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| openstackgerrit | zhanghanqun proposed openstack/gnocchi: Allow the volume display_name field to be null https://review.openstack.org/254665 | 01:41 |
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| fabian1 | Hi, I have a progrom ,When I add memory_use code, But The compute-agent not running memory_use ? | 03:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | yuntongjin proposed openstack/ceilometer: event to sample publisher https://review.openstack.org/227106 | 03:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | yuntongjin proposed openstack/ceilometer: event to sample publisher https://review.openstack.org/227106 | 07:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: gnocchi: fix cache hash logic https://review.openstack.org/254574 | 07:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: gnocchi: use gnocchiclient instead of requests https://review.openstack.org/237538 | 07:34 |
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| jd__ | global req broke the gate | 09:56 |
| jd__ | fuck that shit again | 09:56 |
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| cdent | jd__: you talking about the decorator stuff? | 10:02 |
| jd__ | yes | 10:03 |
| cdent | I reckon global req slowed down the fixing of the gate, but decorator itself broke it | 10:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: influxdb: avoid running first query if unnecessary https://review.openstack.org/254234 | 10:52 |
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| gordc | sileht: shall i close this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/support-keystone-v3 | 13:21 |
| sileht | gordc, if aodh and ceilometer patches are merged yes | 13:22 |
| * sileht checks | 13:22 | |
| sileht | gordc, the aodh parts is not merged yet https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250218/ | 13:22 |
| sileht | gordc, you have the power to make me lies | 13:22 |
| gordc | :) | 13:23 |
| gordc | let's try the heat patch | 13:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/256476 | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometermiddleware: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/255549 | 15:18 |
| gordc | cdent: for your global polling cache. how could we minimise the message queue load? | 15:23 |
| gordc | i assume if we have cache, the pollsters would be able to run in parallel? | 15:24 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/253755 | 15:25 |
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| cdent | gordc: that nadya's glocal polling cache isn't it? | 15:27 |
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| gordc | cdent: her's is for notification agent | 15:28 |
| gordc | i'm thinking more for pollsters | 15:28 |
| gordc | when you wanted to remove that 'group by interval' logic | 15:28 |
| * cdent is confused | 15:31 | |
| cdent | however I'm currently in the process of effectively hotwiring my own car, so distracted | 15:31 |
| cdent | biab | 15:31 |
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| gordc | ... get a friend to stand with 2x4 in case you get electrocuted, they can smash you with it. | 15:33 |
| gordc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208745/ | 15:34 |
| gordc | ^ that's what i was referring too. | 15:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: polling cache https://review.openstack.org/256543 | 15:37 |
| gordc | hmm... i did not mean to post that | 15:38 |
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| cdent | sorry gordc I'm back now | 15:55 |
| gordc | cdent: cool cool. i think i saw the code and the question i had is probably irrelevant now | 15:58 |
| gordc | possibly | 15:58 |
| cdent | I mostly think I've fixed the car, but not entirely sure | 16:00 |
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| gordc | ... don't you live by the ocean. buy a boat | 16:01 |
| gordc | or do you have a tandem car/boat | 16:01 |
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| cdent | I have a friend who has an aquacar | 16:03 |
| gordc | is it a terrible car and a terrible boat? | 16:05 |
| cdent | yes, exactly | 16:05 |
| gordc | i'd imagine. | 16:05 |
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| gordc | hmmm. what's teh point of project_id/user_id on the metric? | 16:10 |
| gordc | jd__: ^ | 16:10 |
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| gordc | cdent: if you want an easy patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254574/ | 16:23 |
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| cdent | I am a bad person for never starting tests on that code | 16:36 |
| cdent | It was just a wip, I swear! | 16:36 |
| gordc | cdent: lol i think that was my change but i'm cool if we blame you | 16:40 |
| cdent | I set the bad precedent of no tests | 16:41 |
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| gordc | cdent: so you going to write them :) | 16:42 |
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| gordc | i guess technically it's sort tested once we get that devstack change in. | 16:43 |
| cdent | after make the car fully working again | 16:43 |
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| gordc | cdent: buy a bike | 16:44 |
| cdent | sorta, but there's no direct unit tests so the test cycle is devious and unclear | 16:44 |
| cdent | too hilly | 16:44 |
| cdent | too fat | 16:44 |
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| gordc | buy a motorised bike | 16:44 |
| gordc | and a poncho | 16:44 |
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| jd__ | gordc: RBAC? | 16:51 |
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| gordc | jd__: for metrics without resource? | 16:55 |
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| jd__ | gordc: yes | 16:57 |
| gordc | what happens if metric ownership is differetn from resource ownership? | 16:59 |
| gordc | bbl. grabbing lunch | 17:02 |
| jd__ | gordc: it explodes | 17:05 |
| jd__ | gordc: I think there's code that check that can't happen | 17:06 |
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| cooolno1 | hello | 18:15 |
| cooolno1 | Need some help in understanding if ceilometer collects container metrics | 18:15 |
| gordc | cooolno1: we don't (unless it's lxc). if it is, we use libvirt | 18:21 |
| cooolno1 | gordc: so docker is not suppored | 18:24 |
| cooolno1 | gordc: so does that mean autoscaling of docker containers using nova-docker is not supported | 18:25 |
| cooolno1 | gordc: since there are not metrics collected? | 18:25 |
| gordc | there was an attempt at adding it but nova-docker itself is highly debated. | 18:27 |
| gordc | we support magnum metrics... but they don't have any metrics right now, so we're listening to nothing | 18:27 |
| gordc | cooolno1: there's a few other specs up to poll cadvisor but i don't think anyone is actively working on it. | 18:28 |
| gordc | if you have resources, feel free to start working on it. | 18:28 |
| cooolno1 | gordc: while I see there is huge focus on making containers run on openstack | 18:28 |
| cooolno1 | but why is the ecosystem not being build at a similar pace | 18:28 |
| cooolno1 | gordc: you can consider me as an observer | 18:29 |
| gordc | it's new(-ish)... | 18:29 |
| cooolno1 | I am just looking at the project and trying to understand whats going on in openstack regarding eco system around containers | 18:29 |
| gordc | it's also opensource... stuff only appears if you work on it :) or a big enterprise decides to be nice. | 18:29 |
| cooolno1 | gordc: I agree | 18:30 |
| cooolno1 | but that means whatever work has been done on docker side in openstack is really not useful to industry | 18:30 |
| cooolno1 | because I cannot manually go and spin containers if my load increases | 18:31 |
| cooolno1 | or cut down my containers if load goes down | 18:31 |
| gordc | well you can use lxc... | 18:31 |
| gordc | i think docker is a very popular trend and there are quite a few openstack projects working on it. | 18:32 |
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| cooolno1 | moreover afaik their is lot of work whcih has happened on docker in openstack nova-docker, heat docker resource, heat docker compose | 18:32 |
| stevelle | I'm not sure what the etherpads from the last summit will show but there was a lively discussion about auto-scaling with Magnum in Tokyo, cooolno1 | 18:32 |
| gordc | stevelle: yep. i'm sitting next to the guy who is working on it... or was. | 18:33 |
| gordc | the ceilometer aspect of it is implemented... i jsut don't think magnum is actually emitting anything currently | 18:33 |
| gordc | cooolno1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256440/ | 18:33 |
| gordc | that may or may not be interesting regarding nova-docker | 18:34 |
| stevelle | iirc the question of the session was how should they do it, what to use and what to invent | 18:34 |
| cooolno1 | gordc stevelle : thanks for all this info , couple of more questions | 18:35 |
| gordc | actually, apparently magnum is sending memory stats currently | 18:35 |
| gordc | but they need to implement events like 'create, delete' | 18:36 |
| cooolno1 | 1) Why their is not diverse-affiliation tag with ceilometer while most of the project has it | 18:36 |
| cooolno1 | http://governance.openstack.org/reference/projects/ceilometer.html | 18:36 |
| cooolno1 | 2) https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/ | 18:36 |
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| cooolno1 | Is ceilometer being used by anyone in the industry for metering? | 18:36 |
| gordc | cooolno1: because there's a few critiera items and the last time that was run, red hat was the leading contributor to ceilometer | 18:37 |
| gordc | cooolno1: based on survey, ceilometer was being used by some for metering... others for alarm. | 18:38 |
| gordc | ceilometer is really just a data collection tool. other projects are suppose to extend said data for specific use cases. ie Gnocchi uses ceilometer data to provide timeseries metric collection | 18:39 |
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| cooolno1 | gordc: thanks for all this info, talk to you later | 18:40 |
| gordc | cooolno1: np | 18:40 |
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| cooolno1 | gordc: one more question so basically ceilometer is not for monitoring | 18:42 |
| cooolno1 | it is just for metering | 18:42 |
| cooolno1 | because you got another project called monasca as well | 18:42 |
| cooolno1 | I guess that is the one for monitoring | 18:43 |
| gordc | ceilomter is just data. some people use that data for monitoring purposes | 18:43 |
| gordc | monasca is similar to ceilometer+aodh+gnocchi+a few other things combined | 18:43 |
| cooolno1 | aah okay | 18:44 |
| cooolno1 | so ceilo has got lot of data on vm,host | 18:44 |
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| cooolno1 | gordc:are their any dashboards provided by ceilometer | 18:44 |
| gordc | they overlap. only diffrence is monasca takes ceilometer data (and a few others), uses kafka, and has vertica as it's backend | 18:44 |
| gordc | cooolno1: horizon provides an interface for ceilometer data but it's not really usable as they are just pulling data from ceilmeter without a clear use case view | 18:46 |
| cooolno1 | Does ceilometer also collect stats from underlying Base OS or Compute node | 18:46 |
| gordc | gnocchi has graphana integration so you can visualise data that way | 18:46 |
| gordc | cooolno1: we have some snmp and ipmi metrics... and we get info from ironic (if applicable) | 18:46 |
| gordc | cooolno1: https://julien.danjou.info/blog/2015/openstack-gnocchi-grafana | 18:47 |
| cooolno1 | gordc: aah okay, but if I am not using ironic | 18:47 |
| cooolno1 | than do we have the Compute Node(host) host stats? | 18:47 |
| gordc | cooolno1: we have an ipmi agent which can grab equivalent data. | 18:47 |
| cooolno1 | gordc: it is possible to co-relate the data of Host with Nova Vm? | 18:48 |
| gordc | not everything you would get from something like vsphere but i guess that's more a matter of no one added it in yet. | 18:48 |
| gordc | hmm... i don't know if that's possible. i'd have to look the metadata. | 18:49 |
| cooolno1 | gordc: okay | 18:49 |
| cooolno1 | gordc: so you have to use a third party component like graffana for GUI | 18:49 |
| cooolno1 | or dashboards | 18:49 |
| cooolno1 | ceilometer does have alarms , can it also send emails/pagers? | 18:50 |
| gordc | yep. for gnocchi. | 18:50 |
| gordc | aodh is the alarming project. | 18:51 |
| gordc | it can't send smtp... that feature has been sitting for a while. | 18:51 |
| gordc | you are welcome to add it | 18:52 |
| cooolno1 | gordc: Does ceilo also collect network stats (ports, bridges, switches, adapters etc) | 18:52 |
| gordc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99019/ | 18:52 |
| cooolno1 | okay so thats lying for almost 18 months now | 18:53 |
| gordc | cooolno1: we capture the existence of some network devices currently | 18:53 |
| gordc | cooolno1: yeah. it's not a high priority item. and we only have a few resources so we chose more critical items | 18:53 |
| gordc | cooolno1: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/telemetry-measurements.html | 18:54 |
| gordc | that's what we have. we can add more but we really depend on others to add them. | 18:54 |
| gordc | ceilometer mainly provide the framework to collect/process them | 18:55 |
| cooolno1 | gordc: that is a pretty comprehensive list | 18:56 |
| cooolno1 | really happy to see that | 18:56 |
| cooolno1 | and it covers almost all the openstack projects | 18:56 |
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| cooolno1 | and along with that lot of hardware stuff by snmp & ipmi | 18:56 |
| cooolno1 | but docker is not their for whatever reason | 18:57 |
| gordc | yeah, i need to add that. | 18:57 |
| gordc | i wasn't aware magnum actually added support to send memory data. | 18:57 |
| gordc | but that's the only support we have from docker pov | 18:58 |
| cooolno1 | gordc: thanks, that was a pretty useful discussion | 18:58 |
| cooolno1 | catch you later | 18:58 |
| gordc | cooolno1: not a problem. ttyl | 18:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ondřej Nový proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Deprecated tox -downloadcache option removed https://review.openstack.org/256810 | 22:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Correct the host field of instance metadata https://review.openstack.org/235702 | 22:29 |
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