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| andreykurilin_ | hi folks! Does anyone is available to consult about telemetry services? | 13:23 |
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| gordc | andreykurilin_: depends how hard the question is. | 13:30 |
| andreykurilin_ | gordc: it should not be hard for such expert like you ;) Actually, I have basic questions. Let's start from "Is there any diagram about relationship between telemetry services?" | 13:32 |
| andreykurilin_ | I do not use telemetry before and I need to setup several alarms for disk,ram utilization at HV. As far as I understand, first of all I need ceilometer-compute-agents to be installed and configured in a proper way(and nova-compute service as well). This agent need to send events somewhere. Here I need to install gnocchi. And finally, as for alarms I need aodh | 13:34 |
| andreykurilin_ | Am I right? | 13:34 |
| jd_ | andreykurilin_: did you check the documentation before asking question? https://docs.openstack.org/ceilometer/latest/contributor/architecture.html :) | 13:35 |
| jd_ | the doc are a bit messy because of how the doc team throw their content at us, but patches welcome :) | 13:35 |
| andreykurilin_ | jd_: I thought I saw this page long time ago, but could find it today, so decided to start disturbing people here:) | 13:36 |
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| danpawlik | Hello, aodh with heat is using trust roles. Does aodh create new trust role each time that it makes some request? | 13:40 |
| andreykurilin_ | jd_ gordc: ok, so as for my use case. Do I need panko to store events? I mean it looks like ceilometer notification agent + gnocchi + aodh should be enough. am I right? | 13:40 |
| danpawlik | im testing it on devstack and I see that after fixing CVE, as a admin user and using admin project, aodh is not adding "trust" to the url | 13:41 |
| gordc | andreykurilin_: if all you need is alarms on utilisation, then you don't need panko | 13:42 |
| jd_ | andreykurilin_: probably not | 13:42 |
| andreykurilin_ | yes, at least for now | 13:42 |
| gordc | danpawlik: i'll be honest, i don't know exactly how the trust works or if it expires. but aodh basically reuses the request token and creates a trust to allow aodh to act as user. | 13:44 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/panko master: remove paas format https://review.openstack.org/527689 | 13:48 |
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| andreykurilin_ | continuing wasting your time: I see metrics for instance cpu/disk/ram, but I do not see anything like this for HV in general. or it should be just an issue for aodh alarm configuration? | 13:51 |
| gordc | jd_: sileht: before i apply hack around global-reqs. we want to keep testing pike against gnocchi master or just cap it to gnocchi4.1? | 13:52 |
| danpawlik | gordc: so maybe I will explain my problem: I would like to update my alarm and after your patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493823/ where you are checking if url has a char "@" e.g.: http://paste.openstack.org/show/628849/ then it fails. My question is: how to stop make a query that URL will contain trust_id:<action>@<host ? | 13:53 |
| danpawlik | gordc: its not a good solution to change in template that it shouldn't use trust+http | 13:54 |
| gordc | danpawlik: when you say 'your patch' you mean "jd_'s patch"? | 13:55 |
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| danpawlik | gordc: ah, sorry. JD_ patch | 13:55 |
| jd_ | gordc: I don't think we should really use master anymore, we should just pip install $LATEST until we need to cap | 13:55 |
| gordc | danpawlik: you mean how to create an alarm without trusts? | 13:56 |
| gordc | jd_: makes sense to me. | 13:56 |
| danpawlik | gordc: I do it using heat, but in heat template I see that there is trust + http. https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/autoscaling.yaml#L130 | 13:57 |
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| gordc | hmm. yeah, i don't know. you can create alarms without trusts but i don't know if heat has a requirement that it use trusts | 13:59 |
| danpawlik | gordc, jd_: main question is: should I change the template because now its creating an alarm like: http://paste.openstack.org/show/628850/ | 13:59 |
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| danpawlik | gordc: IMHO good that we have a patch, but in this case after patching aodh heat templates probably should be changed | 14:00 |
| danpawlik | or? | 14:00 |
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| gordc | err... i've never used heat so i'll be honest and say i'm not the person to ask | 14:02 |
| gordc | not sure if anyone in heat channel knows | 14:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer stable/pike: Exclude keystonemiddleware 4.19.0, force gnocchi install in devstack https://review.openstack.org/526751 | 14:06 |
| jd_ | danpawlik: no idea, you should probably ask on #heat | 14:15 |
| andreykurilin_ | jd_: what about compatibility of latest(let it be pike) versions of ceilometer+aodh+gnocchi with older openstack releases? | 14:16 |
| danpawlik | jd_: I can say that I remove trust+http in heat template where its calling aodh class, and I can update the alarm because alarm_actions doesn't add trustid into the url http://paste.openstack.org/show/628852/ | 14:16 |
| danpawlik | jd_, gordc: so here come the problem: I think heat team will not approve template where we call aodh classes without trust+http so it means that on aodh or aodhclient we need to remove adding trust_id into alarm_actions | 14:17 |
| jd_ | andreykurilin_: what about? what kind of quesiton is this? :) | 14:18 |
| andreykurilin_ | jd_: does it possible to use pike release of telemetry with liberty, for example? Any known issues? | 14:18 |
| jd_ | andreykurilin_: you'll tell me | 14:19 |
| jd_ | I've no idea | 14:19 |
| andreykurilin_ | lol | 14:19 |
| andreykurilin_ | ok and as for pike of telemetry + mitaka of openstack? | 14:19 |
| gordc | andreykurilin_: you'll probably run into issues with shared libraries | 14:19 |
| gordc | all i know is mitaka ceilometer works with gnocchi4.1.1 (with a few tweaks) | 14:20 |
| andreykurilin_ | ok, cool. Can I find anywhere theses tweeks? | 14:22 |
| danpawlik | gordc, jd_: I will add information to the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/aodh/+bug/1737186 | 14:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1737186 in Aodh "Error while updating AODH alarm with trust url" [Undecided,New] | 14:23 |
| gordc | self-plug https://medium.com/@gord.chung/giving-an-old-ceilometer-new-life-8827205d3049 | 14:23 |
| andreykurilin_ | gordc: thanks! awesome | 14:27 |
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| gordc | disclaimer: i provide no guarantees it will work similar on your system. | 14:32 |
| andreykurilin_ | gordc: and returning to metrics and alarms: since I need mostly per-hv info, should I just remove --resource-id from https://docs.openstack.org/aodh/latest/admin/telemetry-alarms.html#threshold-based-alarm or how it can be achived? | 14:32 |
| gordc | what's hv? | 14:32 |
| gordc | hypervisor? host? | 14:33 |
| gordc | you should be able create an alarm that queries on host attribute. | 14:35 |
| danpawlik | gordc, jd_: bug updated | 14:35 |
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| danpawlik | jd_, gordc: can you change Importance please? | 14:36 |
| gordc | danpawlik: i don't understand, you want to create alarm without trust? | 14:36 |
| danpawlik | I try to patch it | 14:36 |
| danpawlik | gordc: no, I want to update existing alarm which has trust in alarm_actions | 14:37 |
| gordc | oh. ok. | 14:37 |
| danpawlik | gordc: hmm, I write that I remove trust+http but I just remove trust from heat template | 14:38 |
| andreykurilin_ | gordc: for hypervisor. At https://docs.openstack.org/ceilometer/latest/admin/telemetry-measurements.html I do not see any disk/ram related metrics for host or hypervisor | 14:39 |
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| andreykurilin_ | gordc: ok. if I decide to go collecd.d way, I need to use openstack/collectd-ceilometer-plugin project. And based on the docs, it is possible to use just collect.d->aodh . without anything other. the thresholds will appear in aodh and I'll able to do alerts. and if i would like to stor historical data, I'll need to add gnochi. right? | 15:23 |
| gordc | andreykurilin_: the openstack/collectd-ceilometer project is obselete. | 15:24 |
| gordc | you should use https://github.com/gnocchixyz/collectd-gnocchi | 15:24 |
| andreykurilin_ | gordc: thanks. I suppose that the README file of openstack/collectd-ceilometer should be updated . I can submit a patch, if you wish. | 15:28 |
| andreykurilin_ | gordc: In case of collectd-gnocchi + gnocchi + aodh, where is a ceilometer standing? I mean it sounds like collectd will do all the work of collecting, so I can launch in whatever old openstack release and use the latest gnocchi and aodh | 15:29 |
| gordc | andreykurilin_: sure, the telemetry team doesn't control that project though so i can't help you merge it | 15:34 |
| andreykurilin_ | oh | 15:35 |
| gordc | andreykurilin_: ceilometer could probably be used to gather data on openstack-specific resources... but the actual host/hardware metering can be done by what collectd supports | 15:35 |
| andreykurilin_ | gordc: but in case of collectd the version of openstack doesn't metter, right? | 15:37 |
| gordc | i don't use aodh so can't comment. the biggest issues will probably be shared libraries used across openstack. that's why i can't say ceilometer y works with openstack x. | 15:37 |
| gordc | andreykurilin_: i imagine yes, collectd should work with whatever version of openstack. | 15:38 |
| gordc | ceilometer pike should in theory work with a signficantly older openstack... but i don't know if its dependencies are compatible | 15:39 |
| andreykurilin_ | but aodh can be installed on separate node, or in container, so the only one place where aodh and gnocchi will connect with OpenStack cluster is Keystone. In theory everything should work | 15:39 |
| gordc | yes, if you are deploying them in containers, you should be good. | 15:39 |
| andreykurilin_ | gordc: maybe, we will try to setup ceilometer pike with older release, but in theory it closely connected to nova's code and have more possible issues whereas collectd should not have any at all | 15:41 |
| andreykurilin_ | gordc: one more last question. Does it possible to configure ceilometer to collect only some metrics ? | 15:42 |
| chandankumar | gordc: please have a look these two review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526862/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526863/ when you are free, Thanks :-) | 15:42 |
| gordc | andreykurilin_: yeah, look at polling.yaml and pipeline.yaml code | 15:43 |
| gordc | s/code/file/ | 15:43 |
| andreykurilin_ | gordc: thanks! | 15:43 |
| gordc | also docs. https://docs.openstack.org/ceilometer/latest/admin/telemetry-data-collection.html | 15:43 |
| gordc | i'm currently fixing them if you want to read that. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/ceilometer+branch:master+topic:collector-docs | 15:44 |
| andreykurilin_ | gordc: looks great! I suppose I have enough information to move from theory to exprimenting. Thanks! | 15:44 |
| gordc | chandankumar: done. (i've no idea what i just +1'd) | 15:45 |
| gordc | np | 15:45 |
| chandankumar | gordc: i was working on tempest plugin split goal, the plan is to move aodh, gnoochi, ceilometer , panko tempest plugins in a single repo and consume it from there | 15:45 |
| chandankumar | currently aodh + panko tempest plugin is merged in ceilometer | 15:46 |
| chandankumar | once we move the ceilometer tests in a repo and add the jobs in place we will move gnocchi tempest tests there | 15:46 |
| gordc | chandankumar: cool cool. yeah i think i saw you doing that last week. i just zone out when it comes to tests.lol | 15:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer stable/ocata: Exclude keystonemiddleware 4.19.0 https://review.openstack.org/526749 | 17:01 |
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| andreykurilin_ | gordc: are you still here? | 17:45 |
| gordc | andreykurilin_: possibly | 17:52 |
| andreykurilin_ | gordc: Is there ability to make alert from different metrics like disk.usage / disk.capacity > 0.7 ? | 17:54 |
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| gordc | andreykurilin_: is that "disk.usage OR disk.capacity is greater than 0.7" or "disk.usage divided by disk.capacity is greater than 0.7" | 17:57 |
| andreykurilin_ | the second one | 17:57 |
| andreykurilin_ | divided | 17:57 |
| gordc | in either case you can express that in gnocchi. | 17:57 |
| gordc | i'd need to check if aodh has the support | 17:57 |
| gordc | sileht: ^ if you know | 17:57 |
| andreykurilin_ | And what are `gnocchi_resources_threshold_rule`, `gnocchi_aggregation_by_metrics_threshold_rule`, and `gnocchi_aggregation_by_resources_threshold_rule` threshold alarms? what is the difference? | 17:58 |
| gordc | lol i hate that we don't have that documented | 17:59 |
| gordc | so i don't believe aodh supports the divide case, only the OR case. | 18:00 |
| gordc | gnocchi_resources_threshold_rule is basically triggering on a single metric (ie. cpu_util of vm1) | 18:02 |
| gordc | gnocchi_aggregation_by_metrics_threshold_rule i believe is aggregating across multiple metrics (ie. cpu_util across vm1,vm2,vm3, etc...) | 18:03 |
| andreykurilin_ | got it | 18:04 |
| andreykurilin_ | np about docs and thank you for help | 18:05 |
| gordc | yeah. sorry. gnocchi docs are better and you can see how to make the divide query you want... it just isn't supported in aodh. iiuc | 18:06 |
| andreykurilin_ | gordc: the last question for today. if I set `--resource-type instance` without specifying `--resource-id`, will it mean that the alart will be applied to all instances | 18:07 |
| andreykurilin_ | ? | 18:07 |
| gordc | yes. you'd have to use --query to filter that down | 18:08 |
| andreykurilin_ | thanks | 18:09 |
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