Monday, 2022-09-26

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fungitc-members: updating https://www.openstack.org/openstack-map for zed... removing panko and rpm (no longer teams for those), adding venus... should skyline be added as well, or not until it's finished "emerging"?15:03
noonedeadpunkI wouldn't add emerging project there15:07
noonedeadpunkquestion - what's status of refstack? 15:09
noonedeadpunkwrt TESTING / BENCHMARK section15:10
fungigood point, we might ought to remove it since that's not officially part of openstack any longer, but rather a project maintained by a working group of the foundation's board of directors15:12
funginoonedeadpunk: oh, it's not included there (for the reasons i just mentioned). are you asking whether it should be added?15:14
noonedeadpunkyeah, I jsut was not sure if it should be there or not15:14
noonedeadpunkthanks for answering :)15:14
fungithe git repo for it is https://opendev.org/openinfra/refstack these days, so not even in openstack's namespace15:15
noonedeadpunkah, yes, fair. I didn't track it for some time, so a bit lost it. I do recall some discussions about it's future though15:19
noonedeadpunkweird to see it in openinfra namespace though... as it has quite nothing to do with any openinfra stuff rather then openstack15:20
noonedeadpunkor well.... I guess I don't understand what openinfra namespace is for15:20
fungiopeninfra namespace is for foundation (including the foundation board of directors and their working groups and committees)15:22
fungirefstack is maintained by the interop working group of the board of directors15:22
fungisome of that is for historical reasons. the interop effort formed as a board wg back when the foundation was still focused only on openstack. refstack was added as part of the openstack project at the time and had its own project team. later the team suffered from lack of contributors and was closed down, but the interop wg insisted the tools were still needed so volunteered to take on15:24
fungiresponsibility for them15:24
fungithe original hope there had been that the qa team might collaborate on and officially take responsibility for refstack since it's tied pretty closely to tempest, but they weren't interested in doing so15:26
noonedeadpunkok, yeah, thanks for exmplanation. As indeed now openstack-focused tooling owned by openinfra is a bit confusing without historical context I'd say15:26
funginot without precedent though. the foundation webdev team/contractors maintain the www.openstack.org site hosting and content, for example15:28
fungithough the repositories they use for that are on github not in opendev15:28
gmannwell refstack is only for interop things and it was unmaintained for long time with broken state. now it is working i think.17:04
gmannbut agree to update the openstack map with the changes. let me propose17:05
fungigmann: i think ttx was working on the update, just wanted to confirm whether to include skyline yet17:06
gmannfungi: ohk. we can wait for skyline I think and rest all good to update17:06
fungii'll let him know17:07
gmannthanks17:08
gmannnoonedeadpunk: some documentation update needed for CI/CD migration to ubuntu 22.04 goal https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/85869017:27
noonedeadpunkgmann: yup, I saw reviews, which are super fair17:32
noonedeadpunkDidn't have time today to get to it17:32
noonedeadpunkHopefully I will take care of that tomorrow morning17:32
* noonedeadpunk in EU time17:32
gmannnoonedeadpunk: sure, no hurry. let me know if any help needed. 17:35
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