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| frickler | what is the deadline for the civs opt-in? start of the election period or earlier? since there was no tc election last time, it might be good to send an explicit reminder about it | 08:05 |
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| knikolla | o/ | 11:19 |
| knikolla | I’m on central european time for the next 2 weeks as I’m visiting family in Albania. | 11:19 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Add magnum-capi-helm-charts to Magnum project https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/893118 | 11:26 |
| fungi | frickler: effective deadline for opting into civs is the start of the election polls, since the rolls can't be added to civs before the the polls are officially started, though voters can still opt in after that and ask to have their ballots resent | 11:32 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Add magnum k8s charm https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/892652 | 11:44 |
| gmann | frickler: yeah as frickler mentioned and in past election (not previous cycle) we did reminded about civs opt-in requirement. I think also in election emails this time | 15:37 |
| frickler | ok, so no real deadline, just possibly more work for election officials who might need to trigger the resend? | 15:52 |
| fungi | right. ideally people would do it before the polls open | 16:06 |
| fungi | to keep the workload on the officials to a necessary minimum | 16:06 |
| fungi | i'm pretty sure the last time i used it, civs kicked back a list of all the electors whose ballots were not sent due to having not opted in, but it definitely shouldn't be on the officials to try and chase those people down | 16:07 |
| gmann | and this has been changed/required for many years, hoping everyone is aware of it. | 16:58 |
| fungi | well, several years now anyway | 17:05 |
| * frickler is still hoping that there are some new contributors each time, those may not have heard of this | 17:41 | |
| gmann | frickler: yeah, that is good point. I think election official can send a separate explicit email also. we did in past also the same. | 17:42 |
| frickler | and I haven't seen it mentioned in the latest election mails at the end of the nomination period at least | 17:42 |
| gmann | ohk I saw in initial emails at least | 17:42 |
| gmann | mention it to election official in election channel | 17:44 |
| gmann | As both election official in APEC TZ, me be they will send on Monday | 17:45 |
| gmann | *mentioned | 17:45 |
| gmann | last nomination day email has mentioned it but that is in-between of many text so easy to get missed, https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-August/034888.html | 17:49 |
| frickler | oh, it seems the resend isn't even necessary. I just registered and civs showed me a pending invitation for the antelope TC poll ... to bad it had ended already. but that should make voting possible for late-comers even without external help | 17:49 |
| gmann | ohk | 17:50 |
| fungi | yeah, i think they added that feature a while after the initial opt-in they built | 17:58 |
| fungi | good to have confirmation it's there | 17:58 |
| dansmith | when do the ballots go out? | 18:07 |
| gmann | Sep 06, 2023 23:45 UTC | 18:07 |
| gmann | https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 18:07 |
| dansmith | and once we've opted in once we're good forever right? no need for people to keep opting in right? | 18:07 |
| gmann | for both | 18:08 |
| gmann | TC and PTL election | 18:08 |
| gmann | dansmith: yes, if same email id then we are good. if changed in email then we need to do again | 18:08 |
| dansmith | yeah cool, so I imagine much of the electorate is opted in at this point anyway | 18:08 |
| fungi | well, the percentage of them who vote with any consistency anyway | 18:23 |
| frickler | the antelope tc poll had 61 votes cast out of 395 voters. the electorate count for the current election was 307 when I checked a couple of days ago. just to throw in some numbers | 19:02 |
| frickler | but that implies that for a large percentage of the voters we do not know whether they registered or not | 19:04 |
| frickler | if civs reports back when submitting the poll, we could ask the officials for the count of non-registered voters in order to have some better idea about it | 19:05 |
| fungi | that seems worth suggesting on the openstack-discuss ml or in the #openstack-election channel | 19:07 |
| frickler | more channels, sigh. but I guess you're right | 19:12 |
| spotz[m] | And we've been reminding folks to make sure their gerrit email and foundation emails match | 20:30 |
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