Monday, 2017-01-09

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zyunHello05:05
zyunWho can tell me what is the difference between Cloudkitty and ceilometer?05:05
zyunthey are both using for metering?05:06
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: rest: returns orignal resource id  https://review.openstack.org/41783611:54
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: tempest: Allow to not run deprecated API tests  https://review.openstack.org/41786312:49
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EmilienMsileht: http://logs.openstack.org/65/410865/11/check/gate-puppet-openstack-integration-4-scenario001-tempest-centos-7/6555745/console.html#_2017-01-09_13_37_07_19655813:43
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silehtEmilienM, arf, it doesn't find the cirros image even with my fix13:59
EmilienMsileht: wait, check the ceilo version14:03
EmilienMsileht: we haven't promoted since 2 days14:03
EmilienMwhich means we deploy ceilometer from friday or thursday14:03
silehtEmilienM, we need this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416279/14:04
silehtEmilienM, merged the 3/114:04
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: rest: returns orignal resource id  https://review.openstack.org/41783614:04
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EmilienMsileht: we have it then.14:08
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: tempest: use tempest img  https://review.openstack.org/41789514:19
silehtEmilienM, I will try switch our gate to use the same glance image than yours, it will be easier to debug14:20
EmilienMsileht: ok14:20
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magghello guys14:28
maggi left gnocchi running during the christmas holiday, I don't have any space on my system14:29
maggdo you know what do I need to delete to free the space14:29
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nicodemus_magg, maybe you could delete some resources? That would delete all the metrics associated to that resource...14:32
maggok good idea14:33
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nicodemus_that is, if you can afford to lose that data.14:34
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gordcyou can also change your policies to store less data... that said diskspace is not an issue i've run into.14:36
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nicodemus_gordc, may I trouble you with a question? I'm having an issue starting the ceilometer-agent-notification (mitaka) with this error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/594287/14:46
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gordcnicodemus_: hmm.. i'll look at code.14:57
silehtnicodemus_, you should have a line like "INFO: ... Definitions: XXXX" before14:58
silehtnicodemus_, what is the XXXXXX ?14:58
nicodemus_sileht, like this: {'sources': [{'events': ['*'], 'name': 'event_source', 'sinks': ['event_sink']}], 'sinks': [{'publishers': ['notifier://'], 'transformers': None, 'name': 'event_sink', 'triggers': None}]}14:58
nicodemus_I'm using the sample config files from http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/config-reference/telemetry/sample-configuration-files.html14:59
silehtnicodemus_, looks like a misconfig between event_pipeline.yaml and event_definition.yaml15:03
nicodemus_I believe I made a mistake in the config, was pointing to the event_pipeline.yaml for event.definitions_cfg_file instead of event_definition.yaml15:03
silehtnicodemus_, yes something like that15:04
silehtnicodemus_, the validation code looks not strong enought :)15:04
nicodemus_yeah... changed it and now the agent-notification is up and running, my bad15:04
maggi had 200 GB of gnocchi data, gordc how do I change the data storing policy15:05
gordcmagg: how many resources do you have?15:06
maggit is a test machine, so diskspace is an issue in my case15:06
magggee I don't know I just deleted everything15:07
gordcmagg: kk.15:08
gordcmagg: http://gnocchi.xyz/rest.html#archive-policy15:08
maggthanks gordc15:08
gordcthere's a part about "existing archive policies"15:08
* gordc wishes there was more anchors on that page15:09
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silehtthe openstack package mirror is really sick...15:32
silehtjd__, can you take a look to: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397654/15:34
silehtnova non-polling stuff15:35
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jd__sure15:35
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/ceilometer: Don't poll nova with compute agent  https://review.openstack.org/39765415:41
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/aodh: Simple pip install fails for python3  https://review.openstack.org/41751716:08
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silehtjd__, thx!16:49
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: tempest: use tempest img  https://review.openstack.org/41789516:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/gnocchi: ceph: Workaround for oslo.config interpolation bug  https://review.openstack.org/41750116:56
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edmondswjd__ gordc https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/commit/8d23f431ab0bd638edbf2197e56bea68d7b06a21 removed the events API without it ever having been deprecated?17:24
edmondswthe releasenotes there say that it had been deprecated, but I can't find any evidence that that's true17:25
gordcedmondsw: it was deprecated last cycle.17:28
gordcit was mentioned in releasenotes17:28
gordci don't mind reverting it.17:29
edmondswoh, the whole API was deprecated... https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/commit/6616a714009a80c7484fa2292c2331868617cb9c17:29
gordcwell there's that...  for ocata17:29
edmondswgordc but a) that was only last cycle... you're supposed to keep things around for a couple cycles after deprecation, not remove in the next cycle17:29
gordchttp://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/ceilometer/newton.html#deprecation-notes17:29
edmondswgordc and b) you're never supposed to remove API support17:29
gordcedmondsw: well the api is still there. it'll just redirect to panko... similar to how we did alarms17:30
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edmondswgordc, ah, good... so you just have to setup panko17:30
gordcthe deprecation policy is to have a cycle... it's just most projects are too lazy to actually remove stuff17:30
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edmondswand do we have a way to migrate all the old date into panko?17:31
gordcedmondsw: that said, i'm ok with reverting it if it helps17:31
gordcyou shoudln't need to migrate anything17:31
gordcit's just anotehr service that manages it17:31
edmondswgordc so you setup panko to use the same database that ceilometer was using?17:32
gordcassuming you were not storing metering/alarming/events all in one db17:32
edmondsw(and is still using for things other than events)17:32
edmondswgordc we are storing metering/events in the same db17:32
edmondswwhy would you assume otherwise?17:32
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gordcbecause i would think it's not scalable.17:33
edmondswI didn't even know it was possible to put them in separate dbs17:33
edmondswand separating wouldn't help scalability in our case17:33
edmondswthey'd still be on the same system17:33
gordci see17:34
gordcmaybe raise the issue to ML? i think we got similar feedback when we ripped out aodh but it turned out to be ok in the end.17:35
gordcedmondsw: you can just push a revert patch in meantime i think.17:36
edmondswI'll send something to the ML, and then we can decide about reverting17:37
edmondswgordc tx17:37
gordckk17:37
jd__edmondsw: also the old database for ceilometer API is deprecated too17:38
jd__just sayin'17:38
edmondswgordc is it safe to assume y'all are planning on doing the same for the metering API in ocata?17:38
edmondswjd__ then why am I not getting deprecation warnings?17:39
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jd__edmondsw: do you run master?17:39
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edmondswwe're moving to it. I haven't checked for dep warnings there, but you can't remove things that didn't have dep warnings in newton17:39
gordcto remove ceilometer api? not in ocata... we haven't discussed next steps... we just want people to be aware no ones worked on ceilometer metering api for over a year (maybe 2)17:40
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edmondswgordc why the removal of the events api before the metering api? Isn't gnocchi older than panko? I would have expected the reverse order17:41
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edmondswwe've had moving to gnocchi and panko on our todo list for some time, but since they weren't deprecated there wasn't much of a rush... now all the sudden they are both deprecated and removed in short order...17:41
gordcwe never officially deprecated the metering api and it's the most used.17:41
edmondswgordc this says metering api is also deprecated, at least for ocata https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/commit/6616a714009a80c7484fa2292c2331868617cb9c17:42
gordcright. we didn't officially deprecate until recently. it's just been sitting idle and we probably should've deprecated a while ago.17:43
edmondswI'm 100% on board with that... great to deprecate it... but then it can't be removed in the same release it's deprecated...17:44
gordcwe're not removing the metering stuff in ocata17:44
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gordci don't know when really since gnocchi isn't actually a straight copy of ceilometerv217:45
gordcpanko is just a straight copy17:45
edmondswgordc that comment was referring to events as much as metering... I wouldn't consider events API deprecated in newton since there was no deprecation warning17:45
edmondswgordc if it's an easy switch to panko, maybe we can contain that... just freaking out a little at the short notice...17:46
gordcwell it was in release notes... but fair enough. i don't remember if we added code17:46
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gordci'm ok with reverting. if it's not a clean switch.17:47
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edmondswgordc do you expect to remove the metering API in pike?17:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Don't poll nova with compute agent  https://review.openstack.org/39765417:51
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edmondswgordc I'm used to deprecation warnings that say the function "may be removed in ..." but that's not done here17:51
gordcedmondsw: probably not, but jd__  likes to delete stuff.17:51
gordcedmondsw: that said, the metering stuff hasn't been touched in a long, long time.17:52
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/ceilometer: Fix oslo.vmware change that added new keyword argument  https://review.openstack.org/41806919:34
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: drop instance meter  https://review.openstack.org/40097319:49
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: use domainListGetStats to get cputime  https://review.openstack.org/40135419:50
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jdandrea_Q: For those using Ceilometer (and the newer oslo futurist and cotyledon libraries), do you find that using them can result in a lot of CPU usage even though they're just sitting around waiting to do stuff? (Wondering if I'm misusing them somehow.)20:32
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jdandrea_(When we profile our code, CPU usage for an app can be upwards of 50% even though it shows that we're just sitting around waiting. That's why I'm wondering if we're misusing them, cotyledon in particular.)20:42
gordcjdandrea_: profiling using top?20:47
gordci haven't seen it in my environment... you know what cotyledon version you're using?20:47
silehtjdandrea_, I have checked and indeed the last cotyledon version use a bit of cpu for nothing20:51
jdandrea_gordc: I did use top, yes, however I started out by using cProfile under PyCharm, then run through pstats. I see a *lot* of time being spent in <select.select> and _wait_forever. (Currently on 1.5.0)20:51
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silehtjdandrea, I will release a new fixed version20:53
jdandreasileht: Thank you! We will be sure to give it a try.20:53
gordci think i've done my job. time to kick back and relax20:54
jdandreagordc: "My work here is done." XD20:54
gordc:)20:54
gordchard days work.20:54
silehtjdandrea, I have just uploaded 1.6.420:57
jdandreasileht: Thanks! Will try asap in the next 24h.20:57
jdandrea(If not sooner)20:57
silehtjdandrea, thx !20:57
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jdandreaAnd I must issue a correction: I was in fact on 1.6.2, not 1.5.0. So I'll try 1.6.4 next.20:59
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jdandreasileht: Just tried it out. Still seeing %CPU around 50% for each process. Hmm. I wonder if it's originating from futurist instead? I will look at the profiling again.21:18
jdandreaBut then perhaps that's ok. It's just that I look at processes like heat-engine and so on and see 2%, 0.7%, and while they don't use either package, they also use multiple threads IIRC.21:19
jdandreaStay tuned ...21:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Fix oslo.vmware change that added new keyword argument  https://review.openstack.org/41806921:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: drop instance meter  https://review.openstack.org/40097321:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: use domainListGetStats to get cputime  https://review.openstack.org/40135421:50
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: remove residual instance pollster  https://review.openstack.org/41814322:57
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