| mrhillsman | jamemcc you around? | 05:40 |
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| jamemcc | Hi Melvin | 16:48 |
| jamemcc | Looks like UC meeting cancelled for today. Guess we need to get coordinated better. I had added the 1 agenda item that is there on Friday. | 16:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Edgar Magana proposed openstack/governance-uc master: Adding Amy are offcial for UC election https://review.openstack.org/486708 | 17:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Edgar Magana proposed openstack/governance-uc master: Adding Amy as offcial for UC election August 2017 https://review.openstack.org/486708 | 17:47 |
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| mrhillsman | you still around jamemcc | 20:03 |
| jamemcc | Hi | 20:05 |
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| mrhillsman | ugh, firewall is real | 21:07 |
| rockyg | oh, yeah. | 21:27 |
| mrhillsman | i finally have stable connection | 21:35 |
| mrhillsman | "stable" | 21:36 |
| rockyg | How? I use iaccess there for lots, but can't for irc | 21:36 |
| mrhillsman | purevpn | 21:38 |
| mrhillsman | originally i setup openvpn on a digital ocean droplet | 21:39 |
| mrhillsman | and it was working fine | 21:39 |
| mrhillsman | but i guess it got tagged or something idk, it just stopped working, tried another, same | 21:39 |
| mrhillsman | flavio mentioned purevpn and it looks to be working thus far | 21:39 |
| rockyg | cool. Yeah, the govt is cracking down on unregistered vpns | 21:41 |
| mrhillsman | it costs of course but i think i will grab the 2yr plan | 21:41 |
| mrhillsman | i just bought one month to try | 21:42 |
| mrhillsman | there's 7 day trial | 21:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance-uc master: Adding Amy as offcial for UC election August 2017 https://review.openstack.org/486708 | 21:42 |
| rockyg | Ah. Well, with the new rules for ISPs and carriers in the US, youl\'ll want a good one, anyway | 21:42 |
| rockyg | So, you're either up *really* early or *realy* late | 21:43 |
| mrhillsman | true | 21:43 |
| mrhillsman | was up really early | 21:43 |
| mrhillsman | well, i guess i still am, it's 5:43am | 21:43 |
| mrhillsman | i got up around 4 | 21:43 |
| mrhillsman | and fought trying to get on the internet for about an hour or so :) | 21:44 |
| rockyg | So, nap around 1pm? | 21:44 |
| rockyg | They all do that in China. | 21:44 |
| rockyg | At least at Huawei. | 21:44 |
| mrhillsman | hehe | 21:44 |
| mrhillsman | nope, no nap | 21:44 |
| mrhillsman | but i have been able to get to bed before 9 | 21:44 |
| mrhillsman | i normally wake up around 5:30 | 21:44 |
| rockyg | Ouch. One of those "morning" people | 21:45 |
| mrhillsman | mmhmm | 21:45 |
| rockyg | Kids? | 21:45 |
| rockyg | Military training? | 21:45 |
| mrhillsman | one | 21:45 |
| mrhillsman | lol | 21:45 |
| mrhillsman | high school | 21:45 |
| mrhillsman | bus is a bit too far to walk so early with the way things are today | 21:46 |
| mrhillsman | so i drop him off at the stop | 21:46 |
| rockyg | Ah. | 21:46 |
| rockyg | Are you going to Shenzhen after OS Days? | 21:47 |
| mrhillsman | nah, probably after orientation in september | 21:48 |
| mrhillsman | along with lance | 21:48 |
| mrhillsman | and whoever else joins team | 21:48 |
| rockyg | Oh. good choice! | 21:48 |
| rockyg | You going to the PTG? | 21:48 |
| mrhillsman | yep | 21:49 |
| rockyg | Not sure for me yet. I'd have to do it through Quality and Ops. No budget for me on the OSDT | 21:49 |
| mrhillsman | ah ok | 21:50 |
| mrhillsman | i had a chance to talk with chris hoge to really understand interop | 21:50 |
| rockyg | But, if we could get a cross project session on public cloud canonical roles, that could go a long way | 21:50 |
| mrhillsman | is there a thread discussing that already? | 21:50 |
| mrhillsman | i am meeting with folks working the clamping the apps gap and interop | 21:51 |
| mrhillsman | nothing other than that, probably just go to other sessions relevant to those | 21:51 |
| rockyg | no thread yet. Problem with starting that thread is that most developers don't get it, so we need a dev who does to start the thread. I bet Lance does | 21:54 |
| rockyg | Zhipeng does, but is not comfortable yet starting threads. And these devs don't seem to be particularly up on basic design tools like truth tables for permission. | 21:55 |
| rockyg | I've gotten so cynical. | 21:55 |
| rockyg | And, we're in a recorded channel ;-) | 21:55 |
| mrhillsman | yes...yes you have hehe | 21:55 |
| mrhillsman | confession is the first step to recovery :) | 21:56 |
| rockyg | I'm not sure there is a cure for this one. | 21:56 |
| mrhillsman | i think we basically just need to first put up the user story, maybe through product working group dev proposal or what not, and work with Lance or some other folks to round it out | 21:57 |
| mrhillsman | probably not good to simply introduce it at the PTG | 21:57 |
| mrhillsman | like the whole idea of SIGs - get the discussion going between folks not pushing for implementation but dialogue first and then sort out what can/cannot be done later | 21:58 |
| rockyg | We'd need to schedule the session in advance anyway. I can email Lance. I think our PTLs plus you and Zhipeng can flesh a start out, then bring in the Publicl cloud operators. | 21:59 |
| rockyg | User stories don't seem to have *any* traction. | 21:59 |
| mrhillsman | and we do not necessarily need PTLs or Cores but just some developers who understand openstack and can help shaping the convo | 21:59 |
| rockyg | True. | 22:00 |
| rockyg | Lemme talk with Zhipeng about getting a truth table out of the Pub Cld WG with all the archetypes defined. If we start from there, the devs who get it can steer. | 22:01 |
| mrhillsman | yeah, i think that is the key, just ensuring we have a well-rounded discussion from the jump and always push for input from all stakeholders | 22:01 |
| mrhillsman | ok | 22:01 |
| rockyg | cool. If we get the public right, we get the scientific to review and we should have it pretty much in good shape. | 22:02 |
| mrhillsman | ok | 22:03 |
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