Tuesday, 2016-08-30

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openstackgerritliuwei proposed openstack/ceilometer:   network.incoming/outgoing.bytes print debug:  https://review.openstack.org/35633301:04
openstackgerritliuwei proposed openstack/ceilometer:   network.incoming/outgoing.bytes print debug:  https://review.openstack.org/35633301:06
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openstackgerritliuwei proposed openstack/ceilometer: The debug that network.incoming/outgoing.packets print is not right  https://review.openstack.org/35633301:53
openstackgerritliuwei proposed openstack/ceilometer: The debug that network.incoming/outgoing.packets print is not right  https://review.openstack.org/35633301:54
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openstackgerritfengchaoyang proposed openstack/gnocchi: Check whether the resource type attribute min is less than or equal to max  https://review.openstack.org/36160403:02
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korean101hi guys06:31
korean101how can i config data source (https://grafana.net/plugins/sileht-gnocchi-datasource)06:32
korean101i use devstack (vagrant)06:32
korean101my gnocchi.conf file (http://paste.openstack.org/show/564766/)06:33
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openstackgerritxiaozhuangqing proposed openstack/ceilometermiddleware: Trivial: clean up oslo-incubator related stuff  https://review.openstack.org/36265507:07
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openstackgerritSu Zhengwei proposed openstack/ceilometer: remove needless brackets  https://review.openstack.org/36269708:24
openstackgerritSu Zhengwei proposed openstack/ceilometer: remove needless brackets  https://review.openstack.org/36269708:28
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openstackgerritxiaozhuangqing proposed openstack/ceilometer: panko.abort()  https://review.openstack.org/36271409:02
openstackgerritxiaozhuangqing proposed openstack/ceilometer: abort panko URLs when panko is unavailable  https://review.openstack.org/36271509:02
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openstackgerritXueFeng Liu proposed openstack/ceilometer: Fix string interpolation in log  https://review.openstack.org/35542209:16
openstackgerritfengchaoyang proposed openstack/gnocchi: Check whether the resource type attribute min is less than or equal to max  https://review.openstack.org/36160409:17
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Anticimexlooking into deploying ceilometer now09:44
Anticimexi understand the origin of ceilometer was built primarily with mongodb, and that the first sqlalchemy models that appeared were sort of naive translations from mongodb09:44
Anticimexhas that changed, or is there still a sort of suboptimization when using e.g. postgresql with ceilometer?09:45
Anticimexor any other concerns with using postgres?09:45
Anticimexmy team is so small and nobody has any mongodb skills, that i'm willing to pay a small fine to avoid yet another new database technology, as long as it still functions properly (and my team is much much more likely to operate postgresql well than mongodb)09:46
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cdentAnticimex: there were quite a few improvements to the SQL handling around Juno-ish that made it a lot better10:15
cdenthowever, these days, if you are starting fresh, you may wish to use gnocchi10:15
Anticimexgnocchi seems very young though from the sidelines10:28
cdentAnticimex: it is relatively young but depending on what you are doing with the data is _much_ better than ceilometer10:36
cdentwhat do you intend to do with the data?10:36
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xiaozhuangqingHi jd__11:48
xiaozhuangqingcan we implement QueryController support event ?11:48
xiaozhuangqinghehe11:49
jd__xiaozhuangqing: we can do anything with computers I'd say11:49
jd__xiaozhuangqing: the real questions is "do we want to"11:50
xiaozhuangqingright! we want good thing ^^11:51
openstackgerritxiaozhuangqing proposed openstack/ceilometermiddleware: clean up oslo-incubator related stuff  https://review.openstack.org/36265511:59
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xiaozhuangqing what happened between two patch ,change and revert?12:23
xiaozhuangqinghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/359205/                    service_clients----->identity12:23
xiaozhuangqinghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/357713/                    identity  ------>service_clients12:23
openstackgerritxiaozhuangqing proposed openstack/ceilometer: Remove unnecessary confirm prompt  https://review.openstack.org/36282912:33
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gordcxiaozhuangqing: they reverted the patch identity->service_clients patch in tempest12:55
Anticimexcdent: billing13:00
Anticimexcdent: i do approve of the primary two choises of postgres + ceph for data storage in gnocchi13:00
Anticimexwe have existing tools written for ceilometer, so i don't have much choice currently13:00
cdentgordc: I can't remember the name of the billing thing that can use gnocchi. Can you so Anticimex can think about that (maybe for future reference).13:01
cdentAnticimex: well in that case, I'd try the newer sql stuff in ceilo: it has some advantages over the mongo stuff.13:01
Anticimexack, thx!13:03
gordcAnticimex: Cloudkitty uses ceilometer data for billing/chargeback13:10
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gordcbut it works with gnocchi not legacy ceilometer storage.13:10
Anticimexgordc: ack13:13
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jd__gordc: be prepared, it's coming back!13:30
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gordcjd__: what's coming back?13:34
jd__gordc: my compression branch :-P13:34
gordc:)13:34
gordccool cool. will take a look13:34
jd__muscle your brain now13:34
jd__I'm fixing pep8 and I'll spam13:35
gordci'll find a place to nap13:35
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: write full data when the split is going read-only  https://review.openstack.org/35831114:04
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: swift: remove retrying code  https://review.openstack.org/35832714:04
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: factorize out _get_unaggregated_timeserie_and_unserialize  https://review.openstack.org/35831014:04
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: optimize uncompressed serialization  https://review.openstack.org/35831414:04
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: compress non padded timeseries  https://review.openstack.org/35831314:04
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: use calcsize rather than hard coded value  https://review.openstack.org/35831214:04
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: storage: return list of split as a set  https://review.openstack.org/36289014:04
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: storage: test splits existing after delete  https://review.openstack.org/36289114:04
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: storage: re-store/write read-only splits  https://review.openstack.org/36289214:04
gordcand so it begins.14:07
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jd__looks like Gnocchi gate is broken with MySQL15:22
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gordcjd__: reply to drop postgresql gate thread and say, let's drop mysql instead. :)15:32
sileht+115:32
gordcsileht: you still on PTO?15:33
silehtgordc, no, I'm back15:33
gordcyay!15:34
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jd__gordc: totally…15:59
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: write full data when the split is going read-only  https://review.openstack.org/35831116:12
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: swift: remove retrying code  https://review.openstack.org/35832716:12
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: factorize out _get_unaggregated_timeserie_and_unserialize  https://review.openstack.org/35831016:12
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: storage: re-store/write read-only splits  https://review.openstack.org/36289216:12
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: storage: return list of split as a set  https://review.openstack.org/36289016:12
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: optimize uncompressed serialization  https://review.openstack.org/35831416:12
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: storage: test splits existing after delete  https://review.openstack.org/36289116:12
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: compress non padded timeseries  https://review.openstack.org/35831316:12
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: use calcsize rather than hard coded value  https://review.openstack.org/35831216:12
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jd__you can do this gordc16:14
jd__:D16:14
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aRmando__Hi, I want to use Openstack Ceilometer to make a Billing APP.. I read the docs but i dont really know how to make it work.16:36
aRmando__Where can i find more information or an API to make it work16:36
gordcjd__: added a comment, i'm still not certain how using block timestamp of longest series affects shorter series. i think i'm on single train of thought right now16:39
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gordcaRmando__: there is a billing solution called cloudkitty which uses ceilometer data and gnocchi storage to do billing16:39
gordcyou might want to look at that.16:39
gordcceilometer is just a normalisation/transformation service (think logstash). you can do whatever you want with the data16:40
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jd__gordc: I wrote an example/explanation, if you see a case that is missed, try to do the same, maybe we'll find a case that's not covered or maybe you'll understand my reasoning :)16:52
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openstackgerritAmy Fong proposed openstack/ceilometer: Fix checking IP version when using IPv6.  https://review.openstack.org/35996416:53
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jd__me? I draw on post-it so I can understand what I'm doing16:54
jd__:D16:54
gordcjd__: oh. i just read first_block_timestamp again. i thought it was working on first value of series. apparently it's working on last.17:00
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jd__yes it is17:01
jd__exactly gordc17:01
gordclet me take a look again with that knowledge. i'll send you image of my drawings.17:01
jd__no wini drawing gordc17:02
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gordcis wini a misspell or is it suppose to be some fat dude (according to google images)17:03
gordcbbl. time for lunch17:04
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jd__gordc: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=WINI17:13
jd__gordc: I'm glad I can teach you some slang17:14
jd__gordc: if you do drawing, go ahead and document the stuff ;-)17:14
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pawjd__, gordc: Hi, question on a gerrit review - the IP version one... discovering this one test case where if you create a UDP Publisher class with an invalid hostname, it's expected that the socket should still be created and you should continue to be able to send. I'm assuming that htis is because UDP is connectionless, is this correct?17:52
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vikshi, I would like to know if I can delete samples of a specific meter periodically from Ceilometer? I would not like to configure time_to_live in conf file as it is applicable to all the meters17:57
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gordcjd__: hahah. i was going to to ask if WINI was safe for work... i should know better.18:15
gordcpaw: which test case?18:16
gordcviks: no. unfortunately not. you can use gnocchi which allows you to define policies per metric rather than globally18:16
pawgordc: ceilometer/tests/unit/publisher/test_udp.py's test_published18:17
gordcviks: it will never be fixed in ceilometer since we don't really support it anymore.18:17
pawgordc: I had expted with letting UDPPublisher throw an exception if the host is invalid (int hsi case "somehost") and the test case fails18:18
pawgordc: so just wanted to verify the expected behaviour of UDPPublisher18:18
gordcpaw: this one? https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/tests/unit/publisher/test_udp.py#L130-L15818:19
pawgordc: yes, that's the one18:21
gordcpaw: the socket module is mocked so basically it's never actually validating the host since it's meant to test another thing.18:24
gordcactually all the code is mocked. so basically it's never testing socket internals, just the logic on ceilometer end18:24
pawk, thanks18:25
viksgordc: Thanks for this info. I am little confused here by 'since we don't really support it anymore'. What is the alternative to ceilometer ?18:26
gordcviks: ceilometer is designed to be a normalisation/transformation service. so basically it takes incoming data, standardises it, and sends it off (another service, db, file, MQ, etc...). historically we just dumped it into a db but that dump isn't actually useful if you want to store the data long term or want responsive queries.18:29
gordcviks: the telemetry team have built Gnocchi (gnocchi.xyz) which stores ceilomter data in a time series format to be more efficient/responsive.18:29
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gordcviks: that said, you can also send the data to another database if you have a preference for someething else18:30
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viksThanks a lot gords18:32
gordcnp18:32
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nicodemus_hello19:06
nicodemus_one question about gnocchi: suppose I modified generic in order to add an attribute ("provider" in this case). I'm seeing that when the dispatcher tries to PATCH a resource with a provider attribute, gnocchi says that the extra key is not allowed19:08
nicodemus_I imagine gnocchi is checking the resource_type, sees that the resource_type does not have a "provider" attribute, and refuses the PATCH call19:08
nicodemus_my question is: if I modify generic in order to add an attribute, can that attribute be PATCHed by the dispatcher? Or whenever the dispatcher tries to PATCH a resource, its attributes must be declared in the resource_type?19:10
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gordcnicodemus_: how did you modify generic?20:01
nicodemus_gordc, by messing with the code20:01
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nicodemus_gordc, I changed https://github.com/openstack/gnocchi/blob/master/gnocchi/indexer/sqlalchemy_base.py#L278 and added the new column20:04
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nicodemus_and then added "provider" as an argument here: https://github.com/openstack/gnocchi/blob/master/gnocchi/indexer/sqlalchemy.py#L63520:05
gordcand you started a new db?20:05
nicodemus_not exactly, I altered the existing tables with the new column20:06
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gordcoh. hm... yeah, i'm not entirely sure since there's quite a few places your hack could mess up20:06
gordcthose seem to be correct places20:06
gordci probably wouldn't want to be hacking like that though, would suggest you contribute this upstream or wait for someone to implement upstream since there's a very good chance whatever you're doing is going to get broken evenutally20:07
gordci think sileht was working on adding support to modify attributes of existing resources. not sure where that is on his priority list20:08
nicodemus_ok... guess I'll add it to all the resource_types then20:08
gordcsorry for throwing you under bus sileht :)20:08
nicodemus_thanks gordc20:08
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silehtgordc: nicodemus_ I have started something before my vacation, I will continue soon20:28
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nicodemus_sileht, great news! Thanks20:31
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