Monday, 2022-08-29

opendevreviewTakashi Kajinami proposed openstack/election master: Adding Takashi Kajinami candidacy for Puppet OpenStack PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/85493200:10
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opendevreviewwu.chunyang proposed openstack/election master: Adding wuchunyang candidacy for Trove  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/85503413:56
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opendevreviewEyal proposed openstack/election master: Add Eyal Bar-Ilan candidacy for Vitrage PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/85496914:29
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gmannspotz: knikolla: it seems many member who wish to nominate themself might be on PTO in this week, any planB to extend the nomination window? at least for PTL nomination ? may be for another week?15:21
knikollagmann: we're pretty behind schedule, but it should be doable to have PTL nomination run while TC campaigning is happening. 16:17
gmannknikolla: yeah, I was thinking to extend PTL one during TC campaigning and no change in election dates16:55
knikollaAs per usual, I'm a bit worried about getting enough TC candidates16:56
gmannyeah, let's see16:57
gmanntc-memebrs ^^ any thoughts 17:18
gmannabout extending the PTL nomination for another week (during TC Champaign) ?17:19
gmann*campaign 17:19
dansmithno complaints17:28
spotzgmann: We might have to extend both. I've got sending a reminder on my calendar for later today17:42
spotzAnd candidates aren't mailing the dev list so I've been keeping an eye on the reviews17:45
spotzOk reminder sent with. note we might extend if most folks are on vacation17:57
opendevreviewYasufumi Ogawa proposed openstack/election master: Adding Yasufumi Ogawa candidacy for Tacker  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/85507317:58
gmannspotz: thanks, sounds good plan for extending both too. 18:10
spotzYeah and giving folks time to get their submittal right if there are errors. So far everyone is eligible atleast once they fix a few things18:12
fungias a related point, if we're having trouble getting enough candidates then the campaigning period isn't much use anyway18:13
fungithat was originally added so contributors could make up their minds who to vote for, which doesn't do much good if there ends up being no need to vote18:14
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spotzfungi: from the dates the campaigning was only for the TC but yeah that gives us an extra week of leeway if we're not needing it, even 2 weeks if no elections needed19:40
knikolla++19:40
knikollaI do remember some good email threads when there were quite a lot more candidates than seats, but that hasn't been the case for a while 19:42
spotzNope not for a while knikolla19:42
opendevreviewMerged openstack/election master: Adding Takashi Kajinami candidacy for Storlets PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/85491619:44
gmannspotz: knikolla: agree. let's propose the extension so that we can get agreement by tomorrow (1 day in advance) and merge it.19:47
spotzIn the election repo or just edit the exception patch?19:49
knikollahey fungi. just double checking but the TC doesn't have a limit on how many people can be from a single org right?19:52
opendevreviewMerged openstack/election master: Adding Takashi Kajinami candidacy for Puppet OpenStack PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/85493219:55
opendevreviewMerged openstack/election master: Adding Yasufumi Ogawa candidacy for Tacker  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/85507319:55
opendevreviewMerged openstack/election master: Add Eyal Bar-Ilan candidacy for Vitrage PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/85496919:55
fungiknikolla: it does, check the charter but it's no more than 50% i believe20:00
spotzfungi: We couldn't find it hence the ask fungi cause you know most everythinng.. Oh NM just found it. it says half or more vs a number!20:02
fungiknikolla: spotz: it's in the foundation bylaws linked from the charter, appendix 4 section (c): https://openinfra.dev/legal/openstack-technical-committee-member-policy20:03
fungi"In the event of a Technical Committee election that would result in half or more of the members of the Technical Committee being Affiliated, the Board of Directors may defer the effective date of office of the newly elected Technical Committee members who are Affiliated for a period not to exceed thirty (30) days after a resolution by the Board of Directors approving such deferral..."20:03
spotzHalf or more just didn't jump out at me20:04
knikollafungi: you're a wizard, thank you. I tried searching but didn't hit the keyword bingo.20:05
fungino prob20:08
fungii've stared at those documents for far longer than is healthy20:08
gmannspotz: in election configuration you need you update the extended schedule. TC exception is fine as it is. 20:16
knikollaI read the OAuth 2.0 RFC when I have trouble sleeping. 20:17
spotzOk I'll update my config yaml and push it after we decide how we want to reschedule20:18
opendevreviewPierre Riteau proposed openstack/election master: Add Pierre Riteau candidacy for Blazar  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/85508520:20
gmannknikolla: spotz : good point on diversity in TC. I think there are high chance of having more than half from one organization in this election or at least in future election as per current situation of contributors from redhat mostly 20:33
gmannif that happen in this election then we should discuss with board either somehow encourage more companies to step up for contributos/leadership or changing this bylaw. let's see how it goes. 20:35
gmannI feel like this bylaw needs some adjustment as per current situation 20:35
gmannwe have already 3 member from redhat in existing TC (till April term)20:37
spotzAs long as we don't get more then 1 more RHer I think we'd be fine numberwise we're at 4 if Dan is reelected, 5 I think would be the max20:39
gmannyeah but chances are more that more candidates from redhat otherwise we will sort of candidates :)20:41
fungimainly, the expectation is that candidates who all have the same employer would coordinate amongst themselves in order to avoid a majority of seats20:55
opendevreviewGage Hugo proposed openstack/election master: Add Gage Hugo candidacy for OpenStack-Helm PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/85509422:30

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