Friday, 2017-07-28

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openstackgerritShangXiao proposed openstack/aodh master: Update and replace http with https for doc links in aodh  https://review.openstack.org/48830506:30
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openstackgerritShangXiao proposed openstack/ceilometer master: Update and replace http with https for doc links in ceilometer  https://review.openstack.org/48832407:53
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openstackgerritShangXiao proposed openstack/ceilometer master: [Trivialfix]Fix typos in ceilometer  https://review.openstack.org/48837511:02
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/aodh master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/48472011:39
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer master: use gnocchi devstack script  https://review.openstack.org/47436713:00
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer master: deprecated pollster-list  https://review.openstack.org/47898813:00
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer master: stop converting to old message format  https://review.openstack.org/47671513:01
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/panko master: sql: support bigint traits  https://review.openstack.org/48497213:01
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer master: vmware: ignore -1 values  https://review.openstack.org/48265913:01
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fried_ricethorst_ o/17:01
fried_ricethorst_ I'd like you to lead this discussion, cause like I said, I really don't know the history.17:01
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thorst_fried_rice: I first want to read through the release doc and see if we need to bring it up here.17:05
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vkmchey gordc, if you can take a look later... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486157/17:09
vkmcI'm a bit confused on which attributes should I be specifying in each of the files and I keep hitting errors17:09
gordcvkmc: seems like gerrit is down. will take a look17:12
vkmcgordc, thanks17:13
gordcactually. i'm going to go eat first since it's down. brb17:13
gordcbut i think i think your original patch was (close to) correct17:13
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: The Gerrit service on review.openstack.org is being taken offline for roughly 5 minutes to perform a database backup and reconfiguration17:13
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gordcvkmc: so the meters.yaml file is what takes the notification from whatever openstack project (manila in your case) and pulls out specific attributes to form a standard ceilometer sample.17:51
gordcvkmc: so whatever you define there should match whatever manila produces. (using jsonpath)17:52
gordcvkmc: the gnocchi_resources.yaml file is what maps that standard ceilometer sample to gnocchi17:52
gordcin your case, they should be relatively similar since it's a brand new metric you're adding17:53
gordcfor some of the existing pre-gnocchi metrics, they are different between ceilometer previously would just capture everything blindly.17:54
gordcnow, there's some filtering done at meters.yaml and possibly even more filtering done by gnocchi_resources.yaml17:54
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thorst_gordc: Hey - you got a min to sync up on ceilometer-powervm?18:24
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gordcthorst_: sure18:28
gordcwhatsup?18:28
thorst_should be quick I think.18:28
gordcdisclaimer: i haven't followed it for quite some time18:28
thorst_no worries  :-)18:28
thorst_My team just wanted to validate that having ceilometer-powervm separated out of ceilometer itself is still the right approach.  Its working fine for us, but figured it’s been a while and should just validate that its still the right approach.18:28
thorst_the code's been very stable - very very few changes.18:28
edmondswjust keeping things working with new ceilometer releases, I think18:29
thorst_edmondsw: yep18:29
gordcdid we merge something that broke you?18:29
thorst_no, something came up in openstack-meeting about our release cycle stuff18:30
fried_ricegordc That happens occasionally, though extremely rarely.18:30
thorst_we were doing something wrong there...and it kicked off this question18:30
gordci think ideally, you folks can keep managing it. because i know nothing about powervm. and i'm sure that goes for the other two contirbutors18:30
thorst_:-)  fair enough18:31
thorst_we'll work to fix the release mistake we made, which we're planning to do anyway for the other -powervm projects18:31
gordcwhat happened regarding release?18:31
gordci'm not following that either.lol18:31
thorst_we were manually tagging18:32
thorst_we shouldn't have been18:32
gordcwe don't do milestones iirc18:32
gordcoh in your github18:32
thorst_I'll be honest, I didn't follow all of it18:32
thorst_but someone's looking to fix up our process18:32
gordcyeah i think everything under 'openstack' has to go through openstack/releases18:32
thorst_and I took the todo to make sure that ceilometer-powervm being separate is still the right thing to do18:32
gordcthorst_: yeah, i think so.18:33
thorst_rockin18:33
fried_riceThanks gordc18:33
gordcif we moved it to ceilometer repo, it'd slow you down i think since we couldn't give you +A powers...and well there's so few of us, it might be hard to track us down sometimes18:33
thorst_fair enough, though we haven't had too much to do there since the API is pretty stable18:34
edmondswgordc came up here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-meeting/%23openstack-meeting.2017-07-28.log.html#t2017-07-28T15:27:4918:34
gordcgood to know i didn't break something (again)18:34
fried_ricegordc That was a tradeoff we were willing to take, given the near-nil velocity of development18:34
fried_riceThe other side being that we don't have the paperwork of approving the occasional requirements patch or whatever.  It's really sixes either way.18:34
gordcfried_rice: i see. i mean, it seems like it'd be the same but with added overheaded of you folks having to move code to ceilometer. seems best to stick with what we have18:35
fried_riceWFM18:35
gordccool!18:35
thorst_thank you sir18:36
gordcnp. need to remember to contact you folks whenever we touch compute agent.18:37
gordci guess ML is still good?18:37
thorst_yep, I think fried_rice watches that a bit closer than me though18:37
thorst_but that should be fine18:37
gordccool cool18:38
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openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ceilometermiddleware master: Update reno for stable/pike  https://review.openstack.org/48861921:02
boris_42@gordc hi there21:05
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/python-aodhclient master: Update reno for stable/pike  https://review.openstack.org/48874721:06
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient master: Update reno for stable/pike  https://review.openstack.org/48875221:06
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/python-pankoclient master: Update reno for stable/pike  https://review.openstack.org/48880521:07
gordcboris_42: hey21:09
gordcwhatsup?21:09
boris_42@gordc how things are going?21:09
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gordcit's friday so can't complain (that much)21:09
boris_42@gordc so I really don't know what to do with that failing scenario and I am not expert in Ceilometer to understand whatever it's right or not21:10
boris_42@gordc i did this change btw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486443/21:10
boris_42@gordc as well not sure whatever it's right or not21:10
boris_42http://logs.openstack.org/43/486443/2/check/gate-rally-dsvm-neutron-telemetry-ubuntu-xenial-nv/6c20434/rally-plot/results.html.gz#/CeilometerResource.get_tenant_resources/failures21:10
boris_42these are errors (you can click to see the full text)21:10
boris_42can you help me a bit to debug this thing21:11
boris_42it's really anoying to have red status of job every time21:11
gordci can try to take a look at it tomorrow? i'm actually about to step out in a few minutes21:11
gordcis this a new bug?21:12
gordcwe haven't touched ceilometer-api in over a year (maybe over two years)21:12
boris_42@gordc so as I saw that few weeks ago it actually worked21:13
boris_42http://logs.openstack.org/63/481963/6/check/gate-rally-dsvm-neutron-telemetry-ubuntu-xenial-nv/692f1cf/rally-plot/results.html.gz#/CeilometerResource.get_tenant_resources21:14
boris_42and it was failing at least half times21:14
boris_42btw one question when you publish samples bulk21:14
boris_42are they analyzed immediately ?21:14
boris_42or there is some queue that is processed periodically?21:14
gordci don't know how to interpret that chart21:14
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boris_42so when we create samples can we retrive them immediately?21:15
gordcboris_42: the basic workflow is either polling agent or openstack service sends data to queue... the notification agent grabs from queue and puts data into gnocchi (or in your case ceilometer)21:15
gordcin your case yes, they are accessible immediately21:15
boris_42@gordc so if I add sleep it won't help basicallY? )21:16
gordcor however long it takes to go from queue to notification agent to mongodb(or whatever you have)21:16
gordcsleep where?21:16
boris_42@gordc after I create samples and before I try to query them21:16
boris_42let me actually try to do that21:17
gordcthe notificaiton agent does 'sleep' in that it supports batching and will only publish after x seconds or y queue size21:17
openstackgerritVictoria Martinez de la Cruz proposed openstack/ceilometer master: Fix share.size meter  https://review.openstack.org/48615721:17
gordcare you creating samples via api?21:17
boris_42yep21:17
gordcin that case, it goes ceilometer-api->queue->notification-agent->[queue->collector]->mongodb21:18
boris_42https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/plugins/openstack/scenarios/ceilometer/utils.py#L417-L42321:18
boris_42@gordc so ^ this is the method21:19
gordcthere might be a wait at notification agent or collector depending on batch_size|batch_timeout values21:19
boris_42so let me just add some sleep21:19
gordci should still point out this is all deprecated so...21:19
boris_42like 1 minute21:19
boris_42so maybe just removing this logic21:19
boris_42btw what is the new way to do the things?21:19
gordcboris_42: sorry, i need to head out. maybe create a bug with more details?21:19
gordccurrent workflow is polling-agent->queue->notificiation-agent->gnocchi21:20
gordcin your case, you are just pushing straight to gnocchi21:20
gordcall the storage stuff you're testing is effectively deprecated and covered by gnocchi.21:21
gordcreally sorry. got to go. feel free to open a bug and we can track there if needed.21:21
gordcor monday21:21
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boris_42gordc no worries see you on monday21:22
boris_42really would like to fix have someone from Ceilometer review what we is in Rally21:22
boris_42we have in Rally*21:23
boris_42and help fixing it21:23
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