioproto | tomorrow in our UC meeting I will be in a airport waiting for a flight. I hope I get good Internet connectivity to attend. If you dont see me coming in, you know I am travelling | 19:12 |
| mrhillsman | ok no worries zioproto | 19:29 |
| mrhillsman | the meeting is about to start back up | 19:29 |
| mrhillsman | we are just finishing lunch | 19:29 |
| mrhillsman | do you have the information to join in? | 19:29 |
| zioproto | oh, is it like a videoconference ? | 19:32 |
| zioproto | I am in a airport right now, boarding in about 1 hour. Then 90 minutes flying. Not sure my schedule is compatible tonight | 19:33 |
| mrhillsman | ah ok | 19:33 |
| mrhillsman | webex | 19:33 |
| zioproto | what UTC time exactly ? | 19:33 |
| mrhillsman | no video, just screensharing and audio | 19:33 |
| mrhillsman | and chat hehe | 19:33 |
| mrhillsman | we should have started back by now i want to say | 19:34 |
| mrhillsman | 19:30 UTC | 19:34 |
| mrhillsman | they will probably start calling everyone to order in a few moments | 19:35 |
| zioproto | mrhillsman: give the details to join, I have no idea how to | 19:37 |
| mrhillsman | https://openstack.webex.com/openstack/k2/j.php?MTID=t84e01c894bb956fb69283e941a1de68a | 19:39 |
| mrhillsman | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/10Sep2017BoardMeeting | 19:39 |
| zioproto | I am in ! | 19:40 |
| zioproto | now I have audio | 19:41 |
| zioproto | mrhillsman: my microphone should be mute, is it ? do you heat chatting of airport people around me ? | 19:42 |
| mrhillsman | yeah, it is muted | 19:47 |
| mrhillsman | awesome! | 19:47 |
| mrhillsman | i believe it is by default | 19:47 |
| zioproto | yes I figured it out now. There is somebody talking about the strong relationship between openstack and ansible | 19:48 |
| mrhillsman | yeah, the agenda is on the second link i sent | 19:51 |
| zioproto | is anyone really afraid Ansible is gonna die and we have a problem in openstack ? | 19:55 |
| zioproto | :O | 19:55 |
| zioproto | mrhillsman: who is this guy speaking now ? | 19:56 |
| zioproto | it is hard to follow the audio | 19:56 |
| mrhillsman | steven dake | 19:56 |
| mrhillsman | haha, i think i have to agree that no one may really be concerned about ansible dying | 19:56 |
| mrhillsman | i cannot remember his name but he is from AT&T | 19:57 |
| zioproto | my flight is just 50 minutes late ! :O Looks like I can keep following :) | 20:02 |
| mrhillsman | booo | 20:02 |
| zioproto | this guy making the question is the AT&T guy ? | 20:03 |
| mrhillsman | yes | 20:03 |
| zioproto | this meeting is happening in Denver and you are there in person ? | 20:03 |
| zioproto | I mean, it is at the same location of the PTG ?? | 20:04 |
| zioproto | this makes totally sense! coordination of Openstack and K8s | 20:05 |
| mrhillsman | yep | 20:06 |
| mrhillsman | i am in denver in person at the meeting | 20:06 |
| mrhillsman | different location in terms of the hotel but "colocating" with the ptg | 20:06 |
| zioproto | boarding soon, I am disconnecting | 20:29 |
| zioproto | ciao ! :) | 20:29 |
| mrhillsman | ciao | 20:35 |
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