| TheJulia | gmann: no reuse it seems | 15:03 |
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| gmann | TheJulia: dansmith dmendiza[m] knikolla please use this https://meet.google.com/nfc-yjow-jcy | 15:03 |
| gmann | TheJulia: dansmith dmendiza[m] knikolla sorry, this one https://meet.google.com/qax-tkne-dmk | 15:04 |
| gmann | tc-members: for this week meeting, CFN guys cannot use google meet. we can schedule on zoom. Anyone have paid account on zoom? | 15:35 |
| dansmith | I don't | 15:35 |
| knikolla | I have a zoom | 15:35 |
| fungi | we can probablt get one from the foundation staff (though not from me personally, i'm not that important) | 15:36 |
| fungi | diablo_rojo__ may be able to help out though | 15:36 |
| gmann | knikolla: thanks, can you schedule for May 5th 2022, 15-16 UTC and let me know the link | 15:37 |
| Guest1122 | I have one | 15:37 |
| Guest1122 | Heh gotta fix nick | 15:37 |
| Guest1122 | plz hold | 15:37 |
| gmann | sure, that was my 2nd option for sure | 15:37 |
| *** Guest1122 is now known as diablo_rojo_phone | 15:37 | |
| knikolla | Sure, will do | 15:38 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | Fixed | 15:38 |
| gmann | diablo_rojo_phone: thanks, knikolla will schedule one this time. | 15:38 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | gmann: works for me | 15:38 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | I have one as a backup if need be | 15:38 |
| gmann | great, will ping if we need that as backup | 15:39 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | Also just for future reference :) Happy to share it with the community. | 15:40 |
| gmann | noted. | 15:40 |
| *** diablo_rojo__ is now known as diablo_rojo | 15:52 | |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Adding gmann to oslo tact-sig liaison https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/840351 | 15:59 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Documentation update for 'tick', 'tock' name https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/840354 | 16:26 |
| gmann | tc-members: ^^ 'tick', 'tock' word updates as per legal checks | 16:27 |
| fungi | dansmith: any time your first reaction is "lol lawyers," it's probably an indication that legal guidance has been misunderstood or applied too literally | 16:56 |
| dansmith | fungi: my reaction to lots of legit things is "lol lawyers" | 16:57 |
| fungi | which also probably means most legal guidance is misapplied or taken too literally ;) | 16:58 |
| dansmith | I didn't get to see the guidance, fwiw | 16:58 |
| dansmith | from the changes he's making it looks like a single hyphenated term of "tick-tock" is the problem and not the use of those words together but individually | 16:59 |
| dansmith | which I can totally believe is important | 16:59 |
| dansmith | also, fungi, my "lol lawyers" need not be directed at *our* side | 16:59 |
| fungi | on the other hand, it's replacing one piece of punctuation with another | 16:59 |
| dansmith | "tick-tock" is a single term, but "tick" and "tock" are separate terms | 17:00 |
| fungi | but the way they're being used in the sentence is still the same, there's no other words separating them and the commas are nonsensically injected, so not denoting individual clauses | 17:01 |
| dansmith | man, sometimes I wonder why I even _have_ an opinion | 17:01 |
| fungi | it's essentially creating grammatical errors for the sake of avoiding a particular piece of punctuation | 17:01 |
| dansmith | fungi: please accept my apologies and let me know if/when you think it's ready | 17:01 |
| fungi | from what i'm told, the guidance from laywers is to not use the words "tick" and "tock" together in attention-getting ways (by which they don't mean this use of the words) | 17:02 |
| fungi | anyone can sue us for anything at any time. the odds that they'll sue for this particular use of the words is apparently low, and it seems like replacing the punctuation we're using here probably doesn't change that | 17:04 |
| fungi | so the project is free to prefer clarity in its documentation over some unnatural sentence construct | 17:04 |
| gmann | I think with quotes around both making them separate and not as together which is what Wes mean to me but if that is also together then how to use them separate when they have to used right after each other? | 17:17 |
| gmann | anyways I have added foundation team in review as well in email we discussed the legal things. I will be happy to change the way it is more suitable for legal. | 17:19 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Update documentation to try DPL model for leaderless projects https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/840363 | 17:55 |
| gmann | slaweq: thanks for update, few more comments in tech-preview framework https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/839880 | 18:23 |
| rosmaita | just saw this ... I think we should be Pythonic and write the new release model as: ('tick', 'tock') ... as far as I know, no one has trademarked a tuple | 18:46 |
| fungi | re.match('t[io]ck') | 18:48 |
| fungi | er, i should have used re.compile() | 18:50 |
| rosmaita | :) | 18:50 |
| dansmith | rosmaita: tuple implies ordering so maybe set notation? {'tick', 'tock'} | 19:36 |
| rosmaita | oh, i thought we did want ordering | 19:37 |
| dansmith | relative but not absolute ordering | 19:50 |
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